Tinearity, a Bone Conduction Based White Noise Generator for Tinnitus Relief — Reviews?

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by Chinmoku, Apr 1, 2021.

    1. Chinmoku

      Chinmoku Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Started with a cold, possibly worsened by medication/noise
      One of my well meaning friends who is not well informed on tinnitus sent me information on a device from Sweden, from a company called Tinearity. I went to their page for a quick check.

      It looks like a small disc-shaped white noise generator to be placed behind the ear and working by bone conduction. It was developed by a company started by a tinnitus sufferer.

      The page claims it can be used to practice TRT.

      I know TRT seems to work for some people but is not regarded well here, given also a study showing lack of benefits, but any other thoughts on this device? For example, is there any particular advantage in the bone conduction feature?

      It seems it is under development and is not available yet?

      The page on their website about tinnitus treatments is not very encouraging: ACT, CBT, TRT, masking and physiotherapy.

      Notice also that this initiative seems to be strongly related to an earlier company called Cochlearity, that was discussed in this thread (thanks to @erik for the heads up).
       
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    2. buttercake

      buttercake Guest

      I think Tinearity is the device, the company is Duearity AB. I do not know about the bone conduction feature, but it really looks like standard TRT done in a fancy way.
       
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    3. Johan001

      Johan001 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Medication
      Tinearity and Cochlearity seem to be run by the same person Peter Arndt. It looks like the company just got rebranded for some reason.
       
    4. buttercake

      buttercake Guest

      Just FYI (I am personally not going to buy it), this is apparently going live soon, you can now pre-order the device.
       
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    5. HeavyMantra
      Bugridden

      HeavyMantra Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Steadily worsening since 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I do see the advantage of a small bone conduction device, but only for practical reasons: small and discreet (hearing aid type sound enrichers are a hassle to use). Can be used at the same time as earplugs.

      Apart from that, white noise is still just white noise so nothing groundbreaking. Still, I think many people would prefer a bone conduction device to administer said white noise. However hearing aid type sound enrichers can be synced with a smartphone and administer all kinds of noises, nature sounds, wave sounds which is what I prefer to listen to myself.
       
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    6. Nick47

      Nick47 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral/noise
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    7. Ben Winders
      Pensive

      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      I've written about bone conducting headphones, in case you have tinnitus that can be easily masked (like most people with low-frequency buzzing tinnitus). This is basically just that, but maybe a bit more "wearable", especially if you have long hair, I guess.

      With my short hair it will look like my cochlear implant has dropped from its original position (usually sits a bit higher, if I'm not mistaken) :) But, in times of high annoyance, I think masking is still a nice to have, even just the idea of having it "on hand" would be nice.

      No idea why it is so expensive though: 580 EUR for bone conducting headphones seems steep.

      Unless I'm missing something, this does practically the same for 85 bucks, AND is a lot smaller too.

      EDIT: I have sent them an email to ask what warrants the steep price (as compared to the Ludbeat for example, I'm sure there are others). Will let you know when they respond.
       
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    8. Nick47

      Nick47 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral/noise
      @Ben Winders, you don't have a cochlear implant, do ya?
       
    9. Ben Winders
      Pensive

      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      No I don't. English is not my 1st language, sorry if that was confusing.

      I've received a reply from Duearity:
       
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    10. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cracow, Poland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      Ludbeat did not make it to the market because of lack of funding (I donated to their start up).
       
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    11. Ryan Edwards

      Ryan Edwards Member

      Location:
      London, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Looks like they are starting shipping next month and I'm interested in this given that my ear canals are easily irritated. I doubt I could stomach in-ear maskers?
       
    12. Kiwi John

      Kiwi John Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      1989
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Rock Concert
      This link contains a lot more information:

      Duearity to develop AI solution for people suffering from tinnitus
       
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    13. Stayinghopeful
      Procrastinating

      Stayinghopeful Member Benefactor

      Location:
      NSW, Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Worsened with COVID-19 / Anesthesia
      Do you mean the type of tinnitus that is masked by cicadas/crickets etc?
       
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    14. Ben Winders
      Pensive

      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      No - tinnitus that can be masked by cicadas/crickets is not low frequency tinnitus. I need a low humming noise to mask my low frequency tinnitus.
       
    15. momus

      momus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1998
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      antibiotics
      I can't see how that would be possible. Only the person w/ the tinnitus knows what the "correct" white noise would be, or sound like. One can buy small earbuds that loop over your ear and sort of "hang" in mid air, not obstructing hearing. True, the white noise itself would be audible, but that would be preferable to hearing the tinnitus.

      The user can just put a small radio in their pocket and tune it between stations, raising or lowering the volume and changing the pitch at will. Having user control over this is a big deal, it really helped me when I first got tinnitus, and I was still able to hear sounds and conversation very well.
       
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    16. Libertin
      Amazed

      Libertin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Both somatic and house cause
      It is amazing that a company invents a white noise machine in 2023, given the study published in Journal of American Medical Association in 2018 with the conclusion "Sound therapies using unstructured, random ("white") noise should be avoided as a treatment for tinnitus."
       
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    17. Vadimus

      Vadimus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04, 2023
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis, benzo withdrawal, SSRI
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    18. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      Worthless study. No control group. Another money-grab white noise product. Avoid.
       
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    19. Libertin
      Amazed

      Libertin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Both somatic and house cause
      Each participant got a free noise unit for taking part in the "study"!

      The unit is priced around 440 GBP. After one month of use you need to buy adapters at a monthly cost of 30 GBP.
       
    20. Earman

      Earman Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      They just started up their organization in the US.

      Americans, do you believe in this product and will you buy Tinearity's white noise treatment (8 hours per day for years)?
       
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    21. SarahMLFlemmer

      SarahMLFlemmer Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Central California
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/20/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Accutane (withdrawl)
      Probably not, no. I can get white noise on my phone if I really need it.
       
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    22. Earman

      Earman Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      Sorry, I have to make a clarification to the above post, according to Duearity's website, the treatment is 6-8 hours per day for 6-24 months.

      The product recently received FDA approval.
       
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    23. Earman

      Earman Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      Do we have any US reviews of Tinearity yet? The product has been on the US market for a few months now, has anyone here tried it?
       
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    24. SarahMLFlemmer

      SarahMLFlemmer Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Central California
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/20/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Accutane (withdrawl)
      It must only be available in a few clinics. I haven't tried or heard anything about it here in California, yet.

      It looks to me like some kind of sound therapy.
       
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    25. Earman

      Earman Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      According to their website, the product is available at clinics in the California area.
       
    26. SarahMLFlemmer

      SarahMLFlemmer Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Central California
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/20/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Accutane (withdrawl)
      I'm not so sure Tinearity is what I'm looking for.
       
    27. Earman

      Earman Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      Still no one in the US have tried the Tinearity device?
       
    28. Jack_Mac

      Jack_Mac Member

      Location:
      London, United Kingdom
      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      fireworks
      I have tried Tinearity and it did nothing more to my tinnitus than my children does when they scream on Sunday mornings.
       
    29. Jammer

      Jammer Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      Did you have to buy it to try it?
       
    30. Jack_Mac

      Jack_Mac Member

      Location:
      London, United Kingdom
      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      fireworks
      Nope, I was lucky this time. I tried it for 3 weeks and I only had to pay the doctor.
       
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