What Earplugs Should I Use?

orbiter12

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Mar 22, 2017
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18/03/17
Cause of Tinnitus
Loud club
Can anyone recommend some very good earplugs with the most noise reduction for in loud environments such as the gym or a pub, I've been using foam 32 dB ones. Is there anything better?

Also is there anything I can buy to use in a restaurant with my girlfriend where I can still kinda hear her but have protection from the other noise (they're pointless if they won't block out the other noises)

Don't want to spend £200 on customs but I could spend £30 for each pair?
 
@orbiter12 You need to treat the cause of your sensitivity to sound and not the symptom. If your current earplugs aren't good enough, you need to be referred to ENT for tests and treatment with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist trained in tinnitus management and hyperacusis. Please click on the link below and read my post: Hyperacusis, As I see it.

All the best
Michael

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-a-personal-view.18668/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/hyperacusis-as-i-see-it.19174/
 
Nothing will give you higher protection rating than foam earplugs.

For loud things I can recommend Alpine MusicSafe Pro. Highest filter has 18dB rating.

For loudish stuff - Alpine Party plug is worth considering.
 
@orbiter12 You need to treat the cause of your sensitivity to sound and not the symptom. If your current earplugs aren't good enough, you need to be referred to ENT for tests and treatment with a Hearing Therapist or Audiologist trained in tinnitus management and hyperacusis. Please click on the link below and read my post: Hyperacusis, As I see it.

All the best
Michael

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-a-personal-view.18668/

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/hyperacusis-as-i-see-it.19174/

Ive been to an ENT privately and had a hearing test and my hearing was fine with no hearing loss. Im now waiting for for an NHS referral.

My foam earplug are good enough in terms of noise reduction but im looking for a silicone more expensive pair that offer the same protection.

Likewise i also wanted a pair i could wear in quiter areas so could hear my girmfriend more
 
Nothing will give you higher protection rating than foam earplugs.

For loud things I can recommend Alpine MusicSafe Pro. Highest filter has 18dB rating.

For loudish stuff - Alpine Party plug is worth considering.
Is 18db enough? I was looking for the 32-37db for loud place's. Unsure what id need for restaurants etc
 
Is 18db enough? I was looking for the 32-37db for loud place's. Unsure what id need for restaurants etc

You have H, don't you?

I wear 16dB for 75-85dB and 18dB above that.

There is not such a thing as earplugs with more than 33dB reduction. Unfortunately.
 
Nothing will give you higher protection rating than foam earplugs.

For loud things I can recommend Alpine MusicSafe Pro. Highest filter has 18dB rating.

For loudish stuff - Alpine Party plug is worth considering.

Did you make the cut to the plug? Is it the party plug or the musician safe pro your using?
 
You have H, don't you?

I wear 16dB for 75-85dB and 18dB above that.

There is not such a thing as earplugs with more than 33d

Very mild H. The reason for wearing plugs is because ive been victim to random noises that have made my T go from barely noticeable to always noticeable and no H to mild H e.g car horn less than 1m away car alarms police siren construction site's train horns etc.

Instead of living in fear i just wear plugs on my daily commute for an hour a day to stop my t and h getting worse. Atm im using 32db foam plugs and wanted a bettere quality silicon equivalent.

Then j also wanted some that i can wear in not so loud places like a pub or restaurant but still be protected
 
My foam earplug are good enough in terms of noise reduction but im looking for a silicone more expensive pair that offer the same protection.

In my opinion @orbiter12 you are not doing the right thing by using foam earplugs or any type for that matter (unless in noisy surroundings ) but foam plugs are worse. I spoke with someone yesterday who is a regular visitor at Tinnitustalk and his tinnitus and hyperaucusis have become worse since using foam earplugs, or rather using them too often. It has made his auditory system hypersensitive. The person that contacted me today is also a regular visitor and her ears have become over sensitive due to earplug use. The choice is yours but I advise you to read my two articles again.
Best of luck
Michael
 
In my opinion @orbiter12 you are not doing the right thing by using foam earplugs or any type for that matter (unless in noisy surroundings ) but foam plugs are worse. I spoke with someone yesterday who is a regular visitor at Tinnitustalk and his tinnitus and hyperaucusis have become worse since using foam earplugs, or rather using them too often. It has made his auditory system hypersensitive. The person that contacted me today is also a regular visitor and her ears have become over sensitive due to earplug use. The choice is yours but I advise you to read my two articles again.
Best of luck
Michael
Please read my previous response to @maltese. Im using plug to preven my t getting worse on my daily commute and then looking for a pair to wear in restaurants pub's bars etc. Ill read the post you linked thankyou
 
Please read my previous response to @maltese. Im using plug to preven my t getting worse on my daily commute and then looking for a pair to wear in restaurants pub's bars etc. Ill read the post you linked thankyou

I still do not agree with what you want to do @orbiter12 as you are suppressing normal everyday sounds. Start using a sound machine at night to help desensitize your auditory system, and allow your ears to get used to normal everyday sounds. Earplugs are not the answer. However, if your ears are in pain when commuting use them on the train but take those earplugs out as soon as possible is my advice, as you are doing more harm than good.
Michael
 
I still do not agree with what you want to do @orbiter12 as you are suppressing normal everyday sounds. Start using a sound machine at night to help desensitize your auditory system, and allow your ears to get used to normal everyday sounds. Earplugs are not the answer. However, if your ears are in pain when commuting use them on the train but take those earplugs our as soon as possible as you are doing more harm than good.
Michael

Im ok with the actual sound it doesnt cause any pain its just i feel that there's are too many risky situations where I could be exposed to dangeous sounds so i wear them out of fear rather than because every day sounds hurt my ear. Apart from in loud places and on my commute i never wead plugs. I wanted a more expensive pair just to wear in the place's above not to protect aganst everyday sound's so to speak
 
I still do not agree with what you want to do @orbiter12 as you are suppressing normal everyday sounds. Start using a sound machine at night to help desensitize your auditory system, and allow your ears to get used to normal everyday sounds. Earplugs are not the answer. However, if your ears are in pain when commuting use them on the train but take those earplugs out as soon as possible is my advice, as you are doing more harm than good.
Michael

@orbiter12
I agree with you using earplugs. Without them my t also get worse. Michael, on this point I disagree with you
 
I agree with you using earplugs. Without them my t also get worse. Michael, on this point I disagree with you
Everyone is entitled to their opinion @MJv but as @orbiter12 says he's wearing the earplugs mostly out of fear of making his tinnitus worse. If you have corresponded with the amount of people I have that have made their auditory system hypersensitive, tinnitus and hyperacusis worse because of Earplugs being used incorrectly, you might change your opinion.

I wish you well.
Michael
 
Im ok with the actual sound it doesnt cause any pain its just i feel that there's are too many risky situations where I could be exposed to dangeous sounds so i wear them out of fear rather than because every day sounds hurt my ear. Apart from in loud places and on my commute i never wead plugs. I wanted a more expensive pair just to wear in the place's above not to protect aganst everyday sound's so to speak
Everyone is entitled to their opinion @MJv but as @orbiter12 says he's wearing the earplugs mostly out of fear of making his tinnitus worse. If you have corresponded with the amount of people I have that have made their auditory system hypersensitive, tinnitus and hyperacusis worse because of Earplugs being used incorrectly, you might change your opinion.

I wish you well.
Michael

Your opinions are obviously backed by experience so i greatly respect them. Could you please explain how wearing plugs for an hour a day or 2 is worse than not wearing them and grtting blasted with a 100db siren or car horn that causes a permanent spike and increaded H (happened 3 or 4 times which is why im taking the plug route) Cheers
 
Well, my own experience and that of other people is that noise can make t worse.
So, it isn't because you are affraid that you were earplugs, it's because you want to protect your hyper sensitive auditive system.
There is no right or wrong in this. Even the specialist do not know if you should protect your ears or not.
For me, I protect because I feel the t is getting worse with just little sounds
 
Please read my previous response to @maltese. Im using plug to preven my t getting worse on my daily commute and then looking for a pair to wear in restaurants pub's bars etc. Ill read the post you linked thankyou

Okay listen.

You absolutely should wear earplugs when visiting a bar/any other loud place.

But you have to limit your earplugs usage. @Michael Leigh is right about that.

I also understand why you do it, I had pretty bad H and I would only leave the house with earmuffs (and only if I really had to leave the house ).

I had tremendous improvements since I stopped overprotecting.

Edit: also, don't go cold turkey. If you use earplugs that much you have to tamper down slowly.
 
Youre opinions are obviously backed by experience so i greatly respect them. Could you please explain how wearing plugs for an hour a day or 2 is worse than not wearing them and grtting blast with a 100db siren or car horn. Cheers

Thank you for your kind comments @orbiter12 Please read the post below and I believe will give you the full picture on how detrimental earplugs can be to one's auditory system when used incorrectly and such a person has tinnitus and hyperacusis. There is really nothing more I can say on this.

Hyperacusis, As I See It.

Some members have asked for my opinion on hyperacusis as they are finding it increasingly difficult to live with. They want to know if there is a way of treating this condition so that their life can become a little easier? Or whether it can be completely cured? For a few it has become so distressing they have decided to only leave their homes when it's absolutely necessary. This is because of the fear of making the symptoms worse, by subjecting their ears to the hustle and bustle of everyday road traffic noise and other environmental sounds that we are all familiar with.

Reading some of the posts in this forum, one can easily see that certain people daren't leave their homes without first checking they have their earmuffs and an assortment of earplugs in various degrees of attenuation, in readiness for any potential environment that they happen to find themselves in. The cinema, nightclub, restaurant, or on public transport. If money is no object aspiring to custom made moulded earplugs for some is the way to go. It can bring the added assurance they will be getting the best hearing protection. Whether this is true or not doesn't really matter because it's what the person believes and this helps to give them that peace of mind which is something many of us strive for at one time or another.

The above may seem a little extreme until I tell you one member provoked a lot of discussion here, when he mentioned having the air bag in a car that he had just purchased disabled in case it was deployed in an accident. I suppose the thought of 170 decibels raining down on his auditory system and the possibility of his tinnitus and hyperacusis shooting through the roof was too much too bear and is more important than a potential life saving device. As strange as this might seem, others have discussed doing the same thing elsewhere on the Internet.

I am not an expert in this field but do have the experience of living with very severe hyperacusis that was brought on with the onset of my tinnitus twenty years ago due to loud noise exposure. It was so severe; conversation with someone at times caused immense pain. However, it was completely cured in two years with TRT and having counselling with a hearing therapist. I wore white noise generators for 10hrs a day and used a sound machine throughout the night until morning for sound enrichment. My tinnitus had reduced to a very low level.

Some people believe hyperacusis cannot be cured and if treatment such as TRT works then it merely suppresses the condition. In the event of future loud noise exposure it will return and the condition will be worse than before. I believe it's up to the individual to take care of their hearing and not subject themselves to loud noise exposure. However, accidents do happen as in my case. I have previously explained in this forum that my tinnitus increased to very severe levels in 2008 due to noise exposure so won't go over it again. To my surprise the hyperacusis did not return and has remained the same till this day, completely silent.

This summer I went onto the Brighton Pier and into the arcade. The place was a hive of activity and many people were using the slot machines. Music was playing and mixed with loud laughter so everyone seemed to be having a good time. I had my sound level meter and also a sound App on my mobile phone. Just in case things got too uncomfortable I had my noise reducing earplugs with me that reduce sound levels by 18 decibels. This was a test and not something I normally do or recommend anyone else to try.

The sound level in that place remained constant at just over 100 decibels. My ears didn't feel uncomfortable and I felt no pain. I stayed at the venue for 30 minutes and then left.

The next morning my tinnitus was silent and I experienced no symptoms of hyperacusis. I do not believe that it is a good idea for someone with tinnitus or hyperacusis (or both) to wear earplugs or noise-reducing earplugs with filters too often, because it's possible for the auditory system to become hypersensitive. In some cases it could make matters worse and cause a condition called phonophobia. This is literally having a fear of sound.

I used to counsel someone that had phonophobia like symptoms although she wasn't diagnosed. This person had hypercausis that gradually got worse and at every opportunity she kept away from sound. This got so bad going out the front door because of the noise was a problem. Her ears couldn't tolerate the sound of the microwave, dishwasher or the washing machine. She even complained of the sound of rain falling on her conservatory roof that was made of glass. Fortunately she has improved.

There is much discussion on this in the medical field from experts saying that the overuse of hearing protection isn't good and therefore discouraged as it will lower loudness threshold and I completely agree with this. I think if one isn't careful they can become paranoid over sound making their hyperacusis and tinnitus worse and I don't think it's healthy.

I believe the answer is to seek proper treatment. If TRT is unavailable then start using a sound machine by the bedside at night for sound enrichment. This usually helps to desensitise the auditory system. Try going out for long walks and getting used to everyday sounds instead of keeping away from them by staying at home. I don't normally recommend anyone to use white noise generators unless they are under the care of a hearing therapist. However, if your tinnitus is under control and you have habituated but experience hyperacusis, that some call: Reactive tinnitus. Then white noise generators could be the way to go. Two should be used to keep the auditory system in balance and set the volume level low, preferably below the tinnitus. This will help to desensitise the auditory system and treat the hypercusis.

Hearing protection is important and does have its place. If I am going to venues where I believe noise level could become loud then I have my earplugs with me. Night clubs, parties etc. I would always use them at the cinema although I haven't been to one in years. Reading some of the posts on this forum people say those places can be very loud.

When I use my petrol lawn mower or electric power tools for those DIY jobs around the home, I always use my ear defenders. I want to live life and enjoy it. Not to be living in fear of hearing a fire truck or ambulance siren coming towards me and I have to panic and quickly insert earplugs or reach for earmuffs to protect my hearing. I just think this is overkill.

Michael
 
I dont think im over protecting at all!

So if somebody could point me in the direction of plugs suitable for loud environments such as a club that arent foam then some for a restaurant as well please
 
Thank you for your kind comments @orbiter12 Please read the post below and I believe will give you the full picture on how detrimental earplugs can be to one's auditory system when used incorrectly and such a person has tinnitus and hyperacusis. There is really nothing more I can say on this.

Hyperacusis, As I See It.

Some members have asked for my opinion on hyperacusis as they are finding it increasingly difficult to live with. They want to know if there is a way of treating this condition so that their life can become a little easier? Or whether it can be completely cured? For a few it has become so distressing they have decided to only leave their homes when it's absolutely necessary. This is because of the fear of making the symptoms worse, by subjecting their ears to the hustle and bustle of everyday road traffic noise and other environmental sounds that we are all familiar with.

Reading some of the posts in this forum, one can easily see that certain people daren't leave their homes without first checking they have their earmuffs and an assortment of earplugs in various degrees of attenuation, in readiness for any potential environment that they happen to find themselves in. The cinema, nightclub, restaurant, or on public transport. If money is no object aspiring to custom made moulded earplugs for some is the way to go. It can bring the added assurance they will be getting the best hearing protection. Whether this is true or not doesn't really matter because it's what the person believes and this helps to give them that peace of mind which is something many of us strive for at one time or another.

The above may seem a little extreme until I tell you one member provoked a lot of discussion here, when he mentioned having the air bag in a car that he had just purchased disabled in case it was deployed in an accident. I suppose the thought of 170 decibels raining down on his auditory system and the possibility of his tinnitus and hyperacusis shooting through the roof was too much too bear and is more important than a potential life saving device. As strange as this might seem, others have discussed doing the same thing elsewhere on the Internet.

I am not an expert in this field but do have the experience of living with very severe hyperacusis that was brought on with the onset of my tinnitus twenty years ago due to loud noise exposure. It was so severe; conversation with someone at times caused immense pain. However, it was completely cured in two years with TRT and having counselling with a hearing therapist. I wore white noise generators for 10hrs a day and used a sound machine throughout the night until morning for sound enrichment. My tinnitus had reduced to a very low level.

Some people believe hyperacusis cannot be cured and if treatment such as TRT works then it merely suppresses the condition. In the event of future loud noise exposure it will return and the condition will be worse than before. I believe it's up to the individual to take care of their hearing and not subject themselves to loud noise exposure. However, accidents do happen as in my case. I have previously explained in this forum that my tinnitus increased to very severe levels in 2008 due to noise exposure so won't go over it again. To my surprise the hyperacusis did not return and has remained the same till this day, completely silent.

This summer I went onto the Brighton Pier and into the arcade. The place was a hive of activity and many people were using the slot machines. Music was playing and mixed with loud laughter so everyone seemed to be having a good time. I had my sound level meter and also a sound App on my mobile phone. Just in case things got too uncomfortable I had my noise reducing earplugs with me that reduce sound levels by 18 decibels. This was a test and not something I normally do or recommend anyone else to try.

The sound level in that place remained constant at just over 100 decibels. My ears didn't feel uncomfortable and I felt no pain. I stayed at the venue for 30 minutes and then left.

The next morning my tinnitus was silent and I experienced no symptoms of hyperacusis. I do not believe that it is a good idea for someone with tinnitus or hyperacusis (or both) to wear earplugs or noise-reducing earplugs with filters too often, because it's possible for the auditory system to become hypersensitive. In some cases it could make matters worse and cause a condition called phonophobia. This is literally having a fear of sound.

I used to counsel someone that had phonophobia like symptoms although she wasn't diagnosed. This person had hypercausis that gradually got worse and at every opportunity she kept away from sound. This got so bad going out the front door because of the noise was a problem. Her ears couldn't tolerate the sound of the microwave, dishwasher or the washing machine. She even complained of the sound of rain falling on her conservatory roof that was made of glass. Fortunately she has improved.

There is much discussion on this in the medical field from experts saying that the overuse of hearing protection isn't good and therefore discouraged as it will lower loudness threshold and I completely agree with this. I think if one isn't careful they can become paranoid over sound making their hyperacusis and tinnitus worse and I don't think it's healthy.

I believe the answer is to seek proper treatment. If TRT is unavailable then start using a sound machine by the bedside at night for sound enrichment. This usually helps to desensitise the auditory system. Try going out for long walks and getting used to everyday sounds instead of keeping away from them by staying at home. I don't normally recommend anyone to use white noise generators unless they are under the care of a hearing therapist. However, if your tinnitus is under control and you have habituated but experience hyperacusis, that some call: Reactive tinnitus. Then white noise generators could be the way to go. Two should be used to keep the auditory system in balance and set the volume level low, preferably below the tinnitus. This will help to desensitise the auditory system and treat the hypercusis.

Hearing protection is important and does have its place. If I am going to venues where I believe noise level could become loud then I have my earplugs with me. Night clubs, parties etc. I would always use them at the cinema although I haven't been to one in years. Reading some of the posts on this forum people say those places can be very loud.

When I use my petrol lawn mower or electric power tools for those DIY jobs around the home, I always use my ear defenders. I want to live life and enjoy it. Not to be living in fear of hearing a fire truck or ambulance siren coming towards me and I have to panic and quickly insert earplugs or reach for earmuffs to protect my hearing. I just think this is overkill.

Michael
Thanks michael i will read this when i get off work. I Will try to limit my earplug use but i think i will carry on using them for my commute has i have been subject to multiple setbacks and spikes from not wearing them
 
I had worsening t because exposing to loud noises without protection.
And also t worsening with protection. My system is hyper sensitive :(
 
Thanks michael i will read this when i get off work. I Will try to limit my earplug use but i think i will carry on using them for my commute has i have been subject to multiple setbacks and spikes from not wearing them

@orbiter12 If you would like it sent to you in PDF form just give me an email address in PM.
 
I had worsening t because exposing to loud noises without protection.
And also t worsening with protection. My system is hyper sensitive

If external sound is loud enough the best earplugs in the world will not protect a person's tinnitus from becoming worse, due to bone conduction. This is when sound can reach the inner ear through the skull and particularly through the mastoid bone behind the ear. Even when wearing earplugs at a club for instance, a person still has to be careful of loud sounds.
 

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