Kam75

Kam75

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  • Kam75
    I want to die, my tinnitus has only gotten worse over the past six years.
    Now I hear something like the sound of a vacuum cleaner, and my other sounds are more intense (high-pitched sounds, electrical sounds, the sound of a dental drill, Morse code, the sound of pipes). I can't sleep at all :(
    I live locked up in my home, I don't know what is causing this worsening. Could it be the Mirtazapine?
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    Luman
    I do not know the answer to that question, but perhaps the Mirtazapone negatively affects your mind's ability to deal with the tinnitus.
    Kam75
    I've been taking Mirtazapine for sleep for 4 years now. The 2 first years my sleep was not so bad. So I started to resume a social life 2 years ago but my tinnitus worsen dramatically. I haven't been to any party or loud place for more than one year and a half (and I will never go back to any party aymore). But my tinnitus keeps worsening. So it's hard for me to say if it is really Mirtazapine or Alimemazine or Quetiapine that make it worse... Life is so complicated with this damn disease :(
    adpolandam
    hold on tight my friend
    ellees
    hello, i read on your profile that part of your tinnitus was caused by ototoxicity, and i was wondering which medication made it worse? And i was also wondering if antidepressants worsen your tinnitus? which medication do you take and which have you previously tried, and what kind of effect do they have on your tinnitus? thanks!
    Kam75
    Naproxen made my tinnitus worse. My ENT specialist confirmed afterwards that it was indeed an ototoxic anti-inflammatory.
    I started with Amitriptyline and have now been on Mirtazapine for 4 years.
    Neither of the 2 antidepressants made my tinnitus worse.
    Going to music evenings has made it much worse.
    ellees
    so it was the naproxen that gave you tinnitus?

    did you start the amiptriptyline before or after getting tinnitus? (what was and are your doses for these meds?)

    why did you switch to mirtazapine?
    Kam75
    Naproxen made my tinnitus worse. You can find my whole story here.
    I swiched to Mirtazapine because Amitriptyline no longer worked. Now Mirtazapine no longer works because 2 years ago I resumed a social life and exposed myself to music.
    J
    Hi Kam75, I'm shocking ignorant about computers. I think you added a lot to the dialogue with JoeCync... could you explain to me what "following you" means?
    Sorry that I'm so ignorant.
    Vive la France
    joeseph Stope
    Kam75
    Hi Joeseph Stope! To be honest, I'm not exactly sure what following someone on Tinnitus Talk means in practical terms either 😅 I think it's just a way of quickly finding a forumer you've had an interesting interaction with.
    I also appreciated what you've said in Tom Cnyc thread that's why I followed you.
    Best wishes!
    Marcello
    Hello Kam, how's going? Marcello here from Brazil. I've read your story in some posts and I've been facing some situations very similar, I went from mild tinnitus to the point of can't get asleep naturally at the moment. How is your sleep today? What medications do you use? I've trying some combination of them to get the best benefit to the sleep. It would be nice to be able to talk about it and exchange some tips.
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    L
    @Kam75 maybe updose really slow? Dont know where you live but there might be liquid version. Then theres always the possibility to file and weight a pill
    N
    Hi @Kam75 ! I know we never interacted before, but I'm writing because I'm about to switch from Duloxetine (been taking it for 4 months) to Venlafaxine. Both are SNRIs (not SSRIs). My psychiatrist was very cautious about SSRIs as it's known they can worsen T, but considers SNRIs to be rather safe for tinnitus sufferers. Bon courage pour tout.
    Kam75
    Hi @Nocca, as I said in my thread in which you have commented, I'm going to ask my psychiatrist to add Duloxetine to my current treatment (Mirtazapine) :) My appoitment with him is in July. Best wishes to you too.
    slc
    Hello Kam, Stephen here, I'm in Paris until I leave on Wednesday. Let me know if you would like a visit. It's probably possible Sunday, Monday or Tuesday..

    Take care,
    Stephan
    Yosemite
    I've just read your latest post in Susan's thread.

    Could it be that reducing the Mirtazapine dosage contributed negatively and brought back your symptoms? Otherwise, what could be the reasons?
    Kam75
    Hi @Yosemite ! Thank you for your message.

    I reduced the Mirtazapine at the beginning of January 2024 (I went from 22.5 mg to 15 mg).
    My condition was "stable" until early March.
    I think that if Mirtazapine was involved in the deterioration of my sleep, I would have felt the effects after about 3 weeks?
    I don't really know, but if I were to go back to 22.5 mg, it would be a kind of defeat for me.
    Yosemite
    @Kam75

    I understand why upping the dosage back to 22.5 mg would be seen as a "defeat" as it would probably mean that your sleep / T is dependent on Mirtazapine. It is definitely a dilemma. :-|
    4Grace
    The way you describe your Tinnitus below is how I could describe mine. Does food impact you? Spikes from sound? Is Hearing protection possible for you? Mine sends T through the roof.
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    Kam75
    I take 22.5 mg of mirtazapine every night to help me sleep. Up until 1 year ago I was taking the maximum dose (45 mg).

    Tinnitus can really improve, but it can take a long time (it took me almost 5 years).

    Stay strong, I'm sure it will get better one day. And don't hang around this forum too much either, because there's a lot of negativity there, and that doesn't help you get better.
    Kam75
    My condition has improved over the last few months, I sleep better, my tinnitus is less intrusive and thanks to that I've even resumed a social life little by little.
    4Grace
    That's good news. So happy for you. I'm the negative on this forum. :( I have Nox and reactive T. I have some hope but cant see it getting better. It's an 11/10 and my ears hurt at the smallest of sounds.
    4Grace
    Hey Kam75, hope you are well. You had mentioned in one of your posts that your T is really bad. Unfortunately I am in that club. I wonder how you manage each day.
    yeezysqueezy
    Hi there.I saw your post about naproxen worsening your tinnitus. I took 5 days of naproxen in January for an ankle issue and my tinnitus has gone crazy and I've developed pain hyperacusis. How are you doing now? I hope you've seen some improvement. I could never have imagined the damage we could do with a few days of naproxen.
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    Kam75
    It's exactly the same for me, I blamed myself to death for having taken this medication, I cried every night. But there is a time when you are resigned and no longer hopeful that it will get better...
    Fortunately I don't have the feeling that it made my hyperacusis worse.
    yeezysqueezy
    I'm glad to hear it didn't make your H worse. I'm really hoping mine improves. I am holding onto hope that by the end of this decade we may have some definitive treatment to actually reverse the damage
    Kam75
    I am very hopeful that Shore's device will help us. It is currently the most promising treatment. From what I read on Tinnitus Talk it is probably the only option for us in the near future.
    There is the Ebselen molecule too, but years of testing still need to be done.
    Biaxca
    Hey, hope Ur well. I wanted to ask have u been able to take anything that helps Ur T ? Personally I'm new to this and extremely desperate
    Kam75
    Hi @Biaxca! To be very honest with you, there is unfortunately no medication on the market today that can even alleviate tinnitus.
    At the time there was Tobalt, but it was withdrawn from the market because of its serious side effects.
    Kam75
    I am currently on Mirtazapine, an antidepressant that helps me sleep a little, but not completely.
    If your tinnitus is recent, it may very well get better or even disappear. Don't give up hope! Shore's device should be on the market in the next year or two and that might help.
    KoolKat
    we were barely out of high school when this tragedy hit us smh i just cant get over
    the "What ifs" and the unknown future of this unpredictable torturous condition.
    so many opportunities squandered cause of this smh. lets hope that this is the last decade we ever have to deal with this, and that treatment is on the way cause im ready to live LIFE
    Kam75
    Hi @KoolKat, thanks for your message.

    When I had my first tinnitus in 2014, it was so mild that I was able to live completely normally.
    It was the sound trauma I had 2019 (so at the age of 28) that propelled me into the Abyss of hell.

    Since this trauma I have at least 3 more sounds in my head (so 4 sounds in total).
    I have a very high-pitched sound, a dental drill sound and an electric sound.
    Kam75
    I have also developed hyperacusis.

    I also feel, like you, that I have wasted my best years.
    I've been single for 6 months and don't know how to find a woman because all the places to meet are noisy.
    On top of that I can't sleep, even with 45 mg of Mirtazapine + melatonin... These damn sounds wake me up all the time.
    Kam75
    I can't help but feel very pessimistic when I see that all potential treatments for tinnitus have failed.
    And even if something does work, if it does, we'll probably be too old to enjoy life.

    Best regards, and thanks again for your message. It is always good to be able to talk to someone that can undestrand you.
    KoolKat
    despite living in different countries we got alot of similarities. who would of thought 2013 was our last year of normal living. i feel our full potential was never achieved. I had so much to look forward to in 2014, n WE both were in our young early-20s. such a shame our years were wasted dealing with this. I pray for our sakes susan or someone comes through for us.
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