Acoustic Shock/Trauma — Help!

Discussion in 'Support' started by COYS, Mar 6, 2019.

    1. MSF

      MSF Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Music events/drums
      I've had it for over 5 years now and sadly it doesn't seem to be improving. It's actually gotten worse over the last year due to certain unavoidable sound factors (e.g., baby!). But it goes in cycles, there are days where I forget I have it and other days where you just feel baragged by sound. I used to think that a lot of it was psychological (and it certainly is) and so one should just try to live normally, but I've now realized that less exposure, rather than more, is really the key to healing. Still a lot to learn about this issue!
       
    2. Juan

      Juan Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      It's the dynamic range, the difference between the peak sound and the surrounding sound level, what is killing your ears. That's why it is better to have some background sound to soften the difference with sudden peak sounds. Actually, water gardens are based on this principle, the gentle sound of the water fountains etc
       
    3. Juan

      Juan Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      If I were you I would forget about that, VERY BAD idea.
       
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      AUTHOR
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      Even with hearing protection ? I can’t deal with this if it stops me doing normal things :/
       
    5. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      it's not worth the risk man, especially with the onset of tinnitus and acoustic shock.

      Please don't engage in activities with drills and noisy equipment, let your ears continue to heal.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      @Contrast ive read on some of your posts that your TTTS has gone/subsided now. How is it going for you at the moment and how is your H?

      I’ll avoid those things and focus on the quiet jobs like painting etc
       
    7. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      If you want to know the truth my TTTS from noise went away only like 1-2 months ago, but it was progressively getting better. (less spasms)

      I still notice TTTS when I yawn sometimes, but noise doesn't trigger it.

      I no longer have burning ear pain, I had that for 9 months, the first two months were hell, I had setbacks but I still have this numbness in my jaw and noise (trigeminal nerve irritability) from noise but my ear feels somehow don't feel pain or even fullness anymore.

      That's why I keep saying there are different types of hyperacusis.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      It’s good to know there’s hope that it will go away then! I only notice the fluttering when I have my phone on speakerphone which I think is quite a high frequency. Apart from that it doesn’t flutter it just contracts to sudden noise.

      I don’t have the jaw numbness so I guess I should be grateful for that.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      Hi All,

      Quick update on my situation.

      I have been to my local ENT and had various tests. My hearing is fine up to 8Khz (no dips below 10db) and my ear pressure is within normal levels. My speech in noise results were fine and I can hear up to 15khz when using an app on my phone.

      My pain from noise has lessened and my ears only felt slight discomfort when listening to music for around an hour though a speaker system.

      My Tinnitus seems to be much quieter in the mornings to the point I'm sometimes not sure I can hear it. It starts the day as more of a hiss more than a ring which then slowly becomes louder throughout the day. I don't really notice it at work anymore. Is this a good sign that I might recover from it? It’s been 2 months now and I feel im improving slowly.

      I still have my thump sensation when I hear sudden noises in a quiet setting but think doesn’t seem to cause any pain. On the odd occasion I get some fullness.

      What are the chances that it will continue to improve without treatment?

      Thanks,

      COYS
       
    10. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      There's more to hidden hearing loss then just the human voice range, even in background noise. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

      There needs to be test that play various forms of classic, guitar, music of various genres with high pitch acoustics, birds chirping, chimes in the background. The user will listen to a 8 second clip of clip of music with one of three high notes present. Then he/she will be played three high pitch musical notes and chimes in quiet.

      The user will have to pick the exact high pitch acoustic that they heard in the song, apart from the other too.


      This will show hidden hearing loss, because to them the high acoustics will sound blurry and undistinguishable.
      It could also be the same way for low pitch notes, maybe they have low frequency hearing loss.


      The problem is testing the full range of human hearing would be extremely complex, just like the cochlea. The user wouldn't understand the point of the test being so complicated. For example the louder the volume the blurry hearing perception will get.



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      sources on hidden hearing loss
      http://www.jneurosci.org/content/31/38/13452
      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378595516302507
       
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    11. Juan

      Juan Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      That's like hearing fatigue, it happens to me sometimes. Your ears just get tired. Tinnitus can also react to the sound around, and peaks of noise.

      It seems you are improving, recovering! It does take a lot of time, though.
       
    12. Juan

      Juan Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Several causes
      yeah, the auditory system is complex. I wonder why people start noticing that they hear TV worse when they lose hearing, and human voice still sounds ok and is easier to understand. Or why some days one understands better some voices and other days it is harder to understand. It's a bit shocking..
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      Fingers crossed. I’m starting to sleep better which I think is helping. Just hoping now that my TTTS starts to disappear too!
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      @Tom Cnyc I’ve been reading some of your original posts and how you’ve recovered in time.

      Did your symptoms arise from noise exposure ?

      Thanks
       
    15. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      Yes. Years of mistreating my hearing followed by one INSANELY loud concert as the anvil that broke the camel's back. I'm very cautious around noise now, but do attend concerts regularly.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      @Tom Cnyc did you also have TTTS and fullness/tingling sensations ?

      I’ve have mine 12 weeks and slowly getting more worried it’s with me for good:/

      I’ve been trying to get on with my life as much as possible. Using ear plugs where needed.

      Do you have any H or pain left ?
       
    17. GSC
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      GSC Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Not to cut in. But there's been plenty of people who with these things, they fade away when given enough time. I would say 12 weeks is much too short. Give your ears more time to heal and it can hopefully fade.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      @GSC no worries at all I’m happy to get as much advise as I can:)

      Did you have these fullness and tingling issues too?
       
    19. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I had the tingling, but it's gone. I don't think I ever had fullness though.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      How long did it take to go?

      I luckily have quite mild T so it’s the TTTS and tingling that’s getting to me
       
    21. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I'm coming up on two months this Wednesday, so it's gone. I do have TTTS too though, but that is also fading...
       
    22. Contrast
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      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
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      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      That sucks. Only normies learn to live with TTTS, the spasms can be loud and DO compromise hearing.
       
    23. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      What do you mean by that? Like.. how does it compromise hearing.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      I’d love the tingling sensation to go. It’s utterly random for me.

      My TTTS is usually a single thump to noises
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
    26. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      It ruins the controversation, flow of speech and music because of the noises and spasms the tensor typani and over facial muscles are actually loud at times.

      Don't pretend mindfulness meditation can overcome it.
       
    27. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I wasn't pretending on anything. I just know people spoke on here it does go away.
       
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      Sporty

      COYS Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma/Shock
      I don’t really notice music etc sounding different ? Mine reacts as a thump to percussive noises . Is this not TTTS then?
       
    29. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Mine was like wind blowing out of my left ear and my right side of face would sometimes spasm. It was at times loud. Like early in the mornings it would get loud if I heard certain noises.
       
    30. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I don't get the spasms, but I do get the whooooooooosh wooooooooooosh wooooooosh and I'm like okay. Thanks, ig.
       
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