Back to Silence

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by I who love music, Dec 7, 2014.

    1. Lisa88

      Lisa88 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      It is interesting @I who love music - at 18 months my tinnitus faded with this technique and other techniques to calm and cleanse the central nervous system such as intermittent fasting to detox the gut connection with the brain, relaxation/breath etc.
      For me, with this particular technique, I was sick of hearing it. So in my sentences, I didn't even refer to it, or say the "I hear tinnitus or it" bit.
      When t bothered me, I just said, "I am far too busy for this ***", "I have more important things to do", "I am so done and bored, movin' on now to other stuff.", "There are far more interesting things to listen to". Of course, at the beginning, I didn't believe it, and faked it til I made it, even if I wasn't busy or had more important things to do. Just kept repeating stuff like this, without actually referring to the tinnitus itself. Seems this eventually trained my brain to get bored too of hanging onto it. Now I go long phases of time without hearing it. And even times when I try to, and it is not there.
      And I am a highly anxious musician - meticulously measuring and playing with sound is what I do. At the beginning, I didn't think it was possible for someone like me to do this technique. But through faking it and repetition, it has somehow worked. I am now fully creating and working with music again.

      Faking indifference, then indifference itself, was key for me.
      Sometimes I imagine what the results would have been if I started this technique even earlier. But doesn't matter. Whether acute or chronic, this technique has shown that it really can work. :)
       
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    2. David Ho

      David Ho Member Benefactor

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2015
      Hi @Lisa88 do you verbalize the sentences?
       
    3. Drecul
      Balanced

      Drecul Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2012
      There is a saying if you repeat a lie often enough people start believing it.

      This statement is very true. Our sub-conscious mind has critical factor which is very hard to bypass. However repeating something over an over again will eventually bypass that critical factor and land into the sub-conscious mind.
      Once it is there and accepted amazing things can happen.

      One way to speed up this process is hypnosis, which is basically bypassing the critical factor by means of putting someone in a trance state after which they are open to positive suggestions.

      Other methods involve EFT, EMDR and NLP. These methods will remove previously accepted truths (mostly negative emotions attached to occurrences in your life) to make way for new accepted truths.
       
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    4. Lisa88

      Lisa88 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Yes, I would say these lines out loud. And sometimes as time went on, just think them. I know it's crazy to fool your own brain. But it works. In many of our cases, the brain just needs to be trained back away.
       
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    5. AUTHOR
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      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      @Lisa88

      I'm SO glad for you!!!!!!!! Doesn't it feel great??
      I'm a "highly anxious musician" too. Kinda nutty and obsessive actually. I'm happy being that way, the music is better for it.
       
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    6. Falconfox
      Paranoid

      Falconfox Member

      Location:
      Oregon
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/01/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wish I knew, possibly nosie damage.
      @I who love music So I've been using this method since I had a mental setback about a week ago and it seemed to help at least a little with my mental state. Recognizing that I was scared or sad, then a few days later I could say I was less scared when I heard it which was of some comfort just recognizing that, then not that scared really. Around that point I felt like I shouldn't even recognize it so I stopped doing it.

      My question is should I still measure my feelings when I hear the tinnitus even when I feel like it's not effecting me much or should I just ignore it?
       
    7. AUTHOR
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      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      I am still doing the method since my tinnitus has greatly subsided. I'm over the fear and anxiety but today if I hear it, I'll say, "I hear it, I'm happy." I'll probably be doing it the rest of my life. My tinnitus is like a bad neighbor and I don't want him coming in the house.
       
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      AUTHOR
      I who love music
      Cheerful

      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      UPDATE:

      I got a phone call from one of the two guys in my town who is doing the BTS method. He was giddy. He said he didn't respond at all yesterday. He said he got up at 6 o'clock today (it's 9:30 now) and he hasn't responded all morning today. I feel so happy for him. I told him this is what happened to me after a few weeks, that by hammering away, something just "happens" and things change. He said he'd keep at it and get back to me.
       
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    9. AUTHOR
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      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      I'm preparing to make a video on exactly how to do the BTS method. It's going to be fun, and helpful.
       
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    10. Phil-O

      Phil-O Member

      Location:
      Lancashire UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2015
      @I who love music
      That would be very useful. I am following the method but keep falling into the bad habit of listening to the sound!
       
    11. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      I who love music
      Cheerful

      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      Keep up the good work.
      You know what to do when you catch yourself listening to it. It gets easier.
       
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    12. Hunszi
      Alone

      Hunszi Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2007 (worsening in 2015)
      The scientific proof behind this, well not exactly for this method, but the core is the same. Watch the full video, but the important part is at 1:30.

      The Scientific Power of Thought
       
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    13. Kah Povi

      Kah Povi Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Mexico
      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Genetics and stress
      This is profound stuff on many levels, but it isn't a quick fix. It's not a pill, and I got into trouble wanting the quick fix pill. After getting off of benzos, I got to a point where I truly realized that my only hope was intensive commitment to my zen practice, which is really just a Japanese delivery system for what this thread is about - awareness. (I'm getting weary of the "mindfulness" trend, but it has been good, as in John Cabot-Zinn's book "Full Catastrophe Living.") Awareness without the stories -- the catastrophizing, self-pitying, and self-scaring stories. Too easily, I default to being a victim of some cosmic, cold cruelty - not helpful, and not even real. There seems to be a notion that without the stories we're zombies, duped into acceptance - that the stories are our clever way of figuring it all out. ("Yeah, I'm a victim of a heartless, perhaps sadistic cosmos - that's what's going on!") Not helpful, and not even real.

      So glad for this thread and for those of us struggling together to get free.
       
    14. AUTHOR
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      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      UPDATE:

      Today was Wild Wednesday. I could do without days like this. A LOT of stress and excitement, of the bad kind.
      BUT, since I started doing the BTS Method, I've been secretly waiting for a bad day like today. I've been curious for a year now how I would respond to my tinnitus on a day like this. Here's the cool thing - No responses today!!!! I did not hear my tinnitus on the most awful of awful days. So still, for me, this method just gets better all the time. Bye bye, tinnitus.
       
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    15. AUTHOR
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      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      "I hear it and I'm feeling anxious"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling happy"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling nervous"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling sad"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling depressed"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling relaxed"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling excited"
      "I hear it and I'm feeling fearful"

      Pick one. Say it to yourself when tinnitus bothers you.

      No more of this -
      "I hear a swooshing sound"
      "Will this ever go away?"
      "It's louder today"
      "It's not as bad today"
      "It's a higher frequency"
      "I wish this would just go away"
      "Maybe there'll be a cure"
      "The darned doctor is no help"

      It looks easy. It takes determination. If you slip up, OK. Keep at it. Keep an estimate of your new responses daily or write down the number of your new proper responses. Stop the old reactions and do the new responses - they will fade with the tinnitus. Over time you'll realize your responses are fading meaning only one thing - you're hearing it less.

      Things you'll need:

      A couple minutes a day.


      How it works:

      I'm only guessing. I'm not a professional
      I think if your need to rid yourself of tinnitus is strong enough, you'll easily find the focus and determination. I believe the new responses somehow hook onto the tinnitus and carry it away to another part of the brain. It works over time, like how to throw a football, or how to golf, or how to dance etc...

      The Big Question:

      "But how can you NOT hear your tinnitus?"
      Answer - I don't know.
       
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    16. Kah Povi

      Kah Povi Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Mexico
      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Genetics and stress
      Yes, this is a slow process, like any fitness training that reshapes the body. As I've said (ad nauseum) my Zen practice is right in line with this, as is some of the newest science about brain plasticity and rewiring the brain, such as Dr. Norman Dodge's books. The latest one has some case studies around chronic pain, which latest studies suggest has the same brain abnormality going on that tinnitus sufferers have:
      https://www.amazon.com/The-Brains-Way-Healing-Neuroplasticity/dp/067002550X/
       
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    17. AUTHOR
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      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
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      My Little Puppy.

      I got this little puppy, he was OK at first. Then he was nipping at my feet and ankles, I didn't like that. As time went on he was actually biting my legs all the time. The little fart. Then soon it seemed like he was running my life, like he owned me. And he barked all the time. I couldn't bring myself to punish him, he was so cute !! So I felt I had to train him somehow. So when he was acting bad and annoying me, I simply ignored him. When that didn't work, I'd just say his name and steer him in the right direction. I'd take him to another part of the house and give him something else to play with. I didn't think he'd get it, being so stubborn and loud. But apparently he's a quick learner. I'm glad I took the time - he doesn't run the show anymore. He's about a year old now and VERY well behaved. We'll go for walks and he's right there with me, and he only barks occasionally.

      Oh, his name is Tinnitus.
       
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    18. squareface
      Balanced

      squareface Member

      Location:
      uk
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      life
      I've tried this a couple of times but at night and the sound has gone way up in pitch, I've described my emotions to myself but still had to lie there listening to the scream of it. It sounds like the sharpness of a laser sometimes. Usually at night as well. Evil thing.
       
    19. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      So, everybody, how's your tinnitus?
      I don't mean the volume or frequency.
      I mean, are your responses to your tinnitus feelings fading away? Even slightly?
       
    20. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2011
      Not yet! Still early days but I'm trying!
       
    21. Falconfox
      Paranoid

      Falconfox Member

      Location:
      Oregon
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/01/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wish I knew, possibly nosie damage.
      I think it might've been helping me but right as things were getting better I slipped back into old habits of describing tinnitus and back down the rabbit hole I go, especially in regards to the past. Stuff like "what did it sound like a week or two ago"? which I know is just dumb. been having a rough patch now but I'm thinking I'm just building it up in my head, gonna try and stick to this. Thought I might put a rubber band around my wrist and snap myself with it when I catch myself describing it.
       
    22. Kuriboh1981
      Terrified

      Kuriboh1981 Member

      Location:
      My own personal Hell
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/01/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection/Slight hearing loss/Who knows at this point?
      Some days are better than others, but it's still early on.
       
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    23. Zug
      Woot

      Zug Member Benefactor

      Hi @I who love music, thanks for asking. Since my relapse by the end of the week I decided I'm not ready to go "full silence" for long periods. I still leave my water fountain on all the time, some white noise to sleep and yesterday night I was feeling tired and used some masking to take the edge off before going the wrong way.

      As you said, it's not a quick pill that you take and your headache goes away. If I compare the two weeks I've been doing this method to the two weeks before that, I think I'm feeling better (my girlfriend agrees). In my case, since my tinnitus is "new" (4 months), sometimes it's hard not to pay attention to the noise itself (ex. yesterday at night I got a different pitch for a while, so I turned on the white noise to keep me from paying attention to it). Also, as I work alone, I don't have the usual noise of an office or something.

      I do feel like I'm getting better at the method. At the beginning it's very hard to break the habit of listening to your tinnitus. Still is, but now that I'm aware of that I try to do something, like watching anything on Netflix to turn my attention away, and if it doesn't work I'll use some masking to take the edge off. I am getting better at catching myself going into the wrong path, so the tinnitus self talk (Oh my god, why me, etc) is getting shorter as now I interrupt myself.

      From reading other success stories, I get a feeling that we shouldn't just wait for habituation, better to try to keep living and take our minds to other places. I actually got some work done yesterday and felt good about it.

      Also, I discovered something that worked great for me, I advise anyone having the same problem to try it: I was doing acupuncture from the start, I guess it helped me in the beginning, but in the last sessions the Dr. would keep asking me about my tinnitus, and after that leaving me in the room with the needles for a while. Since I decided to try the "Back to Silence" method, I figured that talking a lot about my tinnitus and then laying down hearing it wasn't a good idea, so I stopped. I noticed that since the beginning my neck was very stiff, maybe from the anxiety, maybe from the tinnitus itself, who knows. My girlfriend suggested that I took her place at a physical therapist who specializes in massage. Having nothing to loose I went. At the beginning, the therapist was using her elbows on my back, it was "stiff like a rock" in her words. I've been there 4 times already and have been feeling and sleeping better. If you're feeling anxious, have difficult sleeping, or feels the stiffness I've been feeling, please try something like that (it was a lymph draining massage, but I guess any good professional can make you feel better). I started this at the same time I started the Back to Silence technique.

      I'll keep going, thanks a lot for your support.
       
    24. wishingluck
      No Mood

      wishingluck Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      not sure, but probably acoustic trauma
      I may be doing something similar. At first I was thinking about my misfortune all the time, and learning as much as possible about it. Now I only allocate a few minutes a day to learn about it (well I still have many questions), but the rest of the day, I avoid thinking about my misfortune. I try to be absorbed in some activities. Before Igo to sleep, I do a few minutes of intense exercise, to help sleep better.

      It's not all just subjective. Reality is not just subjective. But it's true that the worse you feel about something, the worse you'll feel. This is explained on the American Tinnitus Association website, and the BTA as well. The mind works in really weird ways.

      I also try to tell myself things like 'well it's not a terminal disease, it's just some f****g noise. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Think about whatever makes you feel happier'. I also look at people with worse misfortunes, and feel better about myself. I am not saying I feel happy about them being off worse. No. But it makes me feel a little better about this goddamn problem.

      I am not saying it's easy, it's not. But I really think the first thing to do is to not freak out, and not think of the future. I keep saying that things also can get good or better, not just bad.

      I try to tell myself whatever helps me. I am my own cheerleader. I really need to do that, as I am pretty much completely isolated. I try to be my best friend. I try to feel good about the fact that I am managing well, even if it's not easy.

      So many thoughts, it would take me hours to write them all down.
       
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    25. randomuser

      randomuser Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2013
      Ok, so I'm really trying to apply this method, but no luck for now. It has been a week. I keep checking mine 20-30 times a day, becoming desperate, crying, wanting to kill myself, thinking on ways to kill myself, thinking on how lucky other people is, on how happy other people is, even my family, on how there is no future for me, I can't see past tomorrow, on why I have to suffer so much, what's the point on suffering too much, what's the meaning of life, and this kind of things. And checking my tinnitus again.

      Today I have an annoying and unmaskable hissing that is driving me crazy, I'm at work trying to read a paper but no way, I am totally focused on the noise. I would really give your method a try, don't get me wrong, but I really doubt that it will work with a person with an OCDish personality. Freak of control, I lost the control on my T and my days are dark. And this with a 5/10 hissing in the worst days, the good ones the noise is almost imperceptible, although I make my best efforts to check for it (going to quiet rooms and spending time listening to tinnitus, and keep telling to myself how a disgrace I am).

      I should reinstate Zoloft but I am scared to death to worsen the thing, so I prefer to be miserable than double miserable.

      The tinnitus keeps hissing, goddamnit.

      Sorry for the rant.
       
    26. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      Word Of The Day: "Response"

      How do YOU respond to your tinnitus?
      and
      How would you LIKE to respond to your tinnitus?
       
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    27. Phil-O

      Phil-O Member

      Location:
      Lancashire UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2015
      @I who love music .
      Frequent and downbeat eg sad, fearful. Aiming to be infrequent and upbeat eg happy, calm etc. Keep reading the success stories and following @I who love music 's encouraging advice. It's so easy to forget and start thinking about tinnitus in the wrong way! - the bad obsessive habit.
       
    28. Lou the 14th
      Fine

      Lou the 14th Member

      Location:
      Utah
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Military vehicles, loud music, not using hearing protection
      For I who love music , thanks for the insight. I first noticed my tinnitus when out in the woods about 15 years ago - dead silence all around, and a faint ringing in the ears. I went to an audiologist, who indicated I have a 4000 Hz hearing loss, mostly due to loud music and working on diesel engines in the Military.

      Odd thought that I had after reading all the positive comments on here is that my tinnitus might actually BE a 4000 Hz sound! So, I played a sound test that starts at 10 Hz and goes beyond 10,000 Hz - guess what? My sound is somewhere between 3000 and 4000 Hz...

      Armed with that knowledge, and your insights on positive self-talk, I hope to get mine under control.

      Thanks again!
       
    29. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      Just another update:

      Less negative responses. Feeling positive.

      Thank you!
       
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    30. Phil-O

      Phil-O Member

      Location:
      Lancashire UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2015
      Well done. I'm hoping to get there with the Back to Silence method.

      Best wishes Phil
       

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