Bee Sting Eventually Stopped My Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by Richard Bull, Jul 24, 2017.

    1. Richard Bull

      Richard Bull Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      9/9/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      runs in the family
      I don't recommend doing stupid stuff. That said I have had tinnitus since 2009.

      I was stung by a bee about half an inch in front of the middle ear on the right side.

      It took over 2 weeks for the swelling to go down. I noticed the hearing in my right ear was quieter. I figured it's the swelling so wait it out.

      Then I realized that the ringing has stopped in my right ear. It's been 2 months and no ringing. 7/24/2017.

      PLEASE DO NOT DO THIS. The last time I was stung by a bee 7 years ago it took a week for swelling to go down. Will update if conditions change.
       
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    2. Dutchy
      Not worthy

      Dutchy Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neuronmodulation suggests noise induced?

      Maybe your immune system fighting the toxins has somehow repaired something within the ear?
       
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    3. walkthroughwalls

      walkthroughwalls Member

      Location:
      The Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Dental surgery & NIHL?
      Sounds good! :)



      Do you, by any chance, have any idea where that bee is now? :rolleyes:
       
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    4. Nick07
      Balanced

      Nick07 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      possibly noise or unknown
      Nice! I just wish there was a system in place to figure out why it worked out. There should be enough people who spontaneously recover that it should reasonable to figure out exactly how tinnitus works and how people recover.
       
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    5. Samantha R

      Samantha R Member Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Geelong Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      @walkthroughwalls
      Unfortunately I think bees die once they have stung.... that is if it is a honey bee.
      We might be out of luck trying to track that bee down.
       
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    6. walkthroughwalls

      walkthroughwalls Member

      Location:
      The Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Dental surgery & NIHL?
      Oh right, that's true!

      :(
       
    7. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      There are bee sting facial products - which gather bee venom without killing the bee. I believe they work by stimulating the skin to create collagen - a possible mechanism of action?

      The below is from a quick search, without going into any details:

      From this paper - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897172/ - We found that cochlear neurites grew readily on collagen surfaces and in three-dimensional collagen gels

      From another, unrelated, paper - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4629150/ - The bipolar cochlear spiral ganglion neurons (SGN) carry auditory information from the cochlea to the brain. These neurons, whose organized connections in the cochlea and the brain represent sound frequencies, are essential for preserving normal hearing, but are vulnerable to acoustic insult, toxicity and aging1,2,3,4,5,6. When SGN are damaged or die, hearing impairment or deafness results. Synapses between peripheral nerve fibers of the SGN and the hair cell receptors in the cochlea are the first to degenerate, followed by the retraction of the fiber over various time periods and finally neuronal cell death2,3. After neurite retraction, spontaneous regrowth of peripheral fibers back to the hair cell region of the cochlea is limited. However, the connections to the brain stem retain a generally organized frequency representation even when the peripheral fibers have retracted. Regeneration of the peripheral neurites is a goal in hearing science, but the biochemical pathways that prevent spontaneous neurite regeneration from SGN are largely unknown.

      So.... Maybe you have just found the "unknown" way of neurite regeneration - although it may be a little fast for that to take effect :)

      There is a chance that the collagen has done something for your hearing - or of course it could be a complete coincidence. You say that tinnitus runs in the family, is it through an associated hearing loss or hearing issues or do you not know?
       
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    8. ofaisalo
      Balanced

      ofaisalo Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      I feel it's about protecting your ear from any noise for a while
      that's what swelling does I think
       
    9. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Richard Bull

      Richard Bull Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      9/9/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      runs in the family
      Thanks for the comments. I don't know if this will last or not. It is definitely different only hearing ringing in the left ear. My mom had T about my age my sister was 2007 3 years younger. My sister said hers started after firing a gun. The bee was a wasp that had a bullet nose hive thin in thickness. I have never seen another one shaped like that. My reaction to bee stings are getting worse it seems. My eyes are getting bad and couldn't say what type of bee it was. That sucker hurt .
       
    10. jer

      jer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      This might sound like a stupid question, but ermm. Are you going to try and do the same "treatment" for your other ear?
       
    11. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I doubt this would work for me, but I think there is actually a reasonable chance that it will work on the author's other ear, if there is a chance that this is what helped one of the ears...
       
    12. Jake007

      Jake007 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Nebraska
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss for long time, chainsaw, infections
      Why can't we all get this lucky
       
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    13. Jake007

      Jake007 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Nebraska
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss for long time, chainsaw, infections
      I was wondering how you got t? And how bad was it for your 8 years?
       
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    14. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      I got a bee sting on my cock once, it turned me into a sex god.
       
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    15. DebInAustralia
      Fine

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      30/12/13
      Screenshot_2017-07-27-08-28-47.png Screenshot_2017-07-27-08-28-55.png
       
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    16. ofaisalo
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      ofaisalo Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      can someone do bee's sting studies
      I am ready to give hope on anything
      ready to believe anything !
       
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    17. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      For something like this it will only work for a set of people if it does have a mechanism. The only way you'll ever be able to find a cure that works almost universally (in my opinion) is by targeting the mechanisms in the brain that are involved in creating the phantom noise.
       
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    18. Pleasure_Paulie

      Pleasure_Paulie Member

      Location:
      Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise or maybe... unicorns!
      BRB. Going to go and play with a bee hive..
       
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      Richard Bull

      Richard Bull Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      9/9/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      runs in the family
      Sorry to say the ringing started off softly this morning 7/27/17. Now back to the same ringing as before . I could not find any other articles about bee stings and hearing. For me being stung with the pain and swelling it's not worth it for short term of no ringing . At first onset of T I would have tried anything to get rid of this _ _ _ ringing. I had a doctor's appointment on Monday for other issues. He looked and said no swelling everything looked good . Praying for a cure to stop that _ _ _ ringing
       
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    20. Gus B

      Gus B Member

      Location:
      Katy, Texas
      Tinnitus Since:
      Feburuary 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Have you been to your doctor or ENT since this happened? To see if they would have any idea why this would have helped stop the ringing? Hoping that if any news about any possible cure for this Tinnitus would be great! I just haven't heard of any cure. So any chance of a cure to this damn noise would be...... well I cant put it into words what it would mean. Anyways, congrats on beating half the battle. Who knows, maybe the other ear will heal as well? I really hope it does. Please keep us informed on any updates. Thanks
       
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    21. Ron Robles
      Confused

      Ron Robles Member

      Location:
      Tucson arizona
      Tinnitus Since:
      Sept 4 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure
      So was it killer bee did it have a gun lol , man that would be something else and God sent the bees could a bee sting or anything like that helps us
       
    22. R. Porti

      R. Porti Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe head injury
       
    23. R. Porti

      R. Porti Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe head injury
      Interesting. Any updates.
       
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    24. R. Porti

      R. Porti Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe head injury
    25. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Bronx N.Y.C
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustical trauma
      I'll let a bee sting me and post results but I'll probgably get unlucky and get an ototoxic bee hive.
       
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    26. R. Porti

      R. Porti Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe head injury
      Funny. There are places that you can get an injection on the bee venom.
       
    27. Finnigan
      Stressed

      Finnigan Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Injury maybe
      Likely a result of Melittin > hestimine release which would indicate that your T was initially an inflammatory allergic response to something.
       
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    28. Finnigan
      Stressed

      Finnigan Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Injury maybe

      Agreed to some extent, however, a localized cause/mechanism excludes finding a universal neurological cure. Unfortunately, the mechanism is this patient population is likely many fold.
       

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