Did Invisalign Cause My Tinnitus? I'm Losing Hope

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    1. Ciara1987

      Ciara1987 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Tmj?
      Hi everyone,

      I have been a stalker on Tinnitus Talk for the past few months hoping I would never have to create an account and make this real. At some point at the end of November I developed ringing in my left ear, like a blast of wind that needed to escape. I went to the E.R twice, 2 ENTs, neurologist, physical therapy, acupuncture. I have been doing it all...

      I had Invisalign for the past 2 years. I found myself constantly clenching my jaw and sucking on the braces. The dentist and orthodontist seem to think that is what caused my issue. My neck and jaw muscles being too tight causing my ear to ring. I got a nightguard, am in physical therapy but I don't think anything is helping me. The month of January I was suicidal, unsure of how to deal with this. For the past few weeks I have also been noticing a baseline mmmmmmmm sound in my right ear as well.

      A few days ago I thought I had really turned a corner. I had almost a full day of silence. In the garage ears plugged I had silence, next day slight ringing in the later morning but silence when I woke up. The next day was the same but the past 3 days I am right back to square one. I fear this will only get worse. I feel if this has been going on for MONTHS it will not get better.

      Also - When I burp in my mouth, my right ear THUMPS 4 times. I am TERRIFIED this will become another issue. That it will continue thumping and not stop.

      I appreciate any feedback. I'm a mess :-(
       
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    2. Adaś
      Caffeine

      Adaś Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Headphones, Stress, Rock concerts
      Hi Ciara,

      Many here will tell you that global lows is what matters. If you had almost full day of silence, you have very high chance to recover. This is great. There will be another day like that one, and another. Keep this thought. I know it is hard but stay calm, but try to find some way to relax, or keep yourself busy - distracted from your tinnitus. Don't let anxiety take control.
       
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    3. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      beliefs are makyo and reality ignores them
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      @Ciara1987, don't be scared.

      I know too much about all this, and don't want to overwhelm you, so I am going to try to be very brief. I am also going to provide some links at the end, to provide a basis for what I am saying, and in case you're interested in digging into the science.

      Tinnitus, generally, is a condition that arises when some amount of hearing loss happens, and a part of the brain called the DCN compensates by connecting nerves from other parts of the neck & jaw into the auditory nerve. [1]

      Whether TMJ and dental problems can, on their own, cause tinnitus is disputed. However, it's beyond dispute that TMJ problems (clenching grinding, anything that creates jaw pressure) will make tinnitus worse [2] and that adequately and correctly treating TMJ problems can reduce the severity of tinnitus in some cases. [3]

      If I were you, I would try to consciously let go of the noise as much as possible. It's there, it's going to change and be weird and annoying and do things. Avoid loud noises and ototoxic drugs, but, other than that -- you know you have a jaw problem, focus on treating that, and see how your tinnitus responds.

      I have a TMJ guard I sleep with. If I use it every night, my tinnitus is generally reduced. If I neglect to use it for a couple weeks, my tinnitus can turn into a shrill deafening monster again, and it can take a couple weeks of correct use of my guard for it to reduce back to "normal".


      --- References:
      [1]
      "The Neural Bases and Neuroengineering of...


      [2]
      Impact of Temporomandibular Joint Complaints on Tinnitus-Related Distress

      [3]
      Improving tinnitus with mechanical treatment of the cervical spine and jaw
       
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      Ciara1987

      Ciara1987 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Tmj?
      Thank you for the help and advice. I was doing SO GOOD a few days ago. Moments and almost a DAY of silence and then BOOM right back to square one. Mine would be considered a 3/10 but in my head it may as well be 100000/10. I know the anxiety is taking a hold of me, making this beast so much worse. My biggest fear is I will wake up with blasting in my ears and that will be the way it stays for the rest of my life. I think that is the root of my anxiety.
       
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      Ciara1987

      Ciara1987 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Tmj?
      I got tinnitus back at the tail end of November. I can mostly only hear it in a quiet room or un-started car. It’s not from noise exposure. Possibly caused by tight SCM muscle from Invisalign.

      Any idea if this could go away?

      I only ask because so many people say it’s a good sign you can only hear in the quiet room but it’s driving me absolutely bonkers. It gets louder when I sleep.
       
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    6. ajc

      ajc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      Nobody can see into future. It may or may not go away.
      Duh. Obviously it's a good sign if you can most of the time only hear it in a quiet room.

      Some of us have tinnitus so loud that we hear it over a plane's jet engine.

      Count your blessings and stop worrying.
       
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      Ciara1987

      Ciara1987 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Tmj?
      I was really on the up and up. Sleeping, had moments of silence. I was POSITIVE my tinnitus would go away soon. I had a great month. I didn't really even think about it!

      This last week, It's loud again, constantly ringing. Is this a normal part of healing, or am I falling backwards?

      Please someone give me some input- this is just awful :-(

      Tinnitus since 11/2020. In the left ear. Due to upper cervical, anxiety and TMJ.
       
    8. MrCrybaby

      MrCrybaby Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2014, 10/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      School Band, Noxious Car Radio
      If your issue is TMJD you need to actually treat your joint problem to improve your symptoms. TMJ issues can often be managed successfully with simple daily stretches. Your orthodontist should be able to refer you for this sort of care. Good luck!
       
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    9. Simon85

      Simon85 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably noise exposure, but unknown.
      You will have ups and downs on the way to getting better. Sometimes quieter and full throttle at others - it’s normal and recovery is certainly not a linear progression. I’d expect it to be a lot quieter in the long term. As the previous poster mentioned it’d be worthwhile seeking TMJ treatment if you can.
       
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      Ciara1987

      Ciara1987 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Tmj?
      Yes, I am seeing a physical therapist and and upper cervical. My C2 was out. It’s quieter today.
       
    11. Taafi

      Taafi Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      March 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Invisaign
      Do you still have your wisdom teeth?

      I have had the exact same experience as yours with Invisalign and my stupid orthodontist insisted on keeping my wisdom teeth at the start because they were fully erupted and cavity free. I had a chain of issues including tinnitus since I finished invisalign and a lot of it was because of wisdom teeth which I have now taken out.

      Regardless of wisdom teeth, if your bite is still slightly off, meaning when you close your bite your teeth don’t all meet at the same time, that will put pressure on your face muscles which will pressure your jaw joint further which will worsen your T.
       
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