Does Your Tinnitus Get Better When You Listen to a Similar Frequency Sound?

Discussion in 'Support' started by dakotafred, Apr 2, 2014.

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    1. dakotafred
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      dakotafred Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      I use SineGen to try to make a noise that sounds like my tinnitus. When I listen to it for a few seconds and then turn it off, I notice my t is much less (I actually don't notice it at all unless I put my hands over my ears). However, if I listen to the same noise for a few minutes and then turn it off, I still hear my tinnitus. Have any of you experienced this? I made a recording of the noise and silence and I am listening to it on a loop. I wonder if my T will improve if I play this while I'm sleeping. Maybe I can retrain my brain? Thoughts?
       
    2. Tamar
      Curious

      Tamar Member

      Location:
      Los Angeles
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      11/2013
      Sounds like you are using musical editing software which is over my head but if you invent something that works and takes only a few seconds and could be used intermittently (rather than a few hours a day like Neuromonics) you will really be onto something!
       
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    3. gary
      Transparent

      gary Member Benefactor

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      Dak,what version do you have & where did you download from?
       
    4. dakotafred
      Depressed

      dakotafred Member

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      I have version 2.1 but I don't remember where I got it from. @Tamar here is a photo to help explain what I did (Don't worry, I didn't do anything complicated).
       

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    5. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

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      Mine gets a lot worse with masking lately.
       
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    6. seal

      seal Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      residual inhibition works for me, yes. but unfortunately only for a few seconds.
       
    7. RaZaH
      Not amused

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Yes, if I play my exact T tone it disappears for a couple of seconds.
       
    8. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      I wonder if hypnosis combined with listening to your T sound could rewire the brain to unhear the T. Or 'gamify' this effect somehow similar to the Plasticity T game...
       
    9. Golly
      Bookworm

      Golly Member Benefactor Team Awareness Team Research

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      New York City
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      01/2011
      I have mentioned this in other posts, but I will relate my story again here. I am often able to turn off my tinnitus for the entire day by taking a shower. I have been doing this for years now. It doesn't always work; but when it does, my tinnitus does not reappear until I wake up the next morning. I expect this is residual inhibition. The shower needs to be loud and presumably contain the "correct" tonal frequencies. I have never been able to reproduce this effect outside the shower.

      -Golly
       
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    10. RaZaH
      Not amused

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Tinnitus Tamer works on this concept, playing your T freq with intervals of silence, supposedly to teach you brain that the tone "can" stop ?!
       
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    11. Grace
      No Mood

      Grace Member

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      11/14/2013
      Sounds like that mute button device could work wonders for some people..isnt theres based on kinda the same concept?
       
    12. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      @Golly that's amazing! I must ask, have you ever tried to record the sound of your shower and play it back? I would guess you have. :) High quality recording gear and especially in-ear headphones would probably be a must.
       
    13. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      That makes sense to me, since in effect your brain really stops interpreting the T sound for a while. Maybe this could be enhanced with vagus nerve stimulation at the same time? The brain and it's neuroplasticity is a wonder...
       
    14. Tenna
      Anime

      Tenna Member

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      10/2013
      @Golly

      Very nice. Why not shower every day Golly :p That's really nice, I feel as if I'm experiencing something a bit alike, when I step into a completely quiet room straight from the shower, it feels like my old silence (which felt loud), after some time my t slowly returns - perhaps I get a loudness and very stable tone on both ears which I consider silence, and as it turns unstable morsing, hissing and beeping returns
       
    15. Golly
      Bookworm

      Golly Member Benefactor Team Awareness Team Research

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      New York City
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      01/2011
      I have thought about that. If I could just generate similar frequencies and listen on dry land it should, in principle, work. Perhaps I have not been turning the volume up high enough.

      -G
       
    16. Golly
      Bookworm

      Golly Member Benefactor Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      New York City
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2011
      Needless to say, I am very clean as a direct consequence of this trick. I am not sure why it works sometimes and not others. However, I usually know when it will work in advance. On days when the tinnitus sets in slowly upon waking, I can usually eliminate the hiss with a shower. Also, after taking Klonopin (which I do twice a week), if my tinnitus is not already gone upon waking, the shower tends to work its wonders.

      When I posted about this some time ago, other chimed in to say that they could do the same thing:

      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/shower-can-give-me-prolonged-suppression.1818/

      -G
       
    17. Sound Wave
      Curious

      Sound Wave Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably headphones
      I moved my shower related question to that thread...
       
    18. Tamar
      Curious

      Tamar Member

      Location:
      Los Angeles
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      I just tried the hushtinnitus site to experiment with residual inhibition which seems to be based on the same idea -- playing your tinnitus frequency for a few seconds or minutes and filling in the sounds that your brain is missing from hearing loss. According to the theory, the brain' neurons stop misfiring because the brain hears the missing sound and the tinnitus temporarily disappears. Didn't work for me ; glad it works for Seal and others. I'll try it a few more times and will look up tinnitus tamer. Where there's hope....
       
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    19. Michael S

      Michael S Member

      Location:
      Portland Oregon
      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      I use a residual inhibition method to give myself a few T free seconds. I found a frequency that did the trick, turned it into a 12 second mp4 and put it on my iPhone. I hold the phone 7" from my left ear and play the mp4. I get about 10 T free seconds. I also found that if I do it a second time immediately I don't get the 10 T free seconds.
       
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