'Driven Mad by Tinnitus' — Plumber Commits Suicide After Killing Ex-Girlfriend and Attacking Her Son

Discussion in 'Support' started by carlover, Dec 18, 2016.

    1. carlover
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      carlover Member Benefactor

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    2. Penate

      Penate Member

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      07/04/2015
      Tinnitus and hyperacusis can do that and much more, I hope government, FDA and health department looking to this horrendous thing know it happens every day because of this evil horrendous condition.
       
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    3. glynis
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      glynis Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

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      So sad..... I wish he found us on here for support..!when will people take tinnitus more serious as can be mental torture....lots of love glynis
       
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    4. valeri

      valeri Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Tragedy!
       
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    5. Sam Bridge

      Sam Bridge Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music/gigs probably
      Someone commented that t is the leading cause of suicide in the UK? Is that true?
       
    6. MrBonk

      MrBonk Member

      Location:
      Winchester, Oregon
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ETD/Insane sinus congestion/TMJ/mold allergy/dog bark??????
      Sadly not the first and won't be the last.
      The world needs to wake up and acknowledge the risk people put their ears at.

      Especially the music industry and their endless loudness war of making music more compressed and as loud as physically possible.
       
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    7. Tyler Montgomery
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      Tyler Montgomery Member

      Location:
      Kentucky
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/12/15
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Perforated eardrum from hard blow to the head.
      There was probably a LOT more than just tinnitus going wrong in this guys life. Tinnitus alone cannot drive an otherwise mentally stable person to commit such crimes.
       
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    8. Oli
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      Oli Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/04/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      @Tyler Montgomery I wouldn't say that. It's a possibility that T alone can break someone's mental state.
       
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    9. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Brighton, UK
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      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      Tinnitus comes in many different forms and intensities. Mild, moderate, severe and extremely severe. Some people with loud intrusive tinnitus have gone to extremes when they can no longer cope with it. I do not need to explain further. However, I agree with @Tyler Montgomery, there was something else going on here. Perhaps the woman that he was with and her son were giving him a difficult time? I don't know. I just don't think it's as cut and dry as that news article has explained.
      Michael
       
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      carlover
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      carlover Member Benefactor

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      As the OP maybe he did have other issues thing is it is happening out there because of T ,,,there may be a feeling on here about not putting this stuff up and I get that but this has to be put out there IMHO if only to stop Drs saying "get on with your life it wont kill you" well guess what Doc it can and does.

      From another forum I quote I am saddened that I have only just found this site. Unfortunately it is too late for my brother who committed suicide nearly 3 weeks ago. He had suffered from severe tinnitus for 3 1/2 years and this had led to depression and severe anxiety. He was amazing at managing it for peiods but would have several periods of severe depression linked in with his tinnitus suffering. It was clear from what he told us that his action to end his life was ultimately down to the inscessant noise in his head caused by the tinnitus.
      From a grieving family I urge all people suffering from this seemingly misunderstood condition to please refrain from ending your life.
      If anyone knows of any research regarding tinnitus and suicide I would be really interested to read it.

      We are at the beginning of our grieving and understanding about the distress that the tinnitus caused my brother.

      What else can I say. I hope that there are ways to keep your hope alive.
       
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    11. Marlino
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      Marlino Member

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      Germany
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      02/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      @carlover
      I think suicide due to t is somehow kept undisclosed.
      To be honest even me having severe and moderate episodes cannot fully remeber after a moderate episode of a couple of days why t can be so distressing as it is when its severe. If it gets severe again I cannot believe that it's going to be managable again.
      Another example is my girlfriend who knows my tears and my suffering for months now and still asks me why I cannot just adapt.

      About statistics I recently read this article about MVD. 2 out of 72 patients committed suicide in the follow up period.
       
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    12. stophiss

      stophiss Member

      Location:
      Florida
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      too full a life
      In the vast majority of cases, Drs. are correct, tinnitus doesn't kill you. I know several people with it including my girl friend. This criticism is levied all the time against Drs. Guess what? There is no cure for tinnitus to date. What else can they tell you? People have no choice but to accept it or it will ruin their life. Drs. only know what they are taught in school. They invent nothing. All they do is parrot what they are taught and in general are more enlightened than the lay public who are even less educated.

      Tinnitus is not the same for different people. For some tinnitus is a loud explosion in their head and others an almost inaudible hiss. If a person has a 100dB jet engine inside their head they will have a hard time being rational. Its hard to habituate to intrusive tinnitus but even that can be done.
      Many make a pack with tinnitus that no matter how loud it is, they won't let it win. They choose to live.

      Suicide is an epidemic in society and overall numbers are pretty astounding. People in fact don't need much of an excuse to take their own lives. Many things can cause it from being bullied on the internet to breaking up with a girl friend or wife. 22 veterans in the US returning from war commit suicide each day. Staggering. Some have tinnitus in fact along with PTSD, physical impairment beyond comprehension and a life of challenge in some cases too large to bear. I would say its extremely rare that someone commits suicide due to tinnitus without a history of mental illness i.e. depression and/or anxiety. I also believe that those with intrusive tinnitus have a much higher frequency of suicide...not even close compared to someone with a light buzzing in their head. Everything about tinnitus that people don't understand is as it is for a reason. This is where we are. Hopefully one day more advanced therapies with help which is greatly needed.
       
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    13. Richard zurowski

      Richard zurowski Member Benefactor

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      England
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      27/12/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection.
      It's not nice to see this news but having tinnitus makes you more aware of what's happening to people with this awful condition. My thoughts are with the families involved.
       
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    14. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

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      Cairns
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      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      I think a huge contributing factor, and I really don't know how it would be properly addressed, is not so much the tinnitus/hyperacusis, but the seeming indifference from Medical practitioners who so often don't pick up on the manner in which people are suffering, leaving people with a sense of callous abandonment. I know of a few Audiologists and Audiology groups in Australia that have been actively working to teach Medical people that this is not something to just pass off with a glib "get on with your life"approach. Two have conceded to me how much they despaired at the lack of knowledge, let alone understanding that Medicine as a profession in general has of these conditions and their impact on people's lives. I've observed over the years working in healthcare that many are more devastated by an ignorant or indifferent response from a care-giver than they are by the disease itself. You can get this or that injury or disease anytime, but when you get a sense (even if its just poor communication) that no-one is interested in helping you, then that's when it really falls apart.
      This is a truth, and like all of us, what we add to that knowledge from our various schools tends to come from later experience, and what comes our way and draws our interest. Medicine is for the most part a career in which people choose what they will and won't do, depending on reward, be it financial or personal fulfillment. Tinnitus does not loom very large in a lot of practitioners lives or choice of career path at this time (as our ENT visits have shown the bulk of us), and really, until you have it you don't really understand much about it, so those who do go into it usually have a personal motivation to do so......rambling I know....

      Merry Christian celebration of giving and unselfishness superimposed upon pagan thanksgiving for the Northern solstice marking the beginning of the end of winter and the rebirth of all that is good and bountiful. The more things change.....
       
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    15. SilverSpiral
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      SilverSpiral Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ACOUSTIC TRAUMA
      What is MVD?
       
    16. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      Mitral Valve Disease?
       
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    17. MikeL1972

      MikeL1972 Member

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      3/2016
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      Uknown
      Very sad story. I believe there was more to this unfortunate incident than tinnitus. Perhaps the individual who committed these atrocities was also taking drugs?
       
    18. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

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      Probably sound, though never proven
      I'm guessing here I have to say. It could also be Micro-Vascular Disease.
       
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    19. Jacob83
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      Jacob83 Member

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      06/2000
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      I <3 punk rock and metal
      Of course there is, it's a story from The Daily Fail
       
    20. Thatowoodyknox

      Thatowoodyknox Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Band
      Hey guys. Good to meet you all. you know, I had bad tinnitus from 2012. Loud music, Band, drums... it was unbearable. Yup I agree it makes it seem like life is over, I often asked myself if death isn’t an option. Like that assisted suicide thing, think about it a lot. But you also know that there’s lots to be grateful for. After quitting my band and eating healthier it stared to be bearable even on some days I was able to completely ignore it. Started playing again this year and guess what. Fukha is back. Oh man, I wish there was a way to just ignore it. Guys any pills that have worked for you? Anti-depressent pills, magnesium, ginkgo... let’s be strong for ourselves and each other, I wish all the light and recovery for you all on here. This is an unfair and horrible thing to experience...
       
    21. dpdx
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      Murica
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      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      If my Tinnitus ever became extremely severe then I would end it all for sure. I had it for three weeks back in January and It was like I had a jet engine inside my head. I couldnt do anything at all! at least with severe t I can still go hiking and stuff. It is terrible and I do wish that I had gotten cancer/AIDS in 25 years then have Severe T for rest of my life. I pray to god that no human being experiences severe or extreme tinnitus.
       
    22. Elfin
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      Elfin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert
      how did you lessen the intensity of the jet engine?
       
    23. dpdx
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      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      It just lessened in 3 weeks. I dont know how. When I first got Tinnitus back in Sep 2017 I had Severe Tinnitus-Severe for about a week or two before it went down to Moderate. I hated it and it still sucked then it dropped to mild and to very mild, after my ENT pressured me to do all the ear tests possible to rule diseases it went from very mild to extreme and then it reduced to severe where it stayed since January 29 or so.
       
    24. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Brighton, UK
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      April /1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      My tinnitus is variable from: complete silence, mild, moderate, severe and can reach extreme severe levels. When necessary, I take clonazepam to reduce the tinnitus from severe or extreme severe levels.

      Michael
       
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    25. dpdx
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      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      I had extreme tinnitus for 2-3 weeks back in January. I feel so sorry for you. I cant imagine living with that. I couldn't even work no more as it was that loud. It was a jet engine (literally) next to my ear, it brought pain to me. Right now I am dealing with severe which is also terrible.
       
    26. glynis
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      glynis Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

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      Meniere's Disease
      @dpdx,
      I have sever bilateral tinnitus for many years and never get a break.
      I don't know what it's like no more to hear silence and have many more years to live and I do want to live and enjoy every moment I can as I do.
      Tinnitus can play mind games with you but eventually you become stronger and the emotional reaction will change .
      I hear mine over everything but just couldn't give a dam no more what my ears get up to as long as im not in pain and can hear.
      love glynis
       
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    27. dpdx
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      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      You are a strong person Glynis. I just dont know how I will be able to work with this or raise a family. Mine can also be heard over everything :(
       
    28. glynis
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      glynis Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

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      2004
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      Meniere's Disease
      @dpdx,
      All I can say is try not see your future how you are feeling now as our future will change and we carn't stop that.
      Life is like a rolling stone and picks things up on it's journey as well as loose parts of what we love and people we love but we can help map out parts of our future by putting plans in to action.
      love glynis
       
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    29. Elfin
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      Elfin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert
      Mine has moved in tone and I can now hear it over everything. The high pitched tone is maddening.

      I can live with the hiss and the hum and the computer server noise, but the high pitched is awful as is the higher wasp-like buzz.

      Not sure I’ll ever habituate to this
       
    30. Shera
      Bookworm

      Shera Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/9/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      head trama caused TMJ/neck problems/ETD
      While I understand being driven mad by the T. I don't think I could ever kill a person even when the T gets to horrible severe, drowning out all other noises. I get the suicide urge, but I wouldn't and couldn't take someone with me.

      I feel horrible for all families involved.
       
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