Ear Ringing to High Pitch

Discussion in 'Support' started by II Packy II, Apr 15, 2014.

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    1. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      So here's a question: does anyone here experience a sustained ring to certain noises such as whistling or female singing. Furthermore, has anyone had any success in reducing this because it has become extremely bothersome. I'm a huge trance and EDM fan and my ears ring in response to the noise. Even voices are making my ears ring on too of the ringing hissing I already have.

      Also: in my right ear bass and collective noise can sound distorted as if everything is fighting for the same level of attention. I am scheduled to go to UT Dallas for an attempt to modulate this and treat my tinnitus. I feel I need an EEG to find out what's really going on, but was curious as to other people's experience regarding these tel phenomena.
       
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    2. Andrew_89

      Andrew_89 Member

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      3/2014
      Hey mate andrew here sounds like you have the same kinda thing I do rings so high it kinda almost shakes your ear ?
       
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    3. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      For me, bass seems to rattle my ear drum super hard in my right ear. Almost like it's overcompensating via the bones. Furthermore, sounds seem distorted at times and if I lightly tap my ear, it rings with no difficulty at all. I already have tinnitus, but it seems like my ear is acting hyersensitive to everything. I dread saying hyperacuity, but it has to be either a variation of tinnitus, or potentially something else. I've read into muscle tears, etc. causing this or even a pinhole sized hole in the drum (I had a tube in that ear) and certain pitches such as whistling make my ear ring even higher than normal until the origin of the noise ceases production of said noise. It's very frustrating as even conversations can make my ear ting as a result.
       
    4. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      Sitting outside of a laser quest (laser tag) and this place is stupid loud. And here I am as the lady comes over the comms to tell everyone their scores and every time she talks my ear rings responsively. I am really getting sick of this... Even regular conversation is becoming problematic.
       
    5. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      And last night where I go to hang out on the weekends is a local card and game shop that gets pretty busy. Left ear sounds more or less fine, but my right ear sounds extremely jumbled. Almost like the teacher from the cartoon Peanuts. Garbled.
       
    6. cullenbohannon
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      cullenbohannon Member Benefactor

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      1/2014
      Hey packy my ear got that way for a month or so. It went away though with rest. Hope the same happens for you man. Have you seen someone experienced in t about this to try to get a diagnoses for it?
       
    7. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      It's been like this for a while now. It came on and then quit, but it's been persistent for a while now. I'm going to UT Dallas in June and hoping to get some insight to it. Was curious as who else has experienced this. I think it's a variation of tinnitus.
       
    8. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      Anyone got anything they'd like to contribute? I feel at a loss -_-
       
    9. cullenbohannon
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      cullenbohannon Member Benefactor

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      Packy I'm sorry man. Wish I could be more helpful but I really think if you let it rest it will get better. Is there pain or pressure. Also I don't know if you are but if your anxious or depressed please get treated for that. Often it's the worst part of t. Keep us updated man. Things will get bett
       
    10. JTP
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      5/2013
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      Shit happens
      Hi, No sustained rings to noise but I've got a nasty distortion for a long time. Most of the time it has occurred for louder-than-talk noises and finally after a specially 'distorted period' I had a constant tinnitus some days later. I've also had crazy tensor tympani thumbs as long as I can remember. The distortion and the thumbs do not cause me any distress, I do not remember they ever did. The tinnitus is going into same category albeit very slowly. Not to mention the different-sized pictures in my eyes.. I guess my point is, that eventually we'll be ok even with some crazy stuff..
       
    11. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      I sure as shit hope so. I can't even enjoy music unless I blare it so loud I can't hear the responsive ring and distortion. That's what makes me think its tinnitus variation because it only seems to be at certain frequencies. Not variations in frequency.
       
    12. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      The distortion never got better for you? Or you just stopped caring?
       
    13. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      Also do you feel like bass hits your ear particular hard? I swear my bones are causing this or my cochlea is one. It's like it's hyperacusis, but it doesn't fit the profile of hyperacuity.
       
    14. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      Anyone else? I'm hoping to bring more light or experience out of this phenomenon.
       
    15. JTP
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      5/2013
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      Shit happens
      It's been periodic for me. I remember on my pre-T days I was concerned enough to do some googling, but did not really find any answers then, so I let it be. It must be quite loud percussive sounds for me before it happens, not necessarily very bass heavy. I really don't know if it is a 'software' or 'hardware' problem. It has been a year since I last had it, did not care about it much then, it did always pass. When I think of it, since I now associate it to the onset of my tinnitus probably it will bother me more next time it starts to occur.
       
    16. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      I Wonder if Dr. Nagler has seen this presented before?
       
    17. billie48
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      billie48 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Research

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      03/2009
      Sorry to hear you are suffering, Packy. I have ultra high pitch loud T and severe hyperacusis a few years back. My T pitch is like 20 times that of a dentist drill. It is simply like a lazer beam of ultra pitch sound with so much energy and resonating in my whole head. As I am typing, it is there with its maddening scream. It used to scare the heck out of me and cause me relentless anxiety & panic attacks a few years back. But I don't give a dime about it now. The body can get used to this sensation. But it is definitely a scary noise. A while ago on Yuku someone posted a sound clip of the dog whistle and warned people to listen to it with low volume. I didn't pay attention to that warning and turned it on at normal volume. Instantly my high pitched T just vibrated with the dog whistle and even for a short time my ear drums hurt for the rest of the day. It may have to do with the physical phenomenon of Resonance. In nature, things of same frequency can vibrate together, like a soprano/tenor's voice can break a glass because the air column inside the glass happens to have the same frequency and it vibrates with the singing voice of the same pitch.

      Also, your description of your condition may fit some sort of hyperacusis. Have you checked with ENT or doctors about that? If you have question for Dr. Nagler, you can use the Doctor's Corner to ask him about your questions. All the best to you, bro.
       
    18. I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
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      mid seventies
      That's me. Ringing, distortion, garbled sounds, hints of hyperacusis. 40 years of it !!!
      Get out of those loud environments and the loud music.
       
    19. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      I fucking hope it's not hyperacusis....
       
    20. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      Isn't Hyperacusis associated with pain? I get pain rarely, if ever. I still hope this is just some exacerbation of the Tinnitus profile and not hyperacuity, because I already suffer too much for something else to be wrong. Did your hyperacusis go away?
       
    21. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      I just get the total peanuts teacher 'wah wahhh wah wuh wah wah' sort of noises when a lot is being said by multiple people.
       
    22. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      So it never went away for you either? I've never experienced something more frustrating. So close to pulling the trigger and just getting rid of myself and the noise altogether. Literally ruins my life. About the only way I can get by is through sleep or excessive alcohol, and now I can't really drink because my spleen is allegedly enlarged and I was having abdominal pain (numbness atm), so probably fried my Pancreas now despite the CT showing otherwise. And hearing Nagler say he doesn't think any cure will ever happen makes me so much readier to end it. I'm going to UT Dallas in June, but if that turns nothing up...I don't know what I'm going to do. Only been 2.5 years of this and I'm too ready to just be dead or have it gone. I'm not living a life anymore. It's becoming too overwhelming.
       
    23. Mr. Cartman
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      Mr. Cartman Member Benefactor

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      12/2013
      My ears also had a lot of sensitivity towards air pressure so to speak.

      When someone slammed the car doors, and that tiny pressure change occurs inside the car, my ears just hurt like crazy.. Pretty much gone now.. But I still have some of it left. I do hope it will fade away in time.
       
    24. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      Sometimes for me, at different parts of the day, I feel significantly more deaf than I allegedly should be. They claim Eustachian Tube Dysfunction, but I'm not sure what it is. I want them to take this stupid fucking tube out of my left ear, but they 'want to wait for it to fall out.' Conventional wisdom from yet another crackpot who neglected to mention that sometimes they never 'fall out.'

      My right ear is hypersensitive. If I rub my outer ear canal, I get a tinny sound as opposed to my left. And the same ear if I lightly slap my ear, it increases in ring and does it reactively. My left ear does not do this. JUST....fuck it all...Out of all the shitty medical things to happen to me, this shit is by far the worst. It never gets better only worse. I'd rather have Cancer. At least then, I'd know at some point I'll get a break or just be dead and gone. At least, silence would be not so easily ridiculed by my own petulant mind. Meanwhile, corrupt people benefit by the 'standard' practice and others suffer for it. Not only do I hate my life, but I hate humanity.

      Take a limb, do whatever, just give me my fucking silence and peace back.
       
    25. Mr. Cartman
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      Mr. Cartman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Norway
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      12/2013
      Im sorry to hear that you are having such a hard time.. I have those days too.. But im really trying to stay optimistic.. We have to! Try to see it as something that will pass one way or another and I truely believe it will.
      Either by research and medicine, the body's own way of healing itself or by habituation.

      I also have to admit that this is by far the hardest condition that I ever have endured, and still is to this day, but I also have to say that it has gotten a lot better the last months.

      Sympoms I had in the beginning was distorted sounds, fleeting T, a T that is somewhat recative and being above all sounds, a constant hiss, headaches, weird clicks in my head, tight upper jaw, H, sensitivity to air pressure change, pain in my ears, a morse code type T, threshold shift for the smallest sound and probably a few more, but I have to say it again, it keeps getting better and I hope so bad that yours will as well!! Hopefully it will fade away in time.

      So In the meanwhile we have to support eachother the best as we can :)

      Do you have any idea what set your T off?
       
    26. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      It never once ceases to amaze me that something that is so commonly experienced is so misunderstood and under-researched. The phenomenon has been dated back to Medieval ages and yet, for whatever reason, did anyone ever bother to figure it out. It's likely a vastly complex solution, but when you consider that we leave people dead on an operating table, only to bypass their hearts need to continue beating, we resurrect what might be considered someone who is virtually dead, and they live a healthy (sometimes) future. Meanwhile, all of us, doomed to the snake oil and pseudoscience and the blatant lack of effort by human kind. We do things to the brain ALREADY that are more complex in their solution, but we can't put the two and two between the ear and the brain together. We can correct blurred vision and visual issues, which the eye is one of the most complex parts of the human body, but we can do nothing for the ear. In fact, I would argue that almost EVERYTHING done to the ear seems to only make it worse. Doctor thought tubes would help me. Did they? No, of course they didn't. Myringotomy tubes are now a hot button topic for use on adults because of the likelihood of associated Tinnitus and potential deafness resulting. And wouldn't you fucking know it, I lost hearing from the tube in my left ear.

      At what point are people going to take us seriously? When we stomp on their grounds with rifles? Those with hearing disorders are treated as if they are some sort of casual martyr, afflicted with the 'sucks to be you' syndrome. I shouldn't have more knowledge of my own issues than someone who was trained for many years in a specific area of study, and the level of ongoing research affiliated with that field. These people are making handfuls of money with no more understanding than the common person walking down the street. So why are these people making all this money when in many regards they know so little?

      Then you have the corrupt lobbyists and politicians that intentionally hinder potentially groundbreaking discoveries for the sake of personal gain. For every one good man representing the people, there are nine more selfishly motivated modern bandits that seek gain at the misery of others. How many times in history has the greed of another taken the livelihood of someone, or for that matter, multiple people. Success and unethical action should not coincide, and yet they commonly do, especially in regards to politics and pharmaceuticals. And despite the rigorous efforts good people take to prove their drugs, devices, etc. work, so many others get the green light because of their snake oil profitability; meanwhile, many other legitimate options never make it to market because they would change the industry and actually force someone to improve (i'm looking at you American Auto Industry). It happens again and again, day after day, people are left to bleed out for the green baths of others. And don't think for a second that I am just some socialist perpetuating the idea that capitalism is bad. I am a believer in the principles of business, but I am not a believer of the people.

      Simply put, I'm so fucking done.

      And I know nothing will come of what I have to say, but it feels better to say it, than to be expected to sit idly or hide my opinions from others. Especially after being told:

      "You've just got to learn to live with it."

      "There's nothing we can do."

      "Maybe it'll go away."

      "You can just ignore it."

      "It's just worse today, that's why you're so upset."

      "It can't be that bad."

      "People deal with worse things."

      "You're just being selfish and not thinking of other people's feelings."

      "Why do you have to be so upset all of the time?"

      "Well I have X, so your Y doesn't seem so bad."

      "I have it too, but it doesn't bother me."

      "A lot of people have Tinnitus, you're not special."

      "You just need to get out more, and tackle life."

      "You just need some medication to take the edge off."

      "We should go to see a movie. It won't be that loud, right?"

      And the list goes on and on and on and on. People never stop to think about what they say, they just say it. They just pander this magical, fairytale idea that life will be perfect if you just continue pretending. People can call me negative, I just don't care. I am not going to pretend that my life is some magic story about a kid who overcame Tinnitus and other afflictions by ignoring them. In fact, a more accurate portrayal is a story about a kid who made one mistake, and all his accomplishment has been squelched by the incessant, never ending torture I endure from the moment I wake up, until I go to sleep, or I get so drunk that I just don't care anymore. A 4.0 student, who slowly isolated himself, lost so many of the people that were close to him, desolate, alone, and only in the hands of other silent sufferers who only have a voice on these boards. Dreams altered, and even with the memory of great successes, are forever marred by the clicking, chiming, cricketing, hissing, high pitch squeals, throbbing pulse, pain from everyday sounds; leaving a blemish on every good note.

      This is by far the worst thing I've ever endured. I'm not going to pretend like it's not a big deal, and neither should anyone else. It is a very big deal. In fact, for many people it is the difference between living a good life and a mediocre one. Trying to make the best of things is not making the best of life. It's settling, and I either intend to live the life I want, or not live a life at all. So forgive me for being brash, harsh, depressive, angry, and so forth.

      P.S. Yes, it feels really, really, really, really good to let this all fly off the handle.
       
    27. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

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      05/2012
      My Tinnitus, like so many others began from a Gunshot; or series of .380 gunshots in particular. It got so bad to the point at one time, if I touched paper or garbage bags, my ear would ring with the noise. I even started, in dire stupidity, hitting myself in the ear on multiple occasions just to get the Tinnitus to change tones. And as a result, I've probably only made it worse. At one point, my Tinnitus was so loud that I underwent constant panic attacks, so naturally, I felt if no one was going to help me and nothing else was, let's see if a concussion changes things. Incredible logic, right? Right as I was being adapted to the T, my right ear tube fell out, and since then, I've had incredibly loud ringing in my right ear, that changes to a hiss, and since that tube fell out, I've experienced this overall tinny, reactive ringing, minor hyperacuity like symptoms, except without the pain. Do I get pain? Every now and then, but it is nothing like the common stories you see associated with Hyperacusis; therefore, I am not convinced that it is what I am enduring. Now my right ear is hyper sensitive, and collections of noise is often garbled, but at the same time I can hear the garbled noise as clear noise. Almost as if I am hearing a muffled and clear version of the same noises. Makes a lot of fucking sense, I know right? And my family, my step dad who has tinnitus, don't get it. His is so minor, he doesn't even care that he has it, but he had an equilibrium change and started complaining to me about his sensitivity, and all I could say is "welcome to my world."

      I know that was kind of cruel, but after so many times trying to get people to understand the torture I'm going through, you just want someone to take you seriously. Then sure enough, someone gets it, and then and only then do they truly feel sorrow for you. It's not like losing a limb where people immediately show pity and empathy. Only when the psychological pain seeps through the rigid cracks we have, do people show any level of consciousness to the issue.

      My mom takes so many tylenol, and I continually warn her and she is already aware of the connection of ear ringing and NSAIDS, Aceto, etc, but she suffers from migraines and takes the risk. Her ears will ring and she says she gets it, but only when it never goes away, do you really get it. She's also a Nurse Practitioner, so she is far from ignorant in the field of medicine.

      I went shooting one time, and i'm resigned to this fate. My brother on the other hand, shoots the same pistol I shot without ears all the time, no tinnitus, no longterm deafness, nothing. My step-dad shoots without ears as well and used an m-60 in Haiti, but he still blasts away with his Glock 9, cigarette in mouth, and unloads a full clip. And despite his low level Tinnitus he has, he seems unscathed and the so-called cumulative effect on Tinnitus seems non-existent for him.

      So here I am, the one time mistake, and I am left to bear a never-closing wound that no one can see unless the tears roll from my ducts. Then and only then, do people ask me what's wrong.
       
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    28. I who love music
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      I who love music Member

      Location:
      Michigan
      Tinnitus Since:
      mid seventies
      Yup.
       
    29. II Packy II
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      II Packy II Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2012
      Do you get the sensation of hearing the same noise twice? Like you hear the Peanuts teacher garble, but hear that noise normally as well? I get almost a sense hearing it garbled and normal at the same time.
       
    30. Mr. Cartman
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      Mr. Cartman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      I actaully talked to a girl in the mid 60s who had exactly what you are talking about there, hearing the same noise twice.
      She said it lasted for quite some time, but went away.

      That was by the time I had panic attacks because of my T, and she told me she could promise that my T would get better, but I had to give it time. And she was not talking about days or weeks, but months to years.

      She actually worked at a norwegian non profit hearing organization. Very nice lady that gave me some hope at the onset of my T.
       

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