Head-Mounted Device for Motion Sickness Reduces Tinnitus

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    1. nicole76
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    2. Piney

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      Wait! What? This is what a Baja device does for SSHL, of course you’re inputting vibration not collecting vibration from sound. Which of course is how we hear sound. If you figure this out you’d be on your way to some serious money and some serious gratitude. Send me out one when you’ve figured out the parameters. Hurry up before I invent my own.
       
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    3. JohnAdams
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      So I guess you have to wear this constantly?
       
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    4. Piney

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      baha-soft-band.png

      Baha device for kids, without the band, a Titanium screw is inserted into your skull the unit hangs onto.

      If this actually works, which I don’t believe, but I also didn’t believe by losing hearing I’d gain sound, you could use a sticky pad for your skin and mount it. I believe med el has been making a bone conduction unit which just sticks on and holds the processing device. Add adjustable vibration settings and you may have something.

      https://www.medel.com/us/adhear/
       
    5. ChrisBoyMonkey

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      Looks like Neuromod has some new competition.
       
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    6. lymebite
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      British grad student Spencer Salter writes:

      I was studying the effectiveness of a head-mounted device to stop motion sickness in driverless cars when something unexpected happened. One of the participants in my experiment reported that her tinnitus had dramatically improved, she scored 100% for motion sickness susceptibility so was of interest even with the additional confounding effect of tinnitus.

      Both motion sickness and tinnitus are linked to hearing and the inner ear, so it’s not uncommon for people who suffer from one condition to suffer from the other. Motion sickness happens when there is a mismatch between what the eyes are telling the brain and what the inner ears sense as motion (1).

      In a car, this means that if you look down at a phone, a newspaper or a stationary object, your eyes are telling your brain that you’re not moving. But your vestibular system (the organs of balance in your ear) are telling your brain that you are moving.

      This is the reason that having a good view of the road ahead and looking at the horizon to anticipate future motion prevents sickness. What your eyes see matches what you sense.

      The head-mounted vibrating device I was investigating lightly vibrates just behind your ear. In the lab, it is known that this method reduces motion sickness (2). I wanted to know if it worked on real roads in driverless cars when people are facing forwards and backwards using a convenient wearable device.

      We know from an earlier experiment that facing backwards in a driverless car causes a lot of motion sickness – more than trains – and may limit the number of people who use driverless cars with seats that face in this direction (3).

      For the experiment, we recruited 24 volunteers all of whom were highly susceptible to motion sickness. The device we asked them to wear has four vibration levels. Half the volunteers (the control group) had the device set to the lowest vibration (level one), and half had it set to level three (the experimental group). Level 3 is the effective vibration level for motion sickness reduction.

      The test lasted about 15 minutes with people getting sick after only six minutes while being driven around an urban route at normal speeds. The vehicle we used was a modified minivan with seats that faced towards the rear window, like many future driverless vehicle concepts.

      The volunteers completed a search-and-find puzzle to make sure that they all looked down and not out the windows.

      The device did, indeed, help those who became sick during the experiment. The extra vibrations on level three meant that people took nearly twice as long to become sick under the same conditions as the control group and commented that they recovered quickly when on straight roads. This means that for people who are highly susceptible to motion sickness, a journey could be 12 minutes long with the device, compared with six minutes without the device, before the person felt nauseous. The motion sickness findings will be detailed in a future scientific journal.

      As I mentioned, one of our volunteers has tinnitus. She described the condition as constantly hearing a cricket chirrup. For her, the condition is a torment, especially when she is at home and it is quiet. For a tinnitus sufferer there is often no quiet time.

      Beaming smile

      I applied the vibration device to the volunteer’s head and set it to level three. After the initial surprise of the vibration, she immediately noticed that her tinnitus had improved. Her beaming smile was something to behold.

      Over many years, she had seen several doctors and specialists about her condition, but with no real progress. I don’t know why the device had this effect, only that it vibrates the inner ear, important for motion sickness and tinnitus.

      I have since offered the device to other tinnitus sufferers (video below). They all have a similar smile. Some took the device home to use in the quiet where tinnitus is perceived at its worst. Afterwards, they don’t want to give the device back.

      The device is comfortable to wear. Indeed, after a minute or two, people forget that they are wearing it. It is not noisy; the vibrations are below what we can hear. In fact, I had to ask for people to hand them back from the motion sickness experiment, they didn’t know they were still wearing them.

      Although this is only anecdotal evidence, it was a real privilege to see those tinnitus sufferers experience some relief from their condition. The device is being developed further for motion sickness, vertigo and tinnitus. It is hoped that this information generates further research by others within the field of hearing / vestibular dysfunction. I have finished the research for my PhD, this however I feel should be continued with active tinnitus researchers (over to you).

      https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/we-may-have-discovered-potential-remedy-tinnitus-spencer
       
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    7. Chinmoku

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      Could this be based on an effect similar to tapping/Reddit "cure"? In any case the university should continue to research this.
       
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    8. JohnSV

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      So. Uhm. Sounds like one should be able to modulate T by pressing a vibrator of sorts to the bone behind the ear?
       
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    9. JohnAdams
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      I was wondering the exact same thing.
       
    10. Fabrikat

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      Otosclerosis then volume then viral infection
      Can't be too hard to try this one at home. Just a matter of borrowing the wife's/girlfriend's 'personal device' and firing it up. And make sure you're alone. It won't be good look.:)
       
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    11. JohnAdams
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      yeah just clench it in your teeth?

      That's the cure. We'll all be walking around biting on dildos.
       
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    12. Notch

      Notch Member

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      From the inventor of the Ototech/Otolith device, Sam Owen:

      "Q4: Unfortunately our research to date has shown that it's almost an identical vibration that's therapeutic for VR and motion sickness as well as more serious conditions of the vestibular system. That's why we're not rushing to the consumer market, until we have clear technological differentiation we can't sell to a market that solves a $100 pain point with the same product that solves a $1000+ pain point in a different market."

      I read that as they could, right now, sell this cheap-to-manufacture device for less than $100 for VR use. But they won't because they'll miss out on maximising profit from tinnitus sufferers who would pay $1000's for relief.

      Fuck these guys.
       
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    13. JohnAdams
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      Anyone want an equivalent? I could easily make these and sell them for $30-$40 probably even less. I'm serious.

      It's a plastic strap attached to a plastic housing with a small vibrator inside out it. I could very easily replicate this as could probably many people here.
       
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    14. JohnSV

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      Start by making one that works for you. Then we'll take it from there ;o)
       
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    15. JohnSV

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    16. GregCA
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    17. Emanuel Lourenco
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      I wish I could try that device...
       
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    18. lcj

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      I emailed Spencer Salter and got this reply from a different email account:

      Hi,

      Thank you for reaching out to Otolith Labs. At this time, our product is not available for sale as we are still going through clinical trials prior to FDA approval. You can be added to our mailing list for when the device becomes available in the US.

      For the device specifications, we are unable to disclose the frequency and intensity of the vibrations. The device is meant for unilateral stimulation on the mastoid bone. For more information, please check out our website at otolithlabs.com. If you have any other questions, please let me know. Thank you again for your interest in Otolith Labs' product.

      Emma Boguski
      Otolith Labs
       
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    19. JohnAdams
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      Translation:

      We know how to help you but we're not going to and we're not going to tell you how either.

      Total scumbags IMHO.
       
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    20. lcj

      lcj Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Totally agree with you. But at least FDA trials and approvals for devices are light years quicker than for pharmaceuticals, and they seem money hungry enough to push to market.
       
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    21. lcj

      lcj Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Another email from otolith labs after signing up to receive updates from them. This one is from sam.owen@otolithlabs.com

      Hello xyz,

      Thank you for reaching out. Right now we're evaluating our technology through clinical trials and plan to come to market after receiving FDA approval. Currently we don't have any trials underway for tinnitus (but that may change) so the only way you'd be able to try it is by visiting our office in Washington DC where we could give a demonstration. We hope to keep everyone posted through our website about clinical, regulatory, and product updates.

      Sam


      Anybody in the Washington DC area interested in trying the demo and reporting back??
       
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    22. lymebite
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      @lcj - thanks for posting their response. I am a volunteer with the ATA Tinnitus Support Group for the Washington, DC metro area. I have shared this info with our group members. Maybe one or more will go check it out.
       
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    23. Chriscom

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      I work downtown and could do that. Since they're not trialing it for tinnitus perhaps they don't have stringent requirements, so perhaps a guy like me who's only had tinnitus since May (moderate to super loud, the latter tonight) would be allowed to give it a go. Think I should contact this Sam Owen directly?
       
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    24. lcj

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      That’d be awesome! Looking forward to your report! Yes I let him know I posted it on a tinnitus message board so he should expect replies from others.
       
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    25. Chriscom

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      Super, I was just about to send the email before checking back here--good to know he expects some incoming. :)
       
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    26. lcj

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      @lymebite Great! Thank you!
       
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    27. ChrisBoyMonkey

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      Xyz? I thought your name was icj?
       
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    28. lcj

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      It was my attempt at discretion lol
       
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    29. Lilah
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      I live in DC so I'll contact the company about this.
       
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    30. Bill Bauer
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      May I ask you to please list all of the sacrifices for the sake of fellow human beings that you, a pure-of-heart person, have done?
       
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