Here I Go Again

Discussion in 'Support' started by LeQuack, Jan 24, 2016.

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    1. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      In a state of worrying again. I was in an elevator and carrying some stuff in my arms. And just when I reached my floor I was clumsy and it all fell to the floor. The floor and the whole elevator is metal so it made the loudest sound ever, reverberated by the small elevator. I knew before it hit the floor I was in trouble. Since it's late I was the only one in the building so at least there was no one else around but now I'm panicking.

      Since I have a sound meter I put in some ear plugs and tried to replicate the sound and it measured 95-100 dB give or take. But I don't know know how good sound meters are for sudden noises like that, I did try it a few times but it was always around that. How worried should I be? I just can't believe that even though I try and protect my hearing the best I can something like this happens totally unexpected and totally destroys me.
       
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    2. glynis-harbron
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      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

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      Hi @LeQuack,
      You should be fine and brush it off as its in the past now and don't let anxiety take hold.
      Im sure it won't cause and problem other than a little spike and stay calm and relax and tomorrow is a new day .
      Stay positive ....lots of love glynis
       
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    3. Natalie Roberts
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      Natalie Roberts Member Benefactor

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      USA
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      10/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Pregnancy or mild hearing loss.. Who knows.
      I agree. It's already over and you can't do anything about it now anyway :( stressing about it won't help anything and may actually make your t worse. Try to relax. I think you will be okay :)
       
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    4. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      Thanks, but I just can't get the loud sound out of my head, it was so piercing. Because of the nature of small spaces it made it all so much worse. Man how could I be so dumb.
       
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    5. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

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      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Do everything you can do to relax and stay calm.
      Don't let anxiety make it worse and keep going over it in your mind.
      I know its hard but play some natural sounds to refocus your brain on another sound ....hope it helps...lots of love glynis
       
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    6. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      I'll try but if this thing raises my tinnitus I'll never be able to forgive myself.
       
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    7. Nick Pyzik
      Depressed

      Nick Pyzik Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/23/15
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to in-ear headphones & playing in a band
      QUACK

      Do you have an introductory post about how you got your Tinnitus I could read? Or if you want to just explain it in a short summary to me.
       
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    8. DudeMannDude
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      DudeMannDude Member

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      It was an accident, I don't understand why you would be so hard on yourself. It was not like you intentionally did something dangerous. You just dropped something, it is not like you stuck your head into a dimed guitar amp. This is not something to beat yourself up over!

      I know an increase would be an awful thing, but if it did not happen immediately I doubt it is going to happen. I was at band practice, and we had just finished up, so I took out my ear plugs to pack up my bass and start gathering all my cables. One of my bandmates tripped over a cable, causing it to rip out of the mixer. That blast of feedback knocked me well on my ass, it had to have been at least over one hundred decibels.

      So after I finished cussing this poor guy and then apologizing to him, it was an accident after all, I noticed that my ears were totally fine. The next day, fine as well. Any time I have had a noise induced increase it has been instantaneous. Do not sweat it man. Take some magnesium, B vitamins, and NAC and it will be okay!
       
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    9. linearb
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      linearb Member Hall of Fame

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      East Coast USA
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      1998
      100 db for a half a second will not do permanent damage to your hearing system. Neither will 100 db for 5 minutes.

      Obsessive anxiety is a much bigger concern. You seem to already know that, because of what you named this thread.

      I accidentally turned on earbuds yesterday with the volume on my phone maxed, oops. That was probably your 100db, and then some. I thought about it for about sixty seconds afterwards and then not again until just now. Two years ago, I would have been in a panic all afternoon... You're going to be fine.
       
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    10. Telis

      Telis Member Hall of Fame

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      So how much worse is your tinnitus after that incident? Or are you freaking out just becasue thats what you do? What is the purpose of going back and measuring after the incident? Doesn't that seem a little strange to you? What could you possibly accomplish by doing this?
       
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    11. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      Well I don't really know the cause, just pooped up one day when I was first trying out ear plugs because of the neighbors. But it wasn't bothersome at first, today it's a totally different beast with multiple tones, reactive and probably some hyperacusis.
       
    12. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      Thanks for the post, yeah it wasn't intentional obviously but my personality is such that I just obsess over it, wish I didn't. I think what made it worse is that it was in an elevator with the reverberations, because it makes any sound sound so much louder.
      I did take some NAC, but one has to wonder if that stuff really does anything.
       
    13. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      Thanks for the support. It might have been louder, since sudden sounds are hard to measure with a home sound meter, you would need a more expensive one with peak measurement. 100dB is weighted over 125ms, or the fast setting on the sound meter. But when testing I worse some in-ear headphones, so not actual ear plugs and it was still within my level of comfort the sound.
       
    14. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      It's hard to say lately, because my T keeps changing from day to day, I might have a terrible day or I might have a good day and it's quite hard to tell whether it was because of some sudden noise or just random. Today is somewhat worse in my left ear but I've had other day that it was worse as well.

      I guess the point of measuring was my way of trying to calm myself by measuring if it really was as loud as I thought it was. Sometimes the meter shows less than I thought and it makes me more at ease I guess. It's definitely not normal though.
       
    15. Owen
      Disappointed

      Owen Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unclear. Inflammatory allergic reaction/AIED
      Absolutely spot on.

      NIOSH gives 100dBSPL for 15 minutes as safe and they will always err on the side of caution. It is extremely unlikely that you have caused any damage, just a temporary spike.
       
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    16. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

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      United States of Europe
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      Bad luck and bad genes
      Well hopefully that is the case. But in my mind it sounded so loud I was almost paralyzed for a second.
       
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    17. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

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      I'm sure you meant popped up, but even so that's a much better word that you've used. Sums it all up well.
       
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    18. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

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      United States of Europe
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      It sure does.
       
    19. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Hall of Fame

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      Yeah, my T changes constantly to, sometimes in relation to obvious things, and sometimes just because my brain is random and wants to be more hyperactive some days than others.

      One thing is that lately, "good days" and "bad days" don't really have anything to do with T volume, pitch, or anything like that. Yeah, sure, when it's really at its shrieking worst to the point that it's hard to tolerate normal sounds / watch TV /etc, that's pretty obnoxious and I think about it more, but I don't actually let it keep me from doing anything, I just sort of accept that it's there and so I can either spend all my time thinking about it, or do my best to just carry on and trust that it's harmless.

      It's taken me, like, 15 years to get to that point though -- and I still struggle sometimes a lot more than others. But, at least some of the time I'm capable of having really obnoxious (for me) T and still not think about it more than 15 minutes a day, which would have been utterly unthinkable even a couple years ago. And, it seems like the days where that's the case, are more frequent and in longer patches than a few years ago.

      I have no idea what sounds you hear, LeQuack, or what else is going on for you, so I don't know how useful any of that is. I just think it's pretty interesting. My T is a constant-but-ever changing soundscape of 13-to-15khz sounds, and then some softer, more constant, lower frequency noise. Don't get me wrong, it's sort of a bummer and I wish I didn't have to deal with it, but the list of things I wish I didn't have to deal with is pretty much bottomless.

      edit: don't worry about 'normal'; I have a sound meter app on my phone, and a real dB meter that I take with me sometimes, because the world is fucking loud and I also like to have a reasonable grasp on how loud things actually are. If you'd said that you somehow managed to fall and cause a 150 db noise I would say "holy shit are you sure that thing is calibrated right? If so then you should go see an ENT!" -- but 100 db, while it is loud enough to be pretty uncomfortable and I am always irritated when someone slams a door or whatever -- seems really, really unlikely to be damaging. If it were, people would go deaf during thunderstorms. The airplanes that fly over my apartment, at their lowest, can hit ~92, and my motorcycle maxes out at 111. I certainly don't ride the thing without earplugs in and a helmet on, but I've revv'd it in the garage a couple times while working on it or whatever, and it's never been more than slightly annoying at the time.
       
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    20. Cyberdrink

      Cyberdrink Member

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      June 2015
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    21. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      That's what I'm hoping for but unfortunately today my T does seem higher in both ears, my left is more reactive than usual and the right one seems louder somehow. Hopefully it's just temporary.
       
    22. Nick Pyzik
      Depressed

      Nick Pyzik Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/23/15
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to in-ear headphones & playing in a band
      You haven't been to any loud events or listened to music that could of made things worse?
       
    23. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
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      Bad luck and bad genes
      No, not really. I mean we did go clubbing every now and then, but nothing excessive. I've never been the one to listen to loud music with earphones too. But then again who knows, my ears could be more sensitive and more easily damaged.

      As far this loud event goes I've calmed down a bit as far as obsessing over it. But the spike unfortunately is still there I'm afraid. Makes it a bit harder to sleep, since the louder T in my right ear bothers me, but the worst is the louder reactive T in my left ear, since the fan and other maskers make it go berserk now. Darnit.
       
    24. LeQuack
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      LeQuack Member Benefactor

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      United States of Europe
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      2005
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      Bad luck and bad genes
      I cannot get a break, I hate this world. Today I was in a store trying to do some quick food shopping when a worker there dropped a steel sheet he was trying to install on the floor. I was wearing those in-ear phones but they only block some 10dB of noise so it was still super loud. I wish everyone had tinnitus so they would just not do that.
       
    25. glynis-harbron
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      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

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      England, Stoke-on-Trent
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      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      Hi @LeQuack,
      Hope the rest of your day goes better .
      Im sure no damage has been done but not at all nice with tinnitus and Hyperacusis. ....lots of love glynis
       
    26. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      Thanks for the kind words, but seriously I don't know how much more of this I can take, it's every day and it's relentless.
       
    27. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      The frustrating thing is that I just don't know how to avoid these things. I mean it's not like I can predict future. If I had gone there a few seconds earlier/later than I would have missed it. But I guess that's true about anything. I should have maybe gone to the store not on Saturday when it's most crowded, I had a bad feeling from the start but I went anyway. Maybe wear actual ear plugs instead of just earphones? I don't know anymore, it's not like I can really avoid going to the store.
       
    28. glynis-harbron
      Feminine

      glynis-harbron Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Ambassador Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      England, Stoke-on-Trent
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Meniere's Disease
      I would try not over protect your ears as hyperacusis can get worse and loud sounds can become a phobia.

      We will all get out of the blue unavoidable loud sounds at some point but we need to react in a positive way.
      Tell yourself you are in control and walk away calming your self down breathing in and out slowly.
      I know for us with tinnitus we get worried or frightened the sound might spike our tinnitus but it would have to be really loud for a length of time to do any permanent damage ..
      Try not over protect your ears as the problem will get worse ...lots of love glynis
       
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    29. Michael2013
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      Michael2013 Member

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      September 2013
      I was just going to say this. It seems to me from reading this thread that there may be some phonophobia going on that is making the anxiety worse than it needs to be. This increased anxiety is, of course, going to make it seem like a spike. My tinnitus was far worse back in the days when I obsessed about it.

      -Mike
       
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    30. LeQuack
      Scared

      LeQuack Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States of Europe
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      2005
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad genes
      Well
      I've never been the one to use ear plugs anywhere before, not the gym or the store and so on. But I don't know what's been going on lately either it's my ears have become more sensitive or I am really having bad luck with so many of these loud incidents that I'm considering ear plugs in public. I mean never before have I been bombarded with so many unpleasant loud noises as I have been in the last few months it seems.
       
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