I Could Kick Myself for Not Stopping My Loud Dental Procedure

Discussion in 'Support' started by CMIH, May 10, 2019.

    1. Bill Bauer
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      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      You might want to stay away from all of the sounds that feel this way. If the hearing test felt painful, please consider not repeating it any time soon.

      There is still a chance that your hearing will improve. It is possible that your muffled hearing is not the result of hair cells dying, but a result of a full ear sensation that will eventually go away.
       
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Bill, thanks for the encouragement. I don't mean to be negative or unjustifiably pessimistic, but would full ear sensation loss look like this in a hearing test?

      audiogram.jpg
       
    3. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Could someone who thought they had hearing loss, but who has consequently experienced an improvement (I remember there were a number of you on this site) please respond to the above?
       
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    4. GSC
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Is that audiogram recent, taken after your dentist drilling?
       
    5. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Yes. Eleven days after the dentist appointment.
       
    6. GSC
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      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I don't think that's full ear sensation hearing loss, it's more in line with NIHL, but also, after your hearing test has your full ear sensation went away? No more muffled hearing and such? You also said your tinnitus got louder, that could play a part in not registering the beeps in the test.
       
    7. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I hadn't had a hearing test in many many years. In fact, I'm not certain I'd ever had one before. I never needed one because I never had hearing problems before, just mild tinnitus. So... Frankly, that noise shredded my hearing. This can't be the first time this has happened to someone. It's probably rare but not a first.
       
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    8. GSC
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      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      I haven't been on this forum a lot lately, so I missed this thread, I think. But has no one told you to try your hand at NAC and Magnesium? It's not a cure-all, but it can be protective of whatever hearing you have left. Hopefully with time and rest... your hearing can possibly improve....
       
    9. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I can hear. I just can't hear high frequencies which is making understanding speech on the phone and from TV more difficult to understand. It feels like there's is a "dead zone" in my hearing. And yes, the tinnitus is much louder. I don't know but I suspect when those hair cells are damaged they send "phantom" signals as if they are still being activated by sound vibrations, hence the constant tinnitus. Seems I read something to that effect somewhere but I can't be sure.
       
    10. GSC
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      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Hm, well, yeah, if you have that big of a noise notch on your regular audiogram - then there's no telling what your upper frequency looks like - probably... not so good too. Did they have you do a speech-in-noise test to find out?
       
    11. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      That's
      That's the first mention I've seen of NAC. Do you know if taking it orally is supposed to help, or does it have to be administered some other way? I can go pick it up a store today. It's worth trying. Although, it seems like the ENT would have mentioned it if she thought it was worth trying. I don't know.
       
    12. GSC
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      GSC Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      Orally is fine. It most likely won't do anything for the hearing loss you already suffered, but a lot of people here use them for loud noise exposures, so they're good to have on hand whenever you're wary. You can also take it as well just normally to have that protection.
       
    13. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      You've just described how my hearing was/is after developing tinnitus following a noisy microsuction procedure. All of those sounds like the birds outside my bedroom window, ambient street noise etc are now either non existant to me or so muffled/dull they seem to be coming from miles away. And then there's the tinnitus noise which is absolutely screaming.
       
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    14. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      I've experienced this first hand... My tinnitus/hyperacusis/hearing loss started the day after a loud microsuction procedure by an ENT. Try going to see another ENT to get help and mention what caused it...
       
    15. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Hi Blue. I'm sorry you're going through this too, but it's kind of comforting to know someone understands my experience of losing the environmental sounds we take for granted and usually ignore. I miss them now. What is a micro suction procedure for? How long ago was it done? How long did it last? Has your hearing improved?
       
    16. Blue28
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      Blue28 Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma from Microsuction
      Thanks @CMIH, I too miss those environmental sounds... A lot.

      Microsuction is a wax removal procedure done by ENTs and some audiologists where they put a small vaccum in your ear to suction the wax. It usually only lasts several minutes in each ear. Done incorrectly the noise of the suctioning can reach almost 150db. Having this done (3 years ago) was THE MOST traumatic experience of my life considering the concequences.

      My hearing did improve a little after several months but has subsequently worsened.

      Has anyone explained why you have symmetrical hearing loss in both ears after having the drilling done on only one side of your mouth? I also have this pattern of hearing loss.
       
    17. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Removing ear wax that ways seems totally unnecessary. There are drops they can put in to loosen it and then remove it physically or just let it dissolve on its own and flow out. It takes longer, but it works. Many years ago I even had a dentist remove it manually with some kind of tool. It hurt my ear canal like hell, in fact there was a little bleeding, but it worked. Didn't affect my hearing, though.

      As for why my hearing loss is symmetrical, the noise was equally loud in both of my ears, I think because it was from the vibration through my skull bone. I didn't notice it any louder in one ear than the other. The loudness was so off-the-charts I don't think I could distinguish the difference even if there had been one. It was just unimaginably, indescribably loud. I would describe it as violently loud.

      My hearing loss is so ----ing noticeable tonight. Worst yet. I feel like part of my hearing has been cut out. I turned on the TV and on PBS (Public Broadcasting System) they are having program in honor of Memorial Day. There were people singing and I just knew I wasn't hearing part of it. Very frustrating. I turned it off. Before this happened it would have sounded normal. Now it sucks.
       
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    18. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      This tinnitus is unrelenting. Maybe at least it's burning calories.
       
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    19. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I was just looking at The Positivity Thread. Great thread. I'm just not there yet, so don't read this if you're trying to say positive.

      I had some faint hope the Prednisone would help, but I wake up from sleeping and the first thing I immediately notice is the tinnitus, exactly the same as when I went to sleep. This is what happens sometimes when you make a really bad decision. You live with the negative consequences. I'm 54 and I can count on one hand the life decisions I truly regret, the decisions that negatively changed the course or quality of my life. (Not too many bad things have happened to me, and I don't normally make bad decisions. I try to use prudent judgment.) Now I have to add another one. At least that's how it feels at this point.

      Every morning I wake up to this loud squealing, every time I try to watch TV and can't make out what they're saying, every time I try to talk on the phone and have to really concentrate hard to understand what the caller is saying, every time I sense this "dead zone" in my hearing it hits me again. This really happened. Is happening. Will keep happening. SMH. I don't see an emoticon that really fits how I feel (n). We need a new emoticon. We need an emoticon that says, "This is it. This is the reality. It's not going away." A "resignation" emoticon, if you will. I picture an emoticon holding it's head in one hand. Not sad. Not droopy-eyed. Not weepy. Not angry. Just grim. That's where I am right now.

      PS. I'm not seeking attention ("hugs" and so forth). No reply expected. I just have a need to express what's happening. Maybe I should start a journal instead.
       
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    20. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Again I wake up in the middle of the night and the hearing loss is so noticable. The tinnitus blaring is bad enough, but the hearing loss, everything being quieter than it should be, is really upsetting. Imagine opening your eyes and everything is cloudy instead of clear.

      The way I feel right now if I could prove what that dentist did to my hearing I'd get a lawyer and sue. Imagine taking a "weed eater" to field of very fine grass. That's basically what he did to the hair cells in my cochlea. But I can't prove it. The damage is invisible. I have an "after" hearing test, but no "before" hearing test, so it's impossible to quantify the damage. It's a lonely feeling knowing you've experienced something you can't measure or show or prove. It's just my subjective experience, my word against the likely skepticism of health professionals. So much damage in the space of about ten minutes, maybe less. SMH.

      Tomorrow I'm faxing my complaint to the my state's Board of Dental Examiners. What I wrote isn't that long, but it took me a few days to write it because I wanted to make abundantly clear what happened and how it's affected my hearing. I can just imagine a dental examiner reading :bookworm: it thinking, "There's nothing provable here. Nothing to see. Next." The reply I get something like, "After reviewing the matter, we find no evidence if unprofessional behavior or deviation from standard dental practices yada yada yada." And that will be that. Case closed.

      The best I hope for is that it makes this dentist think twice about continuing to work in a patient's mouth the next time a patient complains of severe noise in their ears so he doesn't f.u. someone else's hearing for life.
       
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    21. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I know exactly how you feel. I also made a really bad decision that ended up in me getting T.

      As for your case, there is Still a chance that eventually it will begin to gradually fade...
      You will have a reason to feel this way only if there is no improvement in the next 6-12 months...
       
    22. Alue
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      Alue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Do you have a before audiogram to compare it to?

      I'm really sorry the dentist has caused your hearing to worsen so much.

      Your profile says you have had tinnitus for 20 years. Have you had setbacks or worsenings before this most recent one? Have you always had hyperacusis with your tinnitus?
       
    23. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      @Alue

      No I had not had any hearing tests in recent years. There was no need. I didn't notice any problems heading. The tinnitus that started in the late 90s was mild and I habituated to it to the point I only noticed it occasionally. It didn't very and wasn't intrusive. I've never had hyperacusis before. Had never even heard of it.
       
    24. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Well it's done. I just faxed off the complaint form. Maybe it will help prevent this from happening again to someone else.
       
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    25. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I am having a really hard time focusing at work. The high pitched squealing is so loud it's distracting. My ears still hurt and I just don't feel well. I started tapering down on the Predisone yesterday. Maybe that's it.
       
    26. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Again I awake in the middle of the night to blaring squealing and very noticable nothingness whereas before I could hear environmental sounds. It's like God's in-your-face-way of saying,"Again, behold what you've done to the beautiful gift of hearing I gave you!" Yeah... No, I don't really think God, if there is one, has time to bother with my hearing damage. Instead he's probably like, "I gave them all this... and this is how they take care of it it. SMH".
       
    27. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Psychologically my mind/brain rejects this hearing loss. It's like, "No. It can't be. Something should be there."
       
    28. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I did not know tinnitus could be this freaking loud. And the lonely thing about it is that no one will ever understand how loud my tinnitus is or how loud your tinnitus is or what either of our tinnitus sound like because we can only hear our own. In my left ear I now have like a variable pitch ringing in addition to the squealing. That's new.

      Oh I went to that dentist's office today to pick up the crown I paid for. Now I have to try to find another dentist to mount it.
       
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    29. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I do not want to be a member of this club. I did not ask to be a member of this club. I did not enroll myself in this club. :banghead:

      I'm supposed to be focused on other problems right now. Normal problems. Instead I'm focused on the screams and babblings of mortally wounded hair cells. What do hair cells look like after a 10+ minutes 100 dB resonance earthquake created by a dentist's drill cutting away enamel? (it's impossible to know how loud it actually was). My immune system is probably confused about what to do with them. Immune system: "Hmm. These things look kind of familiar but I'm not sure (n). I think they used to be arranged differently, organized. And they were longer. Definitely longer. And I don't remember there being so many pieces lying about. What happened in here?"

      All the king's horses,
      And all the King's men,
      Could not put Chuck's hearing
      Back together again.
       
    30. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Don't assume the worst. Give it another 2-3 months.
       
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