I Could Kick Myself for Not Stopping My Loud Dental Procedure

Discussion in 'Support' started by CMIH, May 10, 2019.

    1. Lane

      Lane Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxic Drug
      I haven't checked on that as of yet. I'm not feeling any urgency to either. If I go past the limit, so be it. I'll take it as it was something that wasn't meant to happen. I'm pretty detached about the whole thing at this point.

      I've not done any research on this, but would it be possible to get a specialized phone that translates voice into text, so that you can read what people are saying? We have a Charter answering machine that sends recorded messages to my email in text. I'm pretty impressed how accurate it is.

      I also think some degree of recovery is possible, if not likely. But given the severity of your situation, it may not be 100%. But if it can improve to where your neurological system can handle it better, that would surely be a blessing. There are a number of things that I feel could support that improvement, like targeted nutrition, acupuncture, etc.

      It's been a long process for me, and I'm not sure I'm 100% there on the forgiveness front. I don't dwell on it too much, and it actually might be more accurate to say I've learned to let it go, instead "forgiving" them. It will be telling when I get around to reviewing some of the correspondence that took place in the weeks immediately afterwards. -- I don't think forgiveness (or letting go) is something that can be rushed, so I would recommend you not put pressure on yourself to make that kind of leap.

      It's been 16 months post-onset for me now, and though I feel much more stable than in the beginning, I'm still learning how to best navigate this all. I've learned a number of things, and have at least gotten to the point where I can feel a bit more patient with the process, instead of feeling so desparate, angry, and overwhelmed like I was in the beginning. -- I hope things can begin smoothing out for you to some degree soon. -- Take care!
       
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    2. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      As if my tinnitus were not bad enough already, now I'm getting an intermittent "cricket" sound in my right ear. It happens for a second and then stops. Up until now it's been just an extremely high pitch tone in both ears. I sure hope it doesn't start continuously because .. I don't know if can handle that.
       
    3. Lane

      Lane Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxic Drug
      Hey @Daniel Lion -- Sorry about the delay in getting back to you. I just talked with my acupuncturist, and he said the three main points that he did on me, and that he generally uses for those kinds of ear issues are:

      Gall Bladder - 2
      Gall Bladder - 20
      Triple Warmer - 17

      I just had another session doing those three points, and we did some sinus points as well. In the last 24 hours, my sinuses have flared up, which corresponded with a temporary spike in my tinnitus. I've long wondered if my sinuses are affecting my tinnitus, and I'm curious to see what happens with this latest approach.

      I had a lot of shifts and changes for the first six to nine months or so. Each time it happened, it would sort of freak me out. Unfortunately, it seems those kinds of shifts are not all that unusual. Luckily, most of mine were not significant, or they didn't last very long. Now 16 months in, I'd say my baseline is 10%+ better, but my ability to cope with it all is probably 50%+ better. -- I anticipate further subtle changes, and have a sense I'll know what a more stable baseline will be at about the 2-year mark.
       
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    4. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      What was the medication?
       
    5. Lane

      Lane Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxic Drug
      It was an anitcholinergic drug called Promethazine, also known as Phenergen. I described my experience in detail on this thread: -- From Active Sufferance to Passive Sufferance

      Here's the gist of how it affected me (from my post at the above link):

      It [Promethazine] was given to me as an anti-nausea medication, but wasn't told that it was initially formulated as an antipsychotic drug, AND, had the potential to induce psychotic episodes. I don't know if that's what happened to me, but what I experienced was something at least resembling it. I awoke the following morning with not only screeching, unbearable tinnitus, but had thoughts/images/emotions, etc, racing through my system at about 20-30x the normal pace.

      My body was flush red, and remained so for many days. My balance was greatly affected, I had horrible twitching muscles and other muscle pain and spasms. My eyes and eyesight went haywire for a few days, could hardly eat, couldn't sleep for more than 5 minutes at a time, and when I did, woke up to my tinnitus being about 3x louder. Unbelievably, there was much more, including intense feelings of ADD, ADHD, extreme anxiety, depression, etc.
      Below is a brief product description of Phenergan from THIS SITE, along with a list of possible side effects. I'll underline the ones I experienced, many of which I'm still experiencing--again, from just a single dose. Notice that under "Less Serious", they list "ringing in your ears". -- AAargh!

      .......................................................................................

      Product Description -- PHENERGAN 25MG

      Common use

      Phenergan is an antihistamine used to treat different types of allergy symptoms, including itching, runny nose, sneezing, itchy or watery eyes, hives, and itchy skin rashes. It works by decreasing the effects of histamine, a chemical the body releases in response to certain irritants. Also Phenegran is used as a sedative and sleep aid for all types of patients and prevent or control nausea and vomiting, treat motion sickness. You can use it with other medications, for pain after surgery also.

      Possible side effect

      They may include an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat. Also the most possible side effects include:

      twitching, or uncontrollable movements of your eyes, lips, tongue, face, arms, or legs;
      tremor (uncontrolled shaking), drooling, trouble swallowing, problems with balance or walking;
      feeling restless, jittery, or agitated;
      high fever, stiff muscles, confusion, sweating, fast or uneven heartbeats, rapid breathing;
      feeling like you might pass out;
      seizure (convulsions);
      pale skin, easy bruising or bleeding, fever, sore throat, flu symptoms;
      decreased night vision, tunnel vision, watery eyes, increased sensitivity to light;
      hallucinations, agitation;
      nausea and stomach pain, skin rash, and jaundice (yellowing of the skin or eyes);
      urinating less than usual or not at all;
      joint pain or swelling with fever, swollen glands, muscle aches, chest pain, vomiting, unusual thoughts or behavior, and patchy skin color; or
      slow heart rate, weak pulse, fainting, slow breathing (breathing may stop).

      Less serious include:

      dizziness, drowsiness, anxiety;
      blurred vision, dry mouth, stuffy nose;
      ringing in your ears;
      weight gain, swelling in your hands or feet;
      impotence, trouble having an orgasm; or
      constipation.
       
    6. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
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      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Wow! That is incredible. Phenergan is very commonly prescribed for nausea. Your body's extreme reaction to it must be very rare. Incredible.

      I wonder if since you are obviously "allergic" to phenergan that means you are likely allergic to other specific medications or all anti-cholergenic medications? Do you know?
       
    8. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I awoke at 2 AM. I still can't believe this is happening, that I am now partially deaf. That's how I would describe it. I have this huge dead zone in my hearing now. The tinnitus is annoying as hell, but it's the hearing loss that kills me.:( Yesterday was my birthday. I have an appointment with a psychologist next week.

      It's a good thing I'm not a violent person.
       
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    9. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      BTW, Prednisone causes acne or makes you more susceptible to it.
       
    10. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Every night it's the same thing. Sleep for an hour or two then wake up for an hour or so, then sleep again for an hour or two and wake up. This is the second time I've woken up tonight. It's 3:48 am. Ugh.
       
    11. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Hopefully months from now you will feel better (if not because of your body healing itself, then as a result of Lenire working)...
       
    12. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Tinnitus destroyed me. The stress and anxiety ruined my teeth and my life.

      I'm supposed to visit a dentist today. Now, I don't want to. :(
       
    13. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Pete, what happened during my dental visit must be extremely rare. That such a thing would happen and that someone would sit there an allow it to happen (like the idiot I was) makes it even more rare. So don't stress about it. Just use your judgment while you're at the dentist office. Chances are nothing bad will happen and you'll get through it just fine.
       
    14. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I didn't know what "Lenire" was. I just googled it. I think I will habituate to the tinnitus eventually. What has me so upset/depressed/angry/and just generally screwed-up is the hearing loss.
       
    15. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Search this site!
       
    16. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      I hope so and I really appreciate your reply.

      The anxiety and stress of my tinnitus made me clench so much, it removed a filling and I think I have a jaw problem now (misalignment, probably?).

      Among other things which I am worried about. :(

      I can't manage stress. I should have tried something before and now I am scared as I am trying to treat the untreatable. :(
       
    17. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I guess I'm going to have to get a hearing aid. Not hearing clearly is just too frustrating. I'm trying to watch a movie but it's useless.
       
    18. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Hopefully once you have that, you will worry a lot less about your hearing loss.
       
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      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I think I'm about past the disbelief phase. This is just the new f****d-up reality I have to live with. :meh: The tinnitus is still loud but there are times now when I don't notice it or think about it and I don't have the same anxiety about it. BTW, I'm purposely not using white noise or anything like that to try to mask it because from what I understand that can make it more difficult to habituate. But I know everyone is different so...
       
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    20. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      yes, I believe Sensorinueral hearing loss gets better over the course of months when the some of the nerves grow back, but the hair cell death is permanent. However we have no clue on the statistics or how well good recoveries happens from case to case.

      I wish there was more research on why hearing does come back. People get better and don't stick around on the forums to report good news, that's the problem.
       
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    21. AUTHOR
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      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      So as I mentioned in a previous post, I picked up the crown from the dentist's office because I'm not going back to him after what happened. I found another dentist who was willing to seat the crown. Of course I explain to her what had happened. She seated time crown as far as she could, but when I tried to put my teeth together the only two teeth that touched were the crown and the tooth directly below it. That meant the dentist had to remove some of the porcelain from the new crown so I could buy down normally. As soon as you she started using the drill I got that loud screeching noise in my ears again. I stopped her immediately and told her what was happening. So she preceded in short bursts instead of continuously which I was able to tolerate better, but it was still not good.

      My main point is that there is apparently something unique about the anatomy of my head that results in the vibrations causing screeching in my ears. For some reason the vibrations cause some kind of resonation or something. I don't know. It's weird. I don't know if the same thing would happen if another tooth was worked on. It's just bizarre. The dentist said she had never heard of this happening before.
       
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    22. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      How are you feeling now? What tooth is it? Have you considered extracting it?
       
    23. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      How am I feeling? My tooth (crown really) is fine not. The work is done. I don't anticipate ever having that tooth worked on again, so there's no reason to have it extracted.

      But I still have hearing loss which I'm sure is permanent.
       
    24. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      You need to wait 6-12 months...

      It sounds like the procedure this week hasn't caused a spike.
       
    25. Luman
      Artistic

      Luman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Brooklyn
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      You were right to try another dentist, but perhaps you should call or see your original one, and tell him what you told us as it now seems that he was not directly responsible through incompetence, for your ear problems.
       
    26. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      CMIH

      CMIH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I notified the board of dental examiners since I had submitted a formal complaint against the dentist. However, I still believe he should have stopped when he saw how much pain I was experiencing because it was obviously not normal.
       

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