Lenire — Bimodal Stimulation Treatment by Neuromod

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by Tinnitus Talk, Apr 20, 2019.

    1. BobDigi
      Kick ass

      BobDigi Member

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      5.6.14
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      I'm pretty sure being skeptical of a device that sells to desperate people for 2000 dollars and is being hailed as a breakthrough, isn't the same as being a flat earther!

      If anything the comparison to a flat earther should be aimed more at the person who has only done research online, and is a believer and willing to pay 2000 dollars on something they don't know whether or not it works.

      There are thousands of devices on the market that don't work.
       
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    2. dayma
      Pacman

      dayma Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/6/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      UNKNOWN
      Just because someone had an appointment before Allan does not mean they are getting their device before him. Who knows what their personal schedules were? Maybe they had travel options, work, or other responsibilities that did not let them get the device on an exact date.
       
    3. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Option 1 is definitely a total of €2150 @annV

      I've got the paperwork in front of me. €250 consultation, €1900 on pick up/training day
       
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    4. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Sounds like there's a few of us all going on the same day. We can have a big tinnitus group hug.
       
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    5. Kam75

      Kam75 Member

      Location:
      FRANCE
      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced trauma in 2014 and 2019+ototoxic drug in 2020
      I've filled the form yesterday for an appointment. I've been having this sh*tty tinnitus for 5 months now. I'm just 28 years old, I don't want to live all my life with this :cry:

      I hope that people who already have the device and are not commenting are people who feel better now and no longer want to keep on spending time in this forum.
       
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    6. Annpann

      Annpann Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ear infection
      The first ones have only just received their devices so will have nothing to report yet.
       
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    7. Bob den Hartog

      Bob den Hartog Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice induced
      How many of these thousands of devices that are on the market, have had scientific research done examining long term and reproducible effects in over 500 patients? How many of them are based upon a principle of treatment that has also proven outstanding results in separately conducted studies in the US, by other universities? And how many of them have presented their results in extensive presentations, showing transparently their proven results? And how many have had several verified and trusted users all claiming the tinnitus went away completely or was significantly reduced, due to treatments based on this very principle?

      Or did you not yet find any of this information, due to your ‘haven’t done much research’, before typing sentences like ‘this screams fake’ and ‘a person who has done only research online and is a believer willing to pay 2000 dollars”?

      You’re in a thread of people following this for months, if not longer, who have all seen the hour+ Q&A done with the Neuromod founder, gone through their presentations, and have been extensively gathering data. Allow yourself to be informed by them before saying things like “fake”.
       
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    8. Nanny chocolate

      Nanny chocolate Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Devon
      Tinnitus Since:
      1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unbelievable caused by audiologist!
      @Allan1967

      Thanks Allan.

      There seems to be a lot of doom laden posts about Lenire on here. If we have the money and are not getting into debt then why not give it a go. I’m going next week for 2.15 pm appt on 23rd.

      I’m under no desperate delusion that it will be a miracle cure. It’s an experiment that might help somewhat or maybe not at all.

      I’m 70, still working and it’s worth a chance.

      I absolutely think you are doing the right thing by trying it.

      Eve
       
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    9. F-u-T

      F-u-T Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      AZ USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trama
      What have you read to come to this conclusion? Enlighten us with your superior intellect thou art Wise One.
       
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    10. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1997
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      There will likely be a cure in your lifetime. I got mine at your age.
       
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    11. TnH

      TnH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma and Acoustic Shock
      When is the 1st person on here getting their device?
       
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    12. spedgas
      Scared

      spedgas Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Well said. Thanks for taking the time to write this. I first heard about this technology/product in September or October of last year. Nearly everyday since then I’ve dedicated time to reading any new information that was available. During that time I emailed both Hubert Lim and Susan Shore.

      At least he was honest in stating he hadn’t done any research. He didn’t need to say that though. It was obvious as soon as I started reading his post.
       
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    13. Clearance

      Clearance Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Tomorrow.
       
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    14. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      Who?
       
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    15. Clearance

      Clearance Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Me!
       
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    16. Phi

      Phi Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Noise
      Good luck!
       
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    17. BobDigi
      Kick ass

      BobDigi Member

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      5.6.14
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud noise
      Just wait a year and we'll see who's right. I hope you are. But to me it seems to be another overpriced machine that offers nothing but the possibility to relieve people of their cash.

      Abs toning belts were meant to be a breakthrough for people wanting a flat toned stomach.
       
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    18. ChrisBoyMonkey

      ChrisBoyMonkey Member

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      I think it's safe to just ignore this guy now.
       
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    19. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      Can you comprehend what @Bob den Hartog said above and what I copy below?

      After reading it, shut up and move on. Nobody wants to read your 12-year-old level arguments. You haven't even bothered learning about what bimodal stimulation is. To compare it to fake scam devices is laughable.

      How many of these thousands of devices that are on the market, have had scientific research done examining long term and reproducible effects in over 500 patients? How many of them are based upon a principle of treatment that has also proven outstanding results in separately conducted studies in the US, by other universities? And how many of them have presented their results in extensive presentations, showing transparently their proven results? And how many have had several verified and trusted users all claiming the tinnitus went away completely or was significantly reduced, due to treatments based on this very principle?

      Or did you not yet find any of this information, due to your ‘haven’t done much research’, before typing sentences like ‘this screams fake’ and ‘a person who has done only research online and is a believer willing to pay 2000 dollars”?

      You’re in a thread of people following this for months, if not longer, who have all seen the hour+ Q&A done with the Neuromod founder, gone through their presentations, and have been extensively gathering data. Allow yourself to be informed by them before saying things like “fake”.
       
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    20. spedgas
      Scared

      spedgas Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Certainly you can tell the difference between what Neuromod is doing and an ab toning infomercial that’s on tv at 3am.
       
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    21. F-u-T

      F-u-T Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      AZ USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trama
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      My Ab toning belt worked great! 3 easy payments of $29.99 plus S&H. Order in the next 20 minutes to receive the free butt toner belt. A free $79.99 value.
       
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    22. Skinjob
      Batty

      Skinjob Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Early 90s
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bowie, The Chameleons, etc.
      And thanks for the dry heaves. For the love of God.
       
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    23. zhiyuan
      Depressed

      zhiyuan Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

      Location:
      China
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      sudden hearing loss
      Does anyone know whether Lenire works on tinnitus with hearing loss? I got my tinnitus from sudden hearing loss in high frequencies and the tinnitus is high pitched which is rather annoying.
       
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    24. Redknight

      Redknight Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Lisburn, N.Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      OMG that was you!? I was reading that and thinking 'this woman sounds just like Allan' LOL
       
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    25. Redknight

      Redknight Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Lisburn, N.Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      My guess is that Neuromod are awaiting the first shipment of the devices for these initial users, which would explain why we are all getting dates around mid July.
       
    26. Redknight

      Redknight Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Lisburn, N.Ireland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      What time are you there, my appt is at 15:45.
       
    27. PeterPan
      Nerdy

      PeterPan Member Advocate

      Location:
      Sydney
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Heat Exhaustion
      OK, five surveys sent out to the early participants. We are sending the survey approximately one or two weeks in advance of the estimated fitting date.

      If you haven't done so already, it would be very helpful if you could send me your initial assessment date or fitting date (either PM me or respond to the introductory email I sent out earlier).

      A big thank you @Hazel and @Markku for all the work on the survey!
       
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    28. PeterPan
      Nerdy

      PeterPan Member Advocate

      Location:
      Sydney
      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Heat Exhaustion
      Yes, Clearance has previously told us in the forum his initial appointment was 18/6. Allan and Cojackb have also told us in the forum that 25/6 and 26/6 were their initial appointment dates!
       
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    29. tarmaced
      Wtf

      tarmaced Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2004 (mild) 2018 (not so mild)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infections, compounded by noise exposure
      Just joined this thread from the dark of the research section. I am a skeptic about everything, but I hope to hell you guys find peace through this and will be following work an open mind! I'll follow soon after it we see it working :)

      I'm interested if anyone with NIHL had been found to be unsuitable for this system in the consultation?
       
    30. Tomas80

      Tomas80 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknow. Maybe stress?
      Does anyone know when Lenire will be available in Regensburg (Germany)? I have very loud and high pitched tinnitus :( Thanks.
       
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