Low Bass-Like Hum, As If Something Was Vibrating Inside My Ear: Is This Tinnitus or Something Worse?

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by pony, Oct 13, 2020.

    1. pony

      pony Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      So about 2 years ago I moved to a new city, without any ear issues at all. But gradually as time has progressed I've developed this low bass-like hum in my left ear, that actually feels like something inside is vibrating wildly. It's like I have a car idling inside my ear.

      Initially it wasn't that noticeable and it would only stick around for a week and then disappear for weeks or a month. Within the last 6 months it's been getting really bad, and has been around more often than not. Not only has it been "on" but it's been getting much much louder. This last week it had not gone away at all, it's the loudest it has ever been and I'm beginning to not be able to relax unless i have a fan on to block the noise.

      Some interesting things about my hum: It completely goes away when I say something, but then immediately comes back when I'm done. It seems worse when I just get out of the car after driving for a few minutes. It goes away if I plug the ear or put on ear protection. It seems to vanish when I have either a fan, or really any constant noise on in the background, but will return when the other noise is gone. It has a rhythm to it, but is not consistent and doesn't go with my heartbeat.

      I have been to a couple audiologists and to an ENT, and both say my ears look healthy and there's no hearing loss. The ENT said it was just early aging of my ear, which wasn't helpful at all. Based on what they said I just have to learn to live with it.

      I'm terrified at the prospect of having to deal with this forever, and am having some serious stress and anxiety about it. I don't know what to do about it or who to ask for help. It's been stopping me from doing the things I love like camping, because I can't be in a quiet environment or the hum takes over.

      Does this sound like tinnitus, or possible some other ear dysfunction?
       
    2. HeavyMantra
      Bugridden

      HeavyMantra Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Intrusive and debilitating since 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      This is a weird one, and it's something that some of us on the forum have experienced. I have this permanently now on a pretty low level, but about 6 times I've had these "attacks" that start instantly, where the sound is SO LOUD that if it becomes permanent, that would be the end of me.

      Fortunately, these attacks have subsided every time so far. And in general, what people with this type of tinnitus has reported is that it seems to come and go.

      Nobody really knows what this is I think. I've been meaning to ask the knowledgeable @Greg Sacramento about it because in my case at least, I think it has to be some kind of muscle spasm in the ear. If you read this Greg, it's a very low hum (distant idling truck/machinery) in one ear that unlike my usual tinnitus really sounds like it's IN that ear. I also have TTTS spasm in this ear and this ear only.

      The fact that it stops when we talk is the weirdest part.

      It's tinnitus because it produces a subjective sound. But DO NOT let doctors convince you of anything, because they won't know much about this most likely. Only having this sound but no hearing loss would, in my mind, indicate that this is not noise-induced tinnitus. Finding out the true cause won't be easy. Dealing with your stress/anxiety is the first thing to do, although I know it's not easy
       
    3. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @HeavyMantra With a hum, I could post a hundred study links where subject matter goes into many different directions.

      Some key thoughts for discussion of blood flow versus ear muscles:
      @pony and HeavyMantra - Blood flow to ear muscles even with if it doesn't go with heartbeat is possible with everything that you mention. One way to determine (cutting to the chase beyond endless medical study discussion) is were you saying to yourself - da da - da da da --- before hearing your actual hum for the first time?

      If you were repeating da, da to yourself, before ever hearing a hum, then it's pulsatile tinnitus. Age, circulation, blood pressure - brief periods where blood pressure increases would have involvement. This involvement could be simple or complex. Questions would be what is your age, do you abdominal pain - the aortic area or any vision/eye concerns?

      With brief moments of severe blood pressure hypertension, any atherosclerosis can be sent to the carotid arteries. Fibromuscular dysplasia can be a concern and this could associate to all your mentions with influence to ear muscles. If older than 60, aortic regurgitation when the aortic valve doesn't close completely can occur causing a hum. There's lots of possible vascular associations, but any atherosclerosis needs to be considered with being over age 40. For those under 40-50, humming may just be an ear association.

      If never a da da and no problems mentioned above - no hypertension/atherosclerosis, then it's probably ear muscles, an involved subject, where only the latest research has validity. I had posted the latest research studies on this - but I would need to locate them.
       
    4. HeavyMantra
      Bugridden

      HeavyMantra Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Intrusive and debilitating since 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I don't understand the part about "da da da"? Why would anyone but babies and russians say that? :)
      And what does it have to do with anything?

      So in my case according to what you wrote, mine would probably be ear muscle related. I've had constant involuntary spasms (right hand index finger, external anal sphincter) in my body for at least 12 years now, so it doesn't feel like a stretch to think that this could be yet another weird muscle spasm that comes and goes (the actual, palpable vibrating TTTS spasms). Though if the hum is related to the TTTS spasms, who knows. I think the spasms are TTTS but I'm not sure.

      Greg, let's say I took some muscle relaxants during one of my "attacks" and it stopped, would that point strongly to the hum being muscular/give me more clues to this? I guess most muscle relaxants also increase GABA and all that, so maybe that would makem it hard to draw conclusions.

      I think many people on the forum describing this type of hum (one ear, distant truck sounding, stops when speaking, stops when plugging ears for some) are well below 50-60.
       
    5. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      When a hum is heard, regardless of cause, there's often anxiety. Sensory awareness of a venous hum can happen with brain association before being heard. Processes within the nervous system control muscles as well as any input.

      Diastolic murmurs are not always pathologic, but a hum may be venous. Palpable vibrating TTTS spasms, may not be from a venous source. Is palpable TTTS spasming, your only concern as with having a hum, I don't know.
       
    6. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      pony

      pony Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      6/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      I'm 32, have no health issues, not overweight, don't have any chronic pain, and vision is good.

      I also have normal high pitched tinnitus, but that came within the last year and is in both ears.
       
    7. Backpacker

      Backpacker Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL
    8. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      @HeavyMantra Remember me saying this in a conversation that we had several months ago. You had a few things going on that might pertain to this. "The eardrum has three bones behind it to sort out Morse-code sound. If the bones get stuck and the muscles that work with the bones, humming can also happen." Now with consideration to your mention of palpable vibrating TTTS spasms, I wonder a bit more.

      Just trying to be helpful as TTTS is not an area that I know much about. My few areas of knowledge from employment, research and personnel experience: Hypertension blood pressure that causes issues and these issues causing pulsatile tinnitus. Vein and artery disease. Diseases and conditions of the neck, mouth and jaw. Whiplash.
       
      • Informative Informative x 1
    9. Greg Sacramento

      Greg Sacramento Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      syringing and now somatic T dental work
      I placed this along with your complaints - history including morse code into a complexed medical data base. Narrowing down was bones that may cause muscle contractions. Most common places are right hand index finger - metacarpals - phalanges that weigh on muscles, bones behind eardrum that weigh on tensor tympani muscle (a mention by self above) and external anal sphincter muscles - spine.

      Conclusion that I got: Cause if all are bothersome is decreased concentration of calcium in the blood. May also be low vitamin D and magnesium and sometimes high B12. Dehydration may also accompany or be a reason.

      Medical data bases are not absolute.
       
    10. Foamearplugssuck
      Depressed

      Foamearplugssuck Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/26/19
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Doing concert photography
      Just started to experience this last night. I usually have a very low/mild rumble in my right ear, but lately its sounded like I have a truck engine in my ear. It gets worse the closer I get to bedtime, so sleep is a nightmare.

      It seems to be connected to some neurological issues Ive been dealing with. Ive been tentatively diagnosed with vestibular migraines, and my episodes worsen at night, as I'm getting ready to sleep as well. The worse I feel, the louder the rumble.
       

Share This Page

Loading...