Marijuana / Cannabis and Tinnitus

I haven't done much weed but usually I just get a little numb and sick.
Same with this

 

Has anyone smoked the Marijuana that has had most of the THC removed so there is much higher content of Cannabidiol(CBD)? I would like to at least try it but not with a higher THC level. For me the THC in marijuana simply makes everything worse. Benzos don't work and all i'm looking for is something that will relax me and besides everything I have read about it says it's safe unlike the benzos out there. Thanks for your input. Appreciate it.

 

If you smoke weed, use a vaporize, like storz and bickel's Volcano, your lungs will thank your, really.

 

Back in the day we always used a bong. Is a vaporizer better? I'm simply not up on all this stuff anymore. All I know is if you mention the word "pot" you are the Anti-Christ! But hey pop a few more Xanax pills and wash it down with the beer of your choice and your all set!! Legal or illegal I would buy any stuff that would help cope with this tinnitus bs.

 

I really think though they have stumbled onto something big with this CBD pot. I remember when my parents found out I use to smoke pot and they both were very surprised. This coming from a generation that smoked 2 packs a day and thought it was healthy. My guess is if I was able to get some CBD pot it probably won't give me the relief I need but legally I should have the right to at least try it.

 

A vaporizer is much better because there is no combustion. Also, if you really only want the CBD and not the THC, you adjust your vaporizer temp to 157C which will evaporate the THC and then, you rise the temp up to 180C to evaporate the CBD.


It is much better for the lungs and it gives you a tarless clean vapor.

 

Eric, Thank you for the reply. Have learned much from you. So are you saying that if I could get some pot(I can)today and it's the usual every day run of the mill pot with the higher THC level BUT smoked it with a vaporizer and all I would need to do is to adjust it to a temp of 157C and that will evaporate(elminate)the THC but that will give me the CBD pot that I would like to try? But if I raise the temp to 180C that would evaporate the CBD and that would really ruin the pot? No THC?

Now should I start to google vaporizers and eduacate myself on them or is there one that you prefer? Please if you don't want to answer here on the board I would appreciate it if you could just send me a pm. I woke up with terrible tinnitus this morning and so that's how my pattern is. Like everyone on this site all i'm looking for is a way to cope with this crap on a daily basis. I don't need to tell you this tinnitus is torture. THANK YOU! John

 

If you only want the CBD:

1- Set the vaporize at 157C to Evaporate THC but don't inhale the vapor. You are then left with pot without much THC and all the CBD
2- Set the vaporize to 180C to evaporate de CBD and inhale that vapor which will containt the CBD. You are then left with pot without much CBD or THC.

Volcano Vaporizer by storz and bickels is the best in my humble opinion. Clean and fresh vapor (low temp). VOLCANO Vaporizer | Official Website of vaporizers made by Storz & Bickel

That said, I my case, pot does not make Tinnitus any better. But really, I don't mind my Tinnitus. It is only a noise. since it is part of me, the only way is to accept it fully and to not wish it would go away. If I notice it (and it is easy to notice since it is all I can hear in my left ear (see my profile for the sound of my T (information tab)), I just acknowledge it is there and go on with my life. Your Tinnitus is torture to you only because you make it so. You don't have much control over it so it is futile to center your life over controlling it. Instead of wishing it would go away, integrate it. Make it part of yourself, make it your companion, make peace with it because it is part of you. If you cannot be at peace with yourself, you will suffer.

-Eric

 

I support Marijuana use too.It has been proven to be effective for so many ailments. There are so many types of marijuana each used for different things. I wouldn't want to just get some off the street and assume that because it didn't work or made things worse that there isn't some form that could help. I didn't have a good experience as a teen with smoking, lol I got stupid, paranoid and was nauseous. I would hesitate to do ever use again. But if it was proven effective by someone with T and there were minimum side effects and Silenced the T for a significant amount of time, sign me up.

 

I realize my tinnitus is not going to improve. What I do is partially mask my tinnitus with my mp3 player and I listen to music or a masking track at a fairly low volume. My tinnitus is so high pitched I need that distraction. I'm retired so i'm lucky in the fact I don't work. I'm just looking for something that when I need to relax I can use something that will relax me.

Have tried alcohol and about every benzo they make but for me they don't give the relaxation i'm looking for and it's very easy to get into deep trouble with both alcohol or benzos. Fact is my tinnitus was very tame for about 4 years and it was very easy to live with. A few years back that all changed and today it is at very a high pitch and volume. It's one step from su******level. Tinnitus for 14 years now. Fact is it can get worse like mine has over the years and all i'm trying to do is stay one step ahead of it. Eric, Are you a regular user of pot?

 

Hello. New to the forum.

I did some research into this and this is what I found. First off the origination that has this strain turns it into an oil. I believe they call it Realm Oil. You can't contact them directly to to ask any questions. You have to sign up through email and they will provide instruction on how to proceed. The realm oil is concentrated CBD. I believe it's in the 99%. For comparison a normal weed consist of about 1% CBD. The reason is that CBD has almost been bread out of the plant because it doesn't have any pleasurable effects. If your buying regular weed you're not getting much CBD. CBD is the medical cannabinoid we are interested in. So anyway to even begin working with the organisation one needs to have a medical marijuana card. I don't have one. It can cost about $200 to $300 to get one and a tinnitus sufferer would have to be "in great pain" to get one since T is not a covered ailment. In addition to the red card you need to have permission to have a larger than normal "legal" amount of marijuana plants grown for you. See the organisation doesn't just keep the oil on hand. They actually grow what they need for each patient and apparently it takes a lot of plants to make the concentrate. This means you have to wait 6 to 8 months to get your oil. Of course to even get this far one would need to be approved by the organisation. That's the part I'm most concerned with and the reason I gave up trying. These guy are helping kid who are seriously ill. Why would they help a T sufferer who may or may not even be helped my the oil? Ideally it would be great to just contact them directly and ask to try it once and perhaps donate a few hundred dollars. That doesn't seem possible.

Now here is the good news. On January 1st anyone in Colorado,even visitors, can purchase weed legally. This very well could change the process that is used to get the oil. In the mean time there may be some other options. I've called around to a few shops and because of the sudden interest in CBD they are starting to carry CBD rich products. One shop had an edible that was 50% CBD and 50% THC. From everything I've read the THC makes T worse but who knows. It's certainly better than the 1 to 99 ratio in most products. Come January I'm going to give one of these a go.

Good luck all.

 

Venture, Thanks for the info. From what I have read pot was going to legal so anyone could buy it. So I was going to check when Colorado was going to allow anyone to buy it. You answered my question. Thanks!

 

Hey folks! I made an account JUST for this topic. I am a bit of a canna-connoisseur, smoked medical grade, dispensary cannabis regularly for 4 years up until I started having issues with my ears (over-exposure to sound and tons of stress). I haven't smoked regularly in over 7 months now, specifically because of tinnitus and depression (caused by tinnitus) which became an issue a year ago for me. Here's some answers to the questions you've been asking:

I have high-CBD strains because my aunt has brain cancer. I registered as a patient with her specifically to find that kind of cannabis to help treat her nausea and loss of appetite. Before I go any further--it works so well, she hasn't felt this good in weeks and is finally eating again. Never a weed smoker in her life before this. Fuck you FDA, federal government, and prescription drug lobbyists.

What I have (and she uses) is an 18% CBD strain that I recall reading has 1% THC. Regular weed has between 1 and 3% CBD, and roughly 10 to 15% THC. I had two puffs of the high-CBD strain off her vaporizer yesterday and yowzers it was a kick in the face after a 7 month break. Not a freakout high like with a high THC strain, just medicinal feeling like I took too much Nyquil or a painkiller.

The ringing actually was unchanged at first but by the end of the high it actually felt a bit worse than before. It's important to note I drove nearly 200 miles that day, dealing with my chemo'd aunt was emotionally stressful (seriously folks, cancer is a bummer), and I haven't been sleeping regularly this week. The CBD strain's effect could be completely unrelated! I am going to try catching up on my sleep and then taking another hit of the CBD strain to see if it makes a difference in my T. I can tell you I haven't laughed for no reason like that in a long time (which was great) and I slept like a log when I took a nap that afternoon. I even found myself emotionally relaxed and forgiving of some personal issues I've been holding onto over the past month or so.

Quick background: I have always had some level of tinnitus since I was a child, always in silence. After living in San Francisco for a year I found my hearing levels kind of fucked up and moved back to the suburbs to try and find some peace. It was really bad for about 6 months following a weird spike on a flight, and a death metal concert that was way too loud (despite foam earplugs, they were shitty). Since then I've been tested all the way up to 20,000 hz--don't have any significant hearing loss that would cause tinnitus. My ENT is confident it will go away after a few years, he even encouraged me to go back to concerts with musician's plugs. Thank God, they work great and I have my life back Just can't overload my hearing threshold anymore.

 

Plant based drugs are really incredible. I was just watching a story on the doctors tv show about a little girl who had dravet syndrome and she was having seizure after seizure, some 4 hours long. They tried everything medication wise. Her mother looked to medical marijuana. The plant was basically botanically made for her, with the compound she needs (cannebadiol) with low THC. It effects a certain part if the brain. It's made into an oil. They add it to her meal. Does not effect her like street stuff. They even named it after her. "Charlottes web". She still has seizures as that is part if the disease but no where the length or frequency. There are so many strains of marijuana there is no telling what it can do for tinnitus suffers in the future. Imagine what scientists, engineers, botanists, doctors, specialists even veterinarians could do if they put their minds together in an effort to cure diseases and conditions of all kinds. I think that is starting to happen.

 

I won't say it helps, if anything it makes me notice it more if I'm already worrying about it.

I also read somewhere that cannabis is one of the things you should avoid if you have tinnitus as it can make it worse.

Hasn't stopped me from smoking however, I just cut back when its noisy.

 

This thread is for the discussion of Marijuana as a cure or aid to tinnitus. Stop the stigma for medications. Please bring: personal stories, forward some links, or research you feel supports or refutes Marijuana's benefits for tinnitus.

 

I'm an aging Medic from two tours to Iraq. I worry about the future of my ears. Gun fire with and without ear plugs has damaged my ears. Also, I was subjected to living in tents and thin housing for long durations in which generators were on and above the Army noise standards! Between the loud pops constant noise pollution and perhaps my ear phones, while watching movies or gaming, it got worse. But after leaving the military I began smoking pot. For the most part this was dank or considered medical grade. Unknowingly over time my ringing in both ears decreased, for what I had considered perhaps normal reasons.
After finishing my Biology degree, I've quit for a duration of 1 months to help find a job. Now it is getting worse, persistently worse. I'm now more sensitive to loud noises, and it appears louder each day I wake up. My point is marijuana makes tinnitus symptoms fade. Be it an anti-inflammatory process, be it stress reduction, or nerve inhibition POT MADE IT BETTER. Tinnitus is hearing pain. NSAIDS make it worse. Coffee makes it worse. And I'm still addicted to cigarettes, worse.
My humble medical opinion and personal experience is after 2-3 times a day for 2 weeks any person with mild to moderate tinnitus WILL see an improvement (Disclaimer: I'm not a doctor, consult one before use, and abide by local laws). Pot is less toxic than any NSAIDs on the market. Has stress relief that will aid in healing, and has even been seen to improve lung function, regardless of being slightly a carcinogenic. So, my recommendation is the two week trial suggested, up to a month, or once a day, 1-3 hours before bed. If you have never smoked, know that is less harmful than alcohol, cigarettes, and the NSAIDS (Tylenol, aspirin, and so on...).

This link current 11/2013, Is Dr. Donald Tashkin's (MD) account of his longitudinal study on pot smoking and it's affects on health, particularly lung. As I feel this is the greatest detriment to a persons health could be their lungs. I've opted to start with information on that topic. He even relates that as cigarettes constrict the lungs, Marijuana dilates lung passage ways.

Dr. Donald Tashkin Marijuana Lung Cancer Study...

 

Am a daily weed smoker and Ill tell you it not that great of experience it does spike your T and gave me a anxiety attack.. so I put it it away till my inner ear affection healed up but it does help my imbalance n slight dizzyness from BPPV thought I weigh in

 

OMG now I know where the idea for the video game "Last of Us" must have come from...hahaha gross, thanks for the heads up!

 

But did you inhale?

 

It's about time the health government in each country took a long and hard look at substances that are classified as nonlegal narcotics today to see if they could legalize some of it for medical purposes, and I'm not just talking about soft drugs like herbs and stuff. After all, medication sold at the pharmacy have small portions of these banned substances in them for a reason, it's because they have positive medical properties. Both cocaine, opium, amphetamines, LSD, morphine, anabolic steroids, growth hormones etc are all drugs that hospitals store for emergency calls. Cocaine is used in skin surgery for instance as its the best substance to stop bleeding during an operation or in cases of sudden injury. If they found out that one of these narcotics would have very positive effect on T then I vote for it to be tested on humans! I would be the first in line to shoot up any drug if it carries the ability to decrease the volume of my T! They have been experimenting with some sort of dentist anesthetic containing a poison that removed the T levels to almost zero, so why don't they pursuit finding a safe method of extracting a proper dose for us T sufferers? Then we could go from sufferers to patients. Just taste that word: T patient! Not just a sufferer. That's a progress.

The health government needs to step up to the plate and honestly have the balls to use these "bad narcotics" to something good, cause as ANY medical professor can see theres lots of positive properties to these drugs as well.
If Cocaine have the ability decrease T levels then we should try to teat T sufferers with injection of Cocaine.
Bring' em on!

 

I'm in Des Moines, Medic84

 

I smoked consistantly from about april to about a month ago, my tinnitus in that time never seemed to be effected by the cannabis, other than spiking it until the next morning. However my T got significantly worse over the last month and i've quit out of paranoia.. someone that is part of a skype chat mentioned that it causes the voltage to increase to your potassium channels, and permantantly makes it worse, but i've been able to find no source about it

 

Don't buy into this hippie mumbo jumbo, basically the 'weed is good for you' propaganda has gone too far. If anything's killing today's society, it's cannabis. Over the years we have become lazy and unmotivated, generation after generation smokes more and more dope which ultimately is leading to degradation. The fact that marijuana could help anything is beyond ridiculous.

 

I'm sorry, but you are so off the mark here it's ridiculous. There is no "weed is good for you" propaganda, it's actually been the complete opposite forever. There is a rapidly growing amount of evidence for the use of cannabis in a wide variety of medical conditions, such as: cancer, glaucoma, epilepsy, tourettes, autism, insomnia, anxiety, chronic pain, etc. I could go on and on, and link you to a gang of studies that back up the claims.

You think cannabis is killing today's society? Really? Lazy people are always going to be lazy, regardless of whether they are using cannabis or not. The lazy stoner is an outdated media stereotype, and even then, if you think lazy people are degrading society, then you have some messed up priorities.

It's ridiculous that mainstream society dismisses the use of cannabis while embracing the use of alcohol, tobacco and prescription drugs. These are all infinitely more damaging and harmful than cannabis is. We know tobacco kills millions but no one cares because the government tells you it's legal. Alcohol can be fun in moderation, but there have been countless lives lost to alcohol fueled violence and alcoholism. Prescription medications are probably the worst of all, millions of people are needlessly becoming addicted to and having their lives ruined by powerful opiate pain killers, benzodiazepines, hypnotics and anti-depressants/psychotics. These medications have their place but they are more often than not over-prescribed by lazy/ignorant doctors and have nasty side effects (eg. tinnitus).

Cannabis offers a safe recreational alternative to alcohol and has demonstrated medicinal effects on a myriad of medical conditions and disorders. There's really no reason for it be illegal or stigmatized in 2014. If you think otherwise, you need to put things into perspective and get it together.

 

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Unfortunately, it is people like you that were responsible for prohibition of alcohol and subsequently, marijuana. There are evils in so many things besides cannabis (alcohol, gambling, food) when they are overdone or abused. However, there are many responsible people that find benefits in these things without any negative effects on you or on society in general. In all things, you have to accept the good with the bad. Because you don't think it has any merits and you think it is not good, you'd sooner take away the freedom of others to make that choice. That is just wrong. We need to educate people and offer help where it is needed. We don't need to take away the freedom of people to choose, because we think we have the only "right" perspective! Have you ever been wrong on anything? I doubt it!

 

Yes, I think alcohol is actually a lot better for you than marijuana, even tobacco is. If marijuana is so bad for us, why do you think it's illegal? There's a reason behind that but rebels like yourselves refuse to accept that, you blame the government for everything and yet you refuse to listen to them when they're trying to help. yonkapin, now the mainstream is liberals who think marijuana is good for you and not reasonable people who know it's awful for you, which is clear proof of why the society is just getting dumber and dumber.