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My ENT Doctor Gave Me This Cure and Said That 70% of His Patients Healed

leledany

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Nov 27, 2016
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Tinnitus Since
2016-11-02
Cause of Tinnitus
Acoustic trauma
I got tinnitus from about 1 month due to loud noise, i think 3-5 min exposure, my audiometry is normal, no hearing loss at any frequencies.

I will be brief and i will post the entire cure:

Clonazepam (klonopin): 10 drops directly in a spoon before sleeping
Alprazolam (xanax): 0,5 mg after eating
now GABA: 500 mg with vitamin B6, 2 pills per day at the morning and evening far from eating
Symfona G. Biloba: 120 mg after breakfast
Jarrow NAC: 500 mg before eating

About the last medicine I am little reluctant as I read somewhere that it could cause itself tinnitus

What you think about the cure, could you confirm the high rate of success as he said in persons with my tinnitus?

Hope it helps to someone as I paid a lot to get it
 
Clonazepam (klonopin): 10 drops directly in a spoon before sleeping
@leledany If the cure works then that's very good news I will be pleased for you. I would like to give you a little advice and hope that you don't mind. I take Clonazepam only when my tinnitus is very intrusive. It can help lower tinnitus in some people. However, this drug is addictive if taken on a regular basis and can have unpleasant side effects. If it is taken regularly, the body quickly habituates to it and more of the drug needs to be taken to lower the tinnitus; that's when addiction can set in. So please be careful.
Michael
 
Klonopin is a benzo designed to be taken daily, for longer periods of time. Not as needed, like alprazolam. Benzos indeed can quiet some people's tinnitus, as others have said, but can pose other problems like dependency.

Also, the above mixture is not going to "cure" tinnitus. But it could make it less intrusive for you, and bother you a lot less, which would be a benefit.
 
Your need a new ENT doctor for even using the word "cure" and "70%". There is nothing in this that would cure your tinnitus, some may help though

Clonazepam (klonopin): Evidence is mixed on whether this really helps or not, but will not cure tinnitus
Alprazolam (xanax): for anxiety which may help with your reaction to T and therefore it may seem reduced
now GABA: will not work for T as GABA supplement will not pass blood brain barrier and you will just pee it out.
Vitamin B: will only help if you are deficient in vitamin B which is unlikely.
Symfona G. Biloba: been disproven to help with T in any way
Jarrow NAC: 500 mg: Mixed - may help limit hearing damage some but not after you already have tinnitus

I posted this a few years ago about Clonazepam and Ginkgo: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/clonazepam-klonopin-rivotril.423/
 
@erik the other ENT said to wait and see if it vanish alone....... so which is the best choice?
Maybe is better to do nothing or take medicine that could make it worse?

Pls help
 
@erik the other ENT said to wait and see if it vanish alone....... so which is the best choice?
Maybe is better to do nothing or take medicine that could make it worse?

Pls help

If there was a "cure", then I'm damn sure someone else would have heard of it. Personally, I'm with @erik and would be sceptical of an ENT talking about cures.

How severe is your tinnitus? How much is if affecting your quality of life? - keeping in mind that the hardest part for most is early on...
 
You cannot immagine how much is difficult....... or you can immagine........ i am very sure it would be cured in the next 5 years but i do not want for that time make something that could damage more my situation
 
You cannot immagine how much is difficult....... or you can immagine........ i am very sure it would be cured in the next 5 years but i do not want for that time make something that could damage more my situation

I'm sorry to read that you're suffering so much - I don't need to imagine, I have been there. I would have to refer you to some others that have experience with benzodiazepines, as I have a bit of a drugs paranoia - my tinnitus was caused by an allergic reaction to a prescription drug in the first place.

I promise you though, for most, this is the worst part. For some, only a few weeks to cope, but from those I have spoken to and what I have read, it takes most at least 6 months. For me, it took over 18 months, but my tinnitus varies constantly in pitch and amplitude, sometimes even vanishing - something that so far as I can make out is pretty rare, but makes habituation much harder.

The part you are really struggling with is the connection between tinnitus and your limbic system. Tinnitus is a hugely emotional journey and it is the time that will mould your brain to cope. As far as my understanding is concerned, the drugs cocktail you are being offered is to help you cope emotionally and to lower the perceived amplitude, rather than "cure", but like I said, those who have taken similar drugs may have a different take.
 
Thank you for your reply, my ENT said that benzo could be a cure because i do not have hearing loss so the cause of my T is the overreaction of my cortex neurons. With benzo and antiepilectic drugs it should calm the overfiring on my neurons.
 
Thank you for your reply, my ENT said that benzo could be a cure because i do not have hearing loss so the cause of my T is the overreaction of my cortex neurons. With benzo and antiepilectic drugs it should calm the overfiring on my neurons.

Acoustic Trauma = hearing loss. Listen to engineers that are in biotech and are working on cure. hair cells die and you get Tinnitus sound that equals to frequency it affected.

ENT tests up to 8000mhz but most people with "hidden hearing loss" will have clear audiogram since damage is on upper level.

Go to audio or hearing aid company that does tests, they will run you up to 20000hmz and you will see that i am right.
 
i do not have hearing loss so the cause of my T is the overreaction of my cortex neurons

He sound s as much of a fool as the first ENT I saw. My honest advice is to find another ENT. I assume he means the auditory cortex. In a way, he is correct, but honestly, I think he has stumbled across a thread of truth, rather than really understanding what he has told you. Put simply, all tinnitus is in the brain, not in the ears. The ear is just a transducer to turn variations in air pressure into electrical impulses - nothing more, nothing less - the clever bit is all in the brain. There are plenty of people without "apparent" hearing loss who suffer with tinnitus (often referred to as hidden hearing loss) and equally plenty of people with severe hearing loss and no tinnitus. There are so many reasons for tinnitus, not just the classic "inner ear wear and tear" which is what the dipstick I saw thought.

Think of it like this. If someone has an amputation, sometimes they can still feel as though the limb is still present (phantom limb). It really isn't, it's obvious even to the individual that it isn't, but for some people, they still feel it, whilst for others, there is no such sensation - all this is down to how the brain interprets the input from the nerves. Tinnitus is very similar, it is the brain sensing inputs that are either not there, or erroneous. In a "normal" situation, the brain recognises that they aren't really there and just deletes them without ever sending them on to your conscious brain, so you don't notice, whilst for tinnitus suffers, you become aware of them.

I also have a "normal" audiogram, in fact, it is more typical for someone ten years younger than me without tinnitus. My tinnitus was induced by an allergy, not ototoxicity in the true sense, but an allergic response to a prescription drug that somehow scrambled my brain - somehow this explains why my tinnitus can vanish sometimes.

Your audiogram could be perfectly normal for a number of reasons, but it is in my opinion most likely because of the following:

You do not hear one frequency with 1 hair, there are multiple hairs that cover multiple frequencies - this is a fact. As such, even if 50% of the hairs die that hear a frequency, the other 50% can still pick up on it and hence hear it, even if the others are sending phantom signals. Also, the delicate hairs can be damaged, but not die, that will allow them to receive signals, but potentially also give out phantom signals.

The good news is that at least with a healthy audiogram, there is more opportunity for the outside world to help mask the noises and also, there is also still plenty of time for it to sort itself out.

It could well be that in 70% of cases, he gives this cocktail early on and 3 months later 70% are better, but would have been anyway - for a number of people, it does sort itself out within a few weeks.
 
You have nothing to lose by trying the cocktail except for benzo I don't really think you should take it.
 
As others have said, no harm in taking. If you're having trouble dealing with the anxiety of Tinnitus and your life is suffering the Xanax and Kolonpin will help with that.
 
Since you have only had T a very short time this protocol makes some sense. Or appears designed to enhence GABA and avoid the amygdala getting chronically activated which can lead to permanent T. NAC has shown efficacy for early noise induced T. I wouldn't worry about benzoyl addiction if you keep your duration to no mm ore than 2-3 weeks.
 
One of my ENT give me drugs and said to me you will be ok. But after a month I haven't seen any improvement.
 
Thank you all guys, I am not worryed at all by xanax addiction because i took this drugs for more than a year approx 15 years ago and I stop it without consequencies
 
People weighing in with good advice.

My main concern, @leledany, would not be so much taking the cocktail but shelling out a lot of money to an ENT who claims he is going to "cure" you. Many T sufferers have tried benzos, GABA, vitamins, et al and some have reported a reduction in tinnitus disturbance. But nobody has been cured.

Since you already paid the money, I probably would go ahead and take the cocktail. But I would be very wary of paying this doc anything else. He could possibly be the first of many so-called professionals who are looking to make a profit off your misery and desperation. Mine was a psychologist tinnitus "expert" who claimed he could make my tinnitus vanish by what turned out to be simple meditation breathing exercises that I could get off YouTube. Fortunately, I figured out he was a scammer after my first session and only lost $150.
 
@Snow the cure he said is for T caused by noise with "normal" audiogram he said this by his experience 70% improve. We will see guys you gave me enough courage to try the drugs he gave me.
@Snow i think you should find the cause first! maybe it could be that your cochlear nerve is too much narrow to arteries. In Italy this condition is well treated by surgey, but you should make RMI to see the nerves
 
@Snow the cure he said is for T caused by noise with "normal" audiogram he said this by his experience 70% improve. We will see guys you gave me enough courage to try the drugs he gave me.
@Snow i think you should find the cause first! maybe it could be that your cochlear nerve is too much narrow to arteries. In Italy this condition is well treated by surgey, but you should make RMI to see the nerves
I think you must try treatment. I hope it will work.
Any doctor said something to me. One said your Cochlea have been damaged. and other said it's relate to TMJ. and the new doctor said it's related to your ear muscles. So I can't find cause.
 
Do you have hearing loss? What is TMJ? Could you exlude Maniere disease? Did you take medicine that could have damage hearing cells? It is strange that ENT cannot identify the cause
 
Do you have hearing loss? What is TMJ? Could you exlude Maniere disease? Did you take medicine that could have damage hearing cells? It is strange that ENT cannot identify the cause
Last year I do noise surgery and after that I had a lot illness like allergies, sinusitis, and so I use drugs for those. So after a few month my ear blocked and very sound appeared.
TMJ related to problem in Jaw.
 
Your T is linked to Jaw problem probably your T could be cure. Why did you make the surgery? Which was the original problem?
 
I do surgery because I was stupid. my septum has deviation (Actually I have septum deviation now too.) but I didn't have any problem in breathe or other things. I have a few hearing loss. but my hearing is in normal section.
 
I try a guess maybe they just make a wrong surgery, as you have a septum deviation you could make another surgery! Not by the same ENT! However a magnetic resonance in your case is very important. No medicine in your case I suppose only surgery
 

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