Q&A: Tinnitus Hub Meets Neuromod (Lenire)

Discussion in 'Treatments' started by Tinnitus Talk, Nov 13, 2018.

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    1. Jack Straw
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      Jack Straw Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

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      He most likely has signed some sort of NDA and can’t discuss anything about the trials.
       
    2. RCP1
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      Guys we now have 2 testimonies suggesting a cure with both devices...

      This is a truly historic moment in the fight against this monster.

      Never before has anything made a dent in tinnitus let alone silence it completely.
       
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    3. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

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      Argentina
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      2017 (worsening)
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      Loud concert with ear plugs
      I read "neck" and immediately thought it is only for somatic tinnitus. Hope I'm wrong.
       
    4. Bndsmheowqhe

      Bndsmheowqhe Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
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      Loud noise exposure
      I love your attitude. If this works I'm flying to Ireland and buying you a few rounds.
       
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    5. Bart
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      Noise
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    6. Bart
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      Bart Member

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      2qrd7e.jpg
       
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    7. RCP1
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      Sound.
       
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    8. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

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      Loud music
      Yep. That's longer than I've had it, so it's very encouraging!

      The fact that Neuromod type stuff is coming from 3 different sources makes it far less likely this is snake-oil. Also, the more entities working on this the more likely this will become available and not just be vaporware.
       
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    9. Rings-a-Bell

      Rings-a-Bell Member

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      April 2016
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      Neither of the 2 testimonials are people with hearing loss. I hope that the next person who comes forward has a bit of noise-induced hearing loss in their profile.

      Then I will really start getting excited.
       
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    10. Allan1967

      Allan1967 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      It's going to cost anyway. Neuromod are no doubt watching Tinnitus Talk.
       
    11. PDodge
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      Woods of Alberta
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      01/2017
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      Bear ate my Cochlea
      Yes! I'm stoked. I really wanna know about lasting results... like does this stomp the face of tinnitus?
       
    12. GamesB2
      No Mood

      GamesB2 Member

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      uknown
      The anticiptation (and lack of sleep) is killing me!

      I'm so hyped to try this out.
       
    13. dayma
      Pacman

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      Companies are not on here determining what to charge for devices. :)

      This is a small, very small piece of the population that they are aiming at. They also are more concerned with producing substantial results so that insurance companies cover it for more people as THAT'S where the money is at. Becoming another Levo is probably not what they are aiming for...
       
    14. hans799
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      hans799 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Worsened Dec 2016 by headphones
      Couldn't agree more. It happens very rarely that an entirely new class of medical treatment comes to market. It seems to be happening now, and happening to us.

      Disbelief and doubt about science and experts is rampant in the West right now - but we're witnessing a first-class miracle of the scientific process.
       
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    15. dayma
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      Agreed and hopefully we are on the verge of something special.
       
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    16. Agrajag364

      Agrajag364 Member Benefactor

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      Sorry I couldn’t let that one go. The reason that there is disbelief and doubt about science and experts is not just alternative therapy hippy bollocks guff mindsets but because there are problems with the quality of science in some fields, particularly medical science and psychology, to the point where many ordinary people have started to lose faith in claims about medical treatments. The evidence for some treatments is very good and for others it is not. It is very sad and deeply concerning when that is translated to a loss of faith in science as a concept which is very misguided. I say that as someone who worked in academia for 13 years.
       
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    17. dayma
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      This 100 times...
       
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    18. AliceW

      AliceW Member

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      France
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      02/2017
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      Acoustic trauma - loud noise
      Pleeeeeaaaaaase Neuromod give us some news ASAP........ :arghh:
       
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    19. Eren101
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      Eren101 Member

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      Not true. From the posts it seems that they only tested up to 8 kHz. They may have hearing loss above that range.
       
    20. Eren101
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      Eren101 Member

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      Not true at all.
       
    21. Bndsmheowqhe

      Bndsmheowqhe Member

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      2016
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      Loud noise exposure
      Neuromod, we know you're lurking here. What's the deal with the delays?
       
    22. Philip83
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      Philip83 Member Podcast Patron Benefactor

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      Moped (2001) Noise blast (2014) Club (2017) Snowboard (2018)
      If you can show me one audiogram with a flat line at 0 zero that goes past 8 kHz, I'd love to see it.
       
    23. Bndsmheowqhe

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      2016
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      Loud noise exposure
      This is starting to border on disrespectful to their potential customers. I don't understand why they can't address the delay. Even without giving a specific date they could at least acknolage it that things are running behind schedule.
       
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    24. MarkLud

      MarkLud Member

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      11/2015
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      Noise/music/unknown
      Look, we're all antsy but let's calm down with killing them right now and saying it's disrespectful. I want this thing out tomorrow just like the rest of us but there's probably a million little things that they can't talk about publicly that go into the release date. Let's be happy that it's coming soon! We at least know that it's going to be this year, which is awesome.
       
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    25. Bndsmheowqhe

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      Loud noise exposure
      *Acknowledge
      Someone living with a painful incurable cancer is told "hey, we've developed a groundbreaking new treatment that will be available in January."

      January arrives: https://tenor.com/view/night-crickets-chirping-silent-gif-5280277
       
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    26. Helheim
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      Helheim Member Podcast Patron

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    27. dayma
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      dayma Member Benefactor

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      I agree. This is a private company and a small one at that. This is not Pfizer that has 170 years experience in the industry. There are going to be bumps.

      I am just happy and hopeful that it works and will be out soon!
       
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    28. SignalExec
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      SignalExec Member

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      03/15/18
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      Accoustic trauma?
      Sorry. But I must say I disagree.

      Of course, there might be bumps. However, Neuromod is actively hyping this already by posting videos of recovered patients. And by suggesting a possible release date. If we are antsy, it's because of their communication. So far, the only thing I've seen Neuromod doing is to excelling at marketing (creating a buzz in the community). Besides that, we have no hard data and no reliable information about when and how this device will be released.

      Yes, at this point their behavior is borderline disrespectful. Some communication is needed at this point, but the only news we get from Neuromod is about new hires (Twitter/website) and some hand-picked success stories (website). People on this forum have been on the phone with them without being any wiser. And the Q&A? I'm thankful for the people here investing all their time in that. However, the amount of information in the answers could have been compressed into a 5-minute interview.

      There are plenty of small start-ups that are more polite and more informative. And ultimately more respectful towards their future customers. How hard can it be to release a brief statement on their website or through twitter? I thought this was the purpose of a news page/Twitter feed.

      If this thing works, I won't care about all of this in the future. But for now: Neuromod, you need to do better. Talk to us!
       
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    29. Hazel
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      Hazel Director Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

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      the Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      one-sided hearing loss (of unknown origin)
      Sorry, but as a staff member I have to respond to this, even though it's just an aside in your comment. While I realize your criticism was directed more at Neuromod than at us, I do want to take the opportunity to point out the following:

      Hundreds of hours went into producing this video. All completely volunteer-based, by people who have busy day jobs and lives. Could we have done better? No doubt, but considering that it's a zero budget volunteer production, I think we did pretty damn awesome.

      I agree, some of the answers are repetitive. But we couldn't know that beforehand, so compressing the interview would have meant either re-doing it from scratch, or spending even more time than we already did on the editing. In either case, it would have meant spending time and/or money that we didn't have.

      We time stamped all the questions for your convenience and subtitled the video (by itself a mammoth task), so I think we did everything possible, within our limited means, to make it easy for the viewer to find the information they want.

      Of course, this comment is also indirectly a call for volunteers. We know we can do more and better, but cannot reach our full potential because we're chronically understaffed! So anyone interested in volunteering your skills, please PM me!
       
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    30. GamesB2
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      uknown
      Ain't that the truth, I wish they could come out with some minor updates about what they're up to.

      And if this works I look forward to forgetting all about this difficult period of my life.
       
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