Q&A: Tinnitus Hub Meets Neuromod (Lenire)

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    1. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Noise
      1.) yes

      2.) it’s stimulating both the auditory system (via headphones) and in Neuromod's case - the trigeminal nerve in the tongue via a tongue tip. It is hypothesised that this process induces plasticity (changes to the brain) that can be used to treat tinnitus by reversing changes that have taken place when tinnitus develops.

      If you go on Neuromod's Web Page, there is a video of professor Hubert Lim who explains how the treatment works.
       
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    2. PanM
      Smoking joe

      PanM Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Musician
      :thankyousign:
       
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    3. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

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      BLIMEY!
      Talk about trial and error!
      Where’s the science for this?
      Sounds pretty scant to me.
      I wonder how the Lego Bricks research is coming on.......?
       
    4. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      The research has shown promise in both animal and human studies and is a promising new treatment on the horizon.
       
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    5. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      @Jazzer have hope, read the research.
       
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    6. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

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      Noise
      Thank you bud.

      Quite honestly I can’t be fagged to read up on research, I leave that to you guys with a scientific mind.

      To tell you the truth, I have always regarded it as being ‘the guy in the open boat peering out at the horizon for land.’

      Horizon watching.

      Don’t get me wrong.

      I will be deeply interested if it happens.
      But in the mean time I have found ways to survive through deep relaxation and meditation.

      We have to survive the - ‘here and now.’

      Thank you for responding, despite my cynical skepticism.
      You must be a ‘gent.’

      Dave x
      Jazzer
       
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    7. Arseny
      Wishful

      Arseny Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Possibly from problems with blood flow
      Steroids + HBOT + Ipidacrine into my ears + a cocktail of IV drugs to improve blood flow.

      Hearing loss was recent and I was in the time frame when it might help.

      Most likely I had unilateral SSNHL and acoustic trauma a month later.
       
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    8. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Neuromod To Present at Leading Audiology and Otolaryngology Meetings throughout 2019 - February and March 2019 Schedule

      Dublin, Ireland, 04 February 2019 | Neuromod Devices Limited (“Neuromod”), an Irish medical technology company specialising in non-invasive neuromodulation technologies, will attend and present at a number of international conferences throughout 2019, the first of which will take place in the United States in February and March.

      The Association for Research in Otolaryngology (ARO) 42nd Annual Midwinter Meeting
      February 9th - 13th, 2019, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
      Session: Tinnitus; Moderators: LaGuinn Sherlock & Fan-Gang Zeng
      Time: 11:30am
      Date: Sunday, 10th February 2019
      Title: Safety and Long-Term Efficacy of a New Bimodal Sensory Neuromodulation Treatment for Tinnitus Evaluated Through a Randomized Clinical Trial in 326 Patients
      Hubert Lim; Caroline Hamilton; Stephen Hughes; Martin Schecklmann; Sven Vanneste; Deborah Hall; Berthold Langguth; Brendan Conlon

      American Auditory Society, 46th Annual Scientific and Technology Meeting
      February 28th - March 2nd, 2019, Scottsdale, Arizona, USA
      Podium Session II: Tinnitus, Transfer Functions and Tursiops
      Time: 2:25pm - 2:45pm
      Date: Thursday, 28th February 2019
      Title: Reproducible and Long-Term Efficacy of a New Treatment for Tinnitus
      Hubert Lim, PhD, University of Minnesota, and Neuromod Devices Limited, Minneapolis, MN

      The 31st Annual Conference of the American Academy of Audiology
      March 27th - 30th, 2019, Columbus, Ohio, USA
      Time: 12:00pm - 12:30pm
      Date: Friday, 29th March 2019
      Title: Reproducible and Long-Term Efficacy of a New Treatment for Tinnitus Evaluated in over 500 Patients
      Hubert Lim, PhD

      https://www.neuromoddevices.com/newsroom/2019/february-and-march-2019-meeting-schedule
       
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    9. Drone Draper
      Jaded

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      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NIHL, ETD and work stress
      So when we all ascend on Dublin like a bunch of earmuff-wearing Visigoths, should we all join up for a drink? I'm assuming no music will be required, so maybe a Whetherspoons?
       
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    10. Drone Draper
      Jaded

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      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NIHL, ETD and work stress
      Definitely the case for me. I'm sure I've gradually damaged my hearing, but my brain's been able to keep up until the sudden burst beginning of December.
       
    11. EDDTEKK

      EDDTEKK Member

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      Germany
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      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Great Step Forward! They are presenting their results to the world. But where are the European promotional activities?
       
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    12. gorzakus

      gorzakus Member Benefactor

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      Hearing loss ?
      I see there is a Belgian professor involved as well, it's Sven Vanneste who is a member of the brain clinic in Belgium.

      I sent him a mail asking for a release date.

      https://www.gbhi.org/sven-vanneste/
       
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    13. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      People might also want to ask one of the co-authors to give us a sense of "Safety and Long-Term Efficacy" of the device...
       
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    14. Drone Draper
      Jaded

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      NIHL, ETD and work stress
      I do wonder about that. If your tinnitus is completely gone after, say 12 weeks, do you keep using it?
       
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    15. Agatha

      Agatha Member

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    16. Drone Draper
      Jaded

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      NIHL, ETD and work stress
      Thanks Agatha. I obviously missed that part of the video.

      I guess you could just keep it in the closet for future spikes.
       
    17. RCP1
      Ape-like

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      Sounds like a plan. However if you come to Dublin City and out of all the fine Irish pubs choose Wetherspoons need I finish the sentence!
       
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    18. Drone Draper
      Jaded

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      Well, we'll need to find a place that plays no music, lest we all get spikes. I suppose we could go to a library and use our Neuromods at the same time like a bunch of dorks.
       
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    19. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

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      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      Do you know which brain clinic he is a member of, is it Brai3n?
       
    20. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

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      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Got the email as this also went out on their mailing list. Seems like a pretty big deal.
       
    21. gorzakus

      gorzakus Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss ?
    22. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cracow, Poland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
    23. Paulmanlike

      Paulmanlike Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      2008
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      Noise
      They don’t cooperate. They are separate entities. I think I recall Brai3n was part of some vague nerve stimulation though (I may be wrong) and was it Sven Vanneste or someone else who collaborated with Dirk de Ridder in VNS?

      Anyway it achieved mixed results. Neuromod is much more interesting at this stage.
       
    24. Ctjbush
      Alienated

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      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably loud music, old age
      I see that they already presented at the Baltimore conference.

      Has anybody read a report of what they talked about?

      And can one device be used by more than one person?
       
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    25. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

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      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      I meant Sven Vanneste who works for Brai3n and apparently cooperates with Neuromod which can mean at least part of the science behind both entities have common background.

      Brai3n uses QEEG to diagnose and some kind of neuromodulation to treat tinnitus.
       
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    26. OnceUponaTime
      Wishful

      OnceUponaTime Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

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      11/11
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      Noise
      They are introducing it to USA! Yes!

      I just had a QEEG test done this past Saturday. It is exactly what Dr. Shulman in Brooklyn, NY uses to diagnose and treat tinnitus. Let's see how it goes.
       
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    27. gorzakus

      gorzakus Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss ?
      I didn't even expect an answer to my mail but I already got a reply today from Dr. Vanneste, it's in Dutch but I will try to translate:

      "I am only a scientific advisor and do not work for Neuromod. At this moment the expected release date in Belgium will be around the middle of September.
      The audiogram is not necessary for the treatment, but to see how much hearing loss you have.
      Possibly the volume can be adjusted (to a maximum level) so one can hear all the tones."​

      My questions were when there will be a release date and if you had to get it through an audiologist and needed an audiogram to set it up.
       
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    28. Krolo

      Krolo Member Benefactor

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      Sweden
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      1999 , Worse in September 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud Volume
      I think Sven Vanneste is not actively working at Brai3n since Jan is doing all the work.

      Sven, Dirk and Jan were at Brai2n a couple of years ago.

      Interesting thing though is that Sven was working in Dallas up to like not long ago. Him moving to Dublin looks like Neuromod is probably not totally BS.
       
    29. gorzakus

      gorzakus Member Benefactor

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      02/2018
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      Hearing loss ?
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      Yes, he works as a professor in global brain health at the Trinity College Dublin.
      I just saw on Twitter they recently published a paper about subtypes of tinnitus according to hearing loss.
       
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    30. Helheim
      Angry

      Helheim Member Podcast Patron

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection
      Interesting. So if Neuromod is gonna be available officially in Belgium in September... I wonder what other expansion plans they have in place that we don't know about? It would be much easier for me to travel to, say, Austria than Ireland...
       
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