Role of Patulous Eustachian Tube (& Eustachian Tube Dysfunction in General) in Hyperacusis

Discussion in 'Support' started by MadeleineHope, Aug 17, 2023.

    1. MadeleineHope
      Inspired

      MadeleineHope Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic shock/noise-induced
      Hi everyone,

      I was researching Eustachian Tube issues a while back & noticed that the symptoms of Eustachian Tube Dysfunction & Patulous Eustachian Tube seem to overlap with those experienced by people with hyperacusis. I found Patulous Eustachian Tube particularly interesting, since people describe having trouble with their own voice, chewing, footsteps, etc. Then I came across a story where the individual developed Patulous Eustachian Tube before developing pain hyperacusis. Arnaud Norena also mentions that TTTS can cause issues with the Eustachian Tube.

      All of this makes me wonder to what extent this contributes to some of the symptoms we experience. Thoughts?

      Cheers,
      Maddy
       
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    2. haha ear go eeee

      haha ear go eeee Member

      Location:
      Ontario, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2023
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hyperacusis
      I agree. I've had issues with my Eustachian tubes for years.

      When I was a kid, I had constant middle ear infections, so much so that I needed to get ear tubes. My ear that got the most frequent infections, my right one, has the middle ear noxacusis in it. So it's really interesting to see who else on here has issues with their Eustachian tubes, and if that leads to middle ear more than inner ear noxacusis.
       
    3. Merlin L

      Merlin L Member

      Location:
      Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2023
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Gunshot
      They are definitely connected. The tensor and levatoe veil palatini muscles open the Eustachian tube. I developed Eustachian tube dysfunction along with my TTTS and hyperacusis.

      Before the acoustic trauma I could control my Eustachian tube and hold it open on command, and then when I talked, it temporarily caused autophonia (hearing your own voice very loudly since the voice travels from your mouth to the ear since Eustachian tubes end in the throat) - what people with Patulous Eustachian Tube complain about. Of course, it went back to normal when I “released” my Eustachian tubes and let them close.

      I’d say, people definitely can find it distressing and your voice feels very loud when you have Eustachian tubes that won’t close properly, but it’s not like having hyperacusis (at least for me), although the complains of symptoms and how people verbalize things are similar.
       
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    4. Supersix
      Balanced

      Supersix Member

      Location:
      California Dreaming
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mild hearing loss ETD Left Ear,Profound hearing loss R
      You can read about my experience with ETD, the leading cause of my tinnitus. It has wreaked havoc on me every day and night for eight years. I have profound hearing loss in my right ear and tinnitus in my good ear (left). I don't experience trouble with my voice or chewing etc.
       
    5. GG_Ear
      Worried

      GG_Ear Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Exposure, TMJ, Stress, TTTS, ETD? ...
      @MadeleineHope, I just got it confirmed that my Eustachian tubes are dysfunctional. They do not open or close correctly at the right times.

      I have had tinnitus permanently since 2019 and hyperacusis since June this year.
       
    6. Josh59

      Josh59 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Long-term noise trauma
      I have a problem with my Eustachian tubes in addition to my pain hyperacusis and tinnitus.

      I've noticed that my somatic tinnitus is reactive to Eustachian tube cracking, which has become chronic. I think that my pain hyperacusis (contraction of the tensor tympani muscle) also increases with this Eustachian tube dysfunction.

      I was wondering whether the Eustachian tubes can be activated during chewing, contractions of the masseter muscles, TMJ dysfunction, as well as during sleep and more particularly when teeth are clenched?

      I've read that the tensor palatine muscle also plays a role, along with the Eustachian tubes and the tensor tympani muscle. Does this muscle also depend on the factors mentioned above?
       
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