Severe Tinnitus Cured at Terrible Cost by DXM Found in Cough Syrup

Discussion in 'Support' started by Fortuna117, May 24, 2019.

    1. Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      The chemical DXM found in cough syrup has completely cured my high pitched tinnitus (drank a whole bottle).

      Unfortunately, I was found with no pulse and rushed to the hospital.

      It also made me think that the doctors were out to get me.

      In addition I cannot pee.
       
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    2. GSC
      Wishful

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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma.
      ....
       
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    3. PureNoise

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      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
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    4. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      @Fortuna117 is your second name an attention seeker?
       
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      Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      If any proof is required I can post pictures of myself on the floor after taking the DXM or at the hospital with breathing tubes in.

      Are you assuming DXM is ototoxic from those two reported cases? Are you saying that no other factors could have been behind their tinnitus?

      Do you realise you need 32 samples for a test to be significant. Granted you do have the Z test.

      Regarding peer reviewed journals DXM is an NDMA antagonist, more potent than Ketamine.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9539609/

      I'm just reporting on the results.

      Or maybe how OTO-104 is DXM:

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/medgen/1389968
       
    6. PureNoise

      PureNoise Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Your link is about Dexamethasone, not Dextromethorphan. “DXM” from cough syrup is Dextromethorphan.

      Nice try though.
       
    7. AUTHOR
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      Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      I will not waste time stating that I noticed the second links mistake and thought I made a correction post.

      Because the first link stands:

      Comparison of ketamine and “dextromethorphan” in potentiating the antinociceptive effect of morphine in rats.

      The article lists them as NDMA antagonist. With dextromethorphan being more potent.

      These class of drugs are being researched for tinnitus treatment.

      Yes.

      I understand just because one drug works does not mean the other drug will work.

      Granted , that was not the reason for me taking the drug.

      The reason was that being in Euphoria state helped deal with the tinnitus.

      To repeat I am just repeating what my experience was with the drug and how it reduced my tinnitus for a brief time. Sadly, once the drug was stopped the tinnitus went back to baseline and the side effects are not worth the risk (I died for 5 minutes).

      Hell maybe being dead for five minutes rebooted my brain pathways.

      Note: There is nothing after life.
       
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    8. Tanni
      Devilish

      Tanni Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      October 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ???
      When did this happen? Were you attempting to kill yourself again, or was it an accident because you found that small doses worked for your Tinnitus and then overdid it?

      Bit worried about you, whether you're a genuine person who keeps attempting suicide or someone who comes onto medical boards to lie about it. Either is very worrying behaviour.
       
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      Fortuna117

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      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      Doctor recommended that I take a sleeping aid.

      Started on a small dosage. Worked well.

      Many people stated it worked better at higher dosage and was safe.

      Turns out I am slightly allergic and my throat was swollen shut.

      Luckily my mother found me the next day on the ground.
       
    10. Tanni
      Devilish

      Tanni Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      October 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ???
      Absolutely - you didn't notice your Tinnitus because you were high as hell on a whole bottle of cough syrup. This is a well known form of substance abuse, particularly amongst teenagers, and carries a risk of overdose - as with all drug abuse.

      You are right not to recommend this to other people, it's crazy dangerous.

      I am pleased to note that you are relieved you did not die - so perhaps you can remember this if you feel tempted to take your life in future.
       
    11. Tanni
      Devilish

      Tanni Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      October 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ???
      Sorry to be petty, but this made me smile :)
       
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    12. Ecip

      Ecip Member

      Location:
      Edmonton, AB/Switzerland
      Tinnitus Since:
      4.11.2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Still unknown... possibly noise exposure?
      Maybe you weren't actually dead. Maybe you need to be deader to see what there is after life.
       
    13. Ken219
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      Ken219 Member

      Location:
      New York Area
      Tinnitus Since:
      Summer of 1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure?
      I found the ignore option for this guy.
       
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    14. Luman
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      Luman Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      I don't believe JC, or anybody else, ever came back from the dead, an there's not a single shred of scientific evidence that can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that such a thing has ever happened.
       
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      Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      No need to apologise.

      If someone posted a similar statement I would had a similar reaction. Hence, the "I will not waste your time".

      The fact remains that my tinnitus has changed from being loud high pitched to moderate low pitch after DXM.

      The problem is finding the catalyst that resulted in that change.

      It could have been the DXM. Because it is an NDMA antagonist that it as potent as Ketamine.

      Because my family stated that I died it could have been the adrenaline that was injected into my body.

      Granted, I see no evidence that this actually occured.

      Brain rebooting theory is implausible.

      If I was dead than I was clinically dead and not brain dead.

      I was also on an IV drip.

      However, considering this is just saline people would be drinking salt water by the gallon if it helped.

      I might be habituating to the condition but that would not explain being able to mask the tinnitus at a sound less than 37 dB.

      Lastly, maybe being in coma let my body heal at at an accelerated rate.

      So, while there are reasons as to why my tinnitus decreased I am betting on the NDMA antagonist.

      However, I advise against taking DXM as safer NDMA antagonist such as taurine exists.
       
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      Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      What?

      Clinically dead people are revived everyday.

      But, sadly Christianity is falsehood to help children deal with death.
       
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    17. rdz
      Gloomy

      rdz Member

      Location:
      Chicago
      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Do you think maybe it's like electronics were a restart is needed to function properly again?
       
    18. AUTHOR
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      Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      That was one of my theories but I was clinically dead, not brain dead.

      Clinically dead is where you are not breathing and your heart stops.

      Brain dead is where no electrical signals exist.

      I read on a Reddit thread someone suggesting taking a whippet drug.

      His explanation was like whacking a static TV.

      I doubt it will work.

      Regardless, I still advise people try Taurine and not DXM.

      DXM is overkill.
       
    19. Kain
      Disappointed

      Kain Member

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      March, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      excessive loud music through earbuds
      Uhhh maybe the lack of oxygen killed something in your brain?
       
    20. rdz
      Gloomy

      rdz Member

      Location:
      Chicago
      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      So is your tinnitus much better now? Is it something you think you don't need to worry about anymore?
       
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      Fortuna117

      Fortuna117 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced
      Let's just say I can now block it out using a white noise machine below 37 dB.

      I am more worried that life is all that exists and no after life exists.
       
    22. HeavyMantra
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      HeavyMantra Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Steadily worsening since 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      10/10 OP lol
       
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    23. Steve0

      Steve0 Member

      Location:
      Victoria, Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ?
      I was watching this YouTube video the other day.

      Is There Life After Death? moderated by John...
       
    24. Daniel Lion
      Ape-like

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      Location:
      SE Asia
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise trauma, hearing loss
      Why would that worry you?

      Fortuna, I like your style. Don't worry, matter changes forms. A friend of mine, like you who died briefly, found it very comforting and was not frightened by death after this experience.

      You're a cool cat, don't worry. I am more concerned about mom scraping you off the bathroom floor. Be careful young brother. You obviously have a few drug allergies and chasing "euphoria" is dangerous.

      Peace out, Daniel
       
    25. Johnny Karate
      Barefooter

      Johnny Karate Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Zoloft, Viagra, Naproxen, loud noises for years
      Read the Bible Op. There most certainly is an afterlife and only 2 options. One is everlasting torment away from our creator and the other is everlasting life with him and our Lord Jesus Christ. It’s a free gift to all who believe and follow Christ. He died to pay the price for our sins against God his father. He actually did come back from the dead and is in Heaven right now and will be returning one day to judge the world. He loves you. He is waiting for you to come to him in repentance so that he may give you the gift of eternal life. Read Romans and the book of John, or just read the entire New Testament :) Don’t die and go from one torture to another. The way has been made. The price has been paid. Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life. Whoever believes in me shall not perish but have everlasting life. Get yourself into a local bible preaching church of people who love the Lord and in so will love you and help you.
       
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    26. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      FULL STOP:

      DXM in cough syrup is
      dextromethorphan (DXM)

      the DXM abbreviation in OTO-104 is
      glucocorticoid dexamethasone (DXM)

       
    27. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      There isn't enough DXM in one bottle to cause much beyond an introductory-level experience; it's less than 400mg of DXM, and recreational users/abusers routinely take five times that much. When idiots did this in high school (of which I may have been one, once or twice) a bottle plus was usually the minimum quantity consumed. Some really enterprising kids in even used my high school chem lab to reduce cough syrup to almost-pure pink/offwhite DXM powder. It's one hell of an awful drug.

      Either something else in the cough syrup you took was toxic, or you have a metabolic problem (CPYD enzyme issues?)

      I've used plenty of disassociatives since I've had tinnitus, they definitely don't do anything useful. @3ri0w may have more to say on that subject, I think he did ketamine infusions.

      In any case, I prefer being able to piss voluntarily to having silence at this time.
       
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    28. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      Ketamine doesn't cure tinnitus. My hamster told me.
       
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    29. Tom Cnyc

      Tom Cnyc Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Warehouse event after years of enjoying music.
      First let me say - don't do it.

      Second - seriously, don't do it. High dose DXM is not only unpleasant, it makes acid look like tic tacs.

      Third - As I'm sure some idiot will run and try to Robotrip to see how it impacts tinnitus - it's very important that the ONLY DRUG IN THE BOTTLE is DXM. Most DXM containing pills / syrups are cocktails. Usually, among other things with questionable safety profiles, with Acetaminophen (Parecetamol to those on the other side of the pond) in HIGH doses. This can literally kill you or potentially put you on lifelong dialysis.

      Lastly - But for real. Don't fucking do it.
       
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