Should I Quit My Music Internship?

Discussion in 'Support' started by Foamearplugssuck, Jun 8, 2019.

    1. Foamearplugssuck
      Angry

      Foamearplugssuck Member

      Location:
      new dorp new york
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/26/19
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Doing concert photography
      Hey all--

      I have an internship at a radio station, and I've been doing a lot of concert/studio session photography, meaning that I am often next to loud, live music. I've had tinnitus for the past two weeks, and I'm very worried that it's permanent. Since I'm young and hoping to work in the music industry, this thought is absolutely devasting and has been giving me much anxiety.

      I want to give my ears the best shot at recovering from tinnitus, and I think that means I should probably quit the internship and spend the rest of the summer in relative silence. However, when I brought this up to my parents, they scoffed and said I was being over dramatic and that quitting would look bad on my resume.

      The other day I went to an audiologist, and while she didn’t directly say to quit the internship, she was concerned about it. I got fitted for custom earplugs but they’re going to take a couple weeks to come in. In the meantime, I’m wearing foam ear plugs [that don’t fit into my ears because my ear canals are narrow and curvy] underneath Bose noise canceling headphones. I’m still worried though that its not enough and that I really should just stop the internship.

      Though, this is the first internship I’ve gotten and it would really help me reach other opportunities in the music/photography realm. So, I dont want to quit because I'd like to have a career after college. But, it clearly isnt worth losing my hearing over.

      Any thoughts or suggestions? [Thanks!]
       
    2. Strife_84
      Energetic

      Strife_84 Member

      Location:
      Finland
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Mixing music for long and too loud.
      You answered your own question.

      Don't give up just yet. See how it goes.

      I am myself at situation where I am thinking if I quit my musical dreams too. I have 5 released tracks on Spotify, with a small German label.

      I love music. But I am already thinking about backup plan and I admit it's hard.

      But I have not given up yet.

      Suggestion, give your ears time and see where your condition goes.

      But in the end, you are the only person who can decide what and what not to do with your life.
       
    3. Autumnly
      Wishful

      Autumnly Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise-induced
      I’d say don’t continue it. Live music can be incredibly loud and could definitely interfere with your ears healing. You’ve only had tinnitus for two weeks, there’s still a chance it could go away so give your ears a break and give them the best chance to heal.

      Your health is much more important than a perfect resume, you won’t be able to work if you’re too sick. You’ll be able to find other ways into this field that are less damaging. Also, if you're already dealing with tinnitus now, ask yourself if you really want to work in this field or if there aren't other music and photography related jobs you could imagine yourself doing that aren't as damaging to your health.

      You're definitely not being over-dramatic, your family simply doesn't understand how severe tinnitus and pain-hyperacusis can get.
       
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    4. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      OP did answer it. I agree with OP that this internship is not worth making his/her T permanent. Personally, I would also not take this risk.

      @Foamearplugssuck check out
      https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/learn-from-others-mistakes.29437/


      If you get spikes and/or ear fullness following being exposed to noise at that radio station, then it Definitely makes sense to quit. If this doesn't happen, then there is a higher chance that you will be ok. But the chance that you will not be ok will still be there.

      What it boils down to is that you shouldn't "do the crime" if you aren't prepared to "do the time."
       
    5. Digital Doc

      Digital Doc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise induced
      If the earplugs are not fitting into the ear canal, then they won't be effective. You should try some slim fit types for hearing protection that can go into a narrower ear canal while you wait for the custom ones.

      Bose noise canceling headphones don't do a great job of hearing protection, and you would be better off with ear muffs.

      Have you measured the db's of this workplace? Are they > 85 db's? Is this an OSHA violation?

      Realize that there are other ways to work in the music industry other than next to a blasting speaker. These include the business aspects such as at a record label, or as a manager which you can look into.

      The basic fact is if you avoid further exposure to this level of noise, at this internship or elsewhere, this should get better over the next few months. If you persist in this, this has potential to never go away, and considerably worsen.
       
    6. Luman
      Benevolent

      Luman Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brooklyn
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      You should tune into (musician and producer) Rick Beato's live YouTube Q&A sessions, and also see the old ones where he talks about his tinnitus - he knows a lot about tinnitus as he's had it for years. I am sure that he'd love to help you with advice.
       
    7. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Foamearplugssuck
      Angry

      Foamearplugssuck Member

      Location:
      new dorp new york
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/26/19
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Doing concert photography
      Thank you all for your replies! They have been very helpful.

      @Digital Doc I have the smallest earplugs available to me, but my ear canals are much smaller than average and curved, so it's difficult to get foam earplugs in :/

      I measured the dBs of the concert I was working at, and they were in the 80-90 range. However, it was an acoustic set, so depending on the band, they could be much louder. Since I work at a radio station/concert venue, I'm not sure if that would be a violation of anything as I'm exposed to those levels for an hour, max.

      Alas, I'd honestly rather quit the music industry than be on the business side. My passion is in creating things and making art, and while I definitely appreciate the people who do work in the music business, it's just not where I want to be.
       
    8. Digital Doc

      Digital Doc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise induced
      Did you try these types of earplugs?

      https://www.amazon.com/Macks-Dreamg...s&qid=1560010601&s=gateway&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1

      The OSHA requirements do not change if you work at a radio station, and at 80 they are fine, and 90 they are not.

      "What are the warning signs that your workplace may be too noisy?
      Noise may be a problem in your workplace if:

      • You hear ringing or humming in your ears when you leave work.
      • You have to shout to be heard by a coworker an arm's length away.
      • You experience temporary hearing loss when leaving work."

      https://www.osha.gov/SLTC/noisehearingconservation/
       
    9. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      Foamearplugssuck
      Angry

      Foamearplugssuck Member

      Location:
      new dorp new york
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/26/19
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Doing concert photography
      Those are the types of earplugs I've been trying to use. It's really hard to get them in, and they always pop out, no matter how far I push them in or how long I let them expand for.

      And thanks for the OSHA info! I doubt that the concerts are below 80 dB all the time. I wish this industry wasn't so....loud lol.
       
    10. daiso

      daiso Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      If your passion is not music, then it's not worth the risk. Internship accelerates career, but you can always wait for another opportunity. Damaged ears are permanent. If you decide to continue your internship, I suggest you use highest rating ear muffs for best protection. I did and still use earplugs, both custom and high end plugs, but nothing compares to ear muffs for actual protection and peace of mind.
       
    11. Ken219
      Frustrated

      Ken219 Member

      Location:
      New York Area
      Tinnitus Since:
      Summer of 1990
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure?
      Aside from my wife and children I would give up everything else not to have tinnitus!
       
    12. JohnFox

      JohnFox Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown. Sudden loss of 100% hearing R ear with Tinnitus
      That's it. Believe me, losing your hearing, and more to the point, getting permanent tinnitus is not worth it. Your still young. I got permanent tinnitus after having lived most of my life. I can't imagine having what I have now as a young person with my whole life ahead of me. It's not too late to choose another career. You can still enjoy music, but on your own terms. If you have a career in the music industry, I would imagine the risk of being exposed to noise induced tinnitus over the years would be great. Think hard on this one.
       
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