Social Gatherings and Fear of Sudden Loud Noises

Discussion in 'Support' started by Julien87, Oct 12, 2020.

    1. Julien87
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      Julien87 Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (concert)
      Good day fellow noiseheads.

      I wondered how do you guys deal with the situations where loud noises may occur, when you are with family and/or friends?

      I've been thinking about that yesterday. Because I was at my cousin's for the the birthday of her son on Saturday, with other people from the family and friends. I spent the whole afternoon stressed and on the lookout because of one detail: there were balloons hung on a wall (exactly what I feared before coming) and a few kids. Dangerous combo.

      The kids obviously wanted to unhook the balloons to play with them. Which concerned me quite a lot because we were in an enclosed space (the living room) and I did not want any balloon to pop near my ears. It seemed like I was the only adult who cared that those goddamn balloons stay on that wall so I regularly stood up and prevented the kids from unhooking them when they obviously wanted to do it (some people may have found my behaviour weird but anyway, I did not want to risk it).

      So, needless to say I did not really enjoy this moment that could have been a lovely moment spent with family and friends. I was constantly fearing that one kid unhooks a balloon and makes it pop. And it made me so uncomfortable that I left a bit early.

      And this kind of situation is likely to happen again in the future, with balloons or other sources of noise. I have had tinnitus for many years but I still struggle with these situations. Actually, I think they generate more stress now than in the first years after the onset.

      How do you deal with those situations? Do you simply avoid them? Do you wear earplugs so that a sense of security enables you to relax/enjoy the moment? Or are you constantly on the lookout like me?

      Thank you for reading and sharing your thoughts,
      Take care.
       
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    2. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      HI @Julien87

      I understand your concerns and trepidation being around loud sounds at social and family events. However, you have had tinnitus for quite some time and therefore experienced. To be honest sound levels unless extremely loud shouldn't cause any problems or make someone like you feel alarmed, unless as I suspect your oversensitivity to sound (hyperacusis) hasn't been treated, since the onset of your noise induced tinnitus back in 2006?

      As I have mentioned in many of posts in particular: Hyperacusis, As I see it. Unless oversensitivity to sound (hyperacusis) is treated a person will always find sound or certain sounds problematic. This can affect a person's mental and emotional wellbeing quite profoundly and reinforce negative thinking of the type I've mentioned many times in my posts and articles on Noise induced tinnitus and hyperacusis. If possible try and seek treatment for this which may require counselling. If this isn't possible try self help as explained in many of my posts. When in an environment where noise levels feel uncomfortable, I suggest using noise reducing earplugs but try not to become too dependent on them.

      My hyperacusis was treated over 20 years ago and cured using white noise generators as part of TRT. I have no problems with sound levels even up to 100 decibels and slightly over. Admittedly I only endured this for 30mins as mentioned in my post, hyperacusis as I see it.

      Please try my suggestions and hope you start to feel better in the future.

      Take care
      Michael

      PS: How are you getting on with the Waterpik, has it helped?
       
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    3. AUTHOR
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      Julien87
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      Julien87 Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (concert)
      Hi @Michael Leigh
      I hope you are well, thank you for your reply.
      My oversensivity is quite light, and not really problematic. Some noises cause discomfort to me, but do not cause pain (that is why I prefer to write oversensitivity and not hyperacusis, in my case). Generally it is not an issue, and I think I can withstand brief loud noises quite well.

      I agree with you, I am just not sure how loud a noise needs to be to cause further damage to me and to worsen my tinnitus. This really terrifies. I am now fine with brief children screams, car honking or dog barking. But balloons, I don't know, it seems to be another level of noise.

      So I think I may just keep earplugs in whenever I need to stay in an area where a balloon may pop.
      I thought about that several times, because this fear affects my life quite a lot. I try to work on it myself but I don't do a lot of progress. I should probably try seeing a therapist/counsellor, yes. Seems inevitable now.
       
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    4. Steph1710
      Old hag

      Steph1710 Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Antibiotics - I think
      @Julien87

      A similar thing happened to me the other day. I was round a friend's and she was playing music through a huge sound system, stupidly loud!

      I kept earplugs in the whole time.

      I wish I didn't feel too embarrassed to say that my ears are delicate and could she please turn the volume down... Next time I will say something.

      Fortunately, I haven't experienced any spike.

      But I know where you're coming from. It's hard to relax in certain situations. Just keep earplugs in and stay away from ridiculous volumes. With earplugs, you should be fine. Kids and balloons would certainly make me nervous!

      I try not to avoid any social situation, as I would like to continue to live despite having tinnitus. But yes, I definitely get nervous in some situations, but that's normal for us guys. We're trying to protect ourselves after all. And for good reason!

      I think you should explain to your family about the balloon situation. If they love you, they'll understand. There's plenty more decorations to use, other than balloons.

      Steph x
       
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      Julien87
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      Julien87 Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (concert)
      I understand. In those cases I don't hesitate to ask if they can lower it a bit ^^ Generally they understand, and not everybody, with or without tinnitus, likes loud environments anyway. It can be annoying when you are having conversations. And in the situations where people don't know about your condition and you don't want to mention it to them, I have a tip: you could simply say you have a headache and the music makes it worse :)
      I think that's the best thing to do. Not avoiding them, not seeing them as threats.
      I think my cousin, her husband and the other close family I had there on Saturday understood why I did this. They know about my condition. Well, despite this I think they had no idea the balloons could scare me. I guess it's very hard to put oneself in the shoes of someone like us…
       
    6. Jrblovsky

      Jrblovsky Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      Christmas 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NOISE/Menieres Who knows
      Carry a pair of earplugs in your pocket. 3M makes a little case and you can put a pair of foamies or the hard ones in there. Just put them in when you're in a situation like that. I always wear a plug in my right ear when I go to my sister's place. Her kids are screaming and yelling and being kids. My son does the same. Get in the habit of keeping a pair on you like a cellphone and wallet. You don't want to be stuck without them. The one time when I was working I took my muffs off when leaving the shop floor and was grabbing my lunch out of my locker. That's when the custodian slammed a large gate about 6 to 8 feet from my head. It was very loud I'd say 90 to 100 dB and instantly made my tinnitus spike for three months. The hearing loss has gotten worse, which I doubt was from that but always have earplugs with you.
       
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    7. PaulBe

      PaulBe Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cairns
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably sound, though never proven
      Funny now isn't it (or not). We were social distancing long before it was fashionable.
       
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    8. Sevv

      Sevv Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      12.04.2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert
      You have three options:

      1. Go and be stressed about noise (balloons, kids, etc.)

      2. Go and use hearing protection. Feels a bit awkward as you cant talk much with increased noise of your own voice. Also oddish if you use earmuffs and your family doesn't understand the reason. But you get to see family.

      3. Don't go and relax. Meet family in gatherings where you decide what is acceptable and what not.

      Personally, there's a load of things I don't do anymore, simply because it's stressful. Going through a shop with lots of small children is like going through a warzone for me. But I have actual hyperacusis on high frequencies.
       
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      Julien87
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      Julien87 Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (concert)
      Thank you. I do have earplugs with me. Custom silicon earplugs that I wear if there is a continuous loud noise (e.g., plane), and I also keep small silicon earplugs (EarDial) attached on my keychain, that I use in case there is a risk of loud noise. I wore them for a while on that day.

      The problem is that I don't find it comfortable to talk with earplugs in (not sure why, probably because of the occlusion effect) so I tend to be totally antisocial when I am plugged. So at some point I removed them so I could talk freely with others. But with fear :confused:
       
    10. Jrblovsky

      Jrblovsky Member

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      Christmas 2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      NOISE/Menieres Who knows
      Look into AXL EarPro. It amplifies quiet sounds and can be programmed like a hearing aid. The company makes hearing aids too. I'm buying a set if I can get this roaring under control.
       
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      Julien87
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      Julien87 Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure (concert)
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