Something Happens in the Brain When We Sleep That Makes Tinnitus Louder in the Middle of the Night

Discussion in 'Support' started by Asian, Jun 8, 2014.

    1. Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      Now usually my tinnitus is on the left ear and I can handle i pretty well meaning I am somewhat habituated to it. But, what is the cause of the noise going straight up and you waking up in the middle of the night because of it? This is just what happened to me right now. I just gave it some time and it got quieter but now I am afraid to go back to sleep.

      If I doze off in a noisy place, quiet place, whereever, at any time of day or night, I wake up to horrific T.. twice to 3 times as loud as my normal T.. It stays that way for hours too before subsiding, and depending on the day it may not subside at all.. Its NOT a "lack of aural stimulous".. Its something in the brain.. Something happens during sleep.. Its not just the quiet time. Maybe that's the reason so many T sufferers avoid even a 10 minute nap??.. Because they wake up miserable
       
    2. Leah

      Leah Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chardon, Ohio USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Used to love naps, now even a 20 second doze fires T.
      Very curious about T and sleep too.
       
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    3. ampumpkin
      Amused

      ampumpkin Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Montreal
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset: 12/2007 Increase: 04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      2007: Meds(Antidepressant) 2014: Meds(Antibiotics)
      My T doesn't do that. It's due to ototoxic meds.

      I had a spike at the beginning of May. Everything seems to be almost back to normal in the morning. I wake up now with the same T I've had since 2007. It's very comforting actually...

      Last night, I had a few drinks and went to bed with my T so loud.. I was worried that it would stay that way but this morning, it was back to my waterfall sound...
       
    4. lamasheen

      lamasheen Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2014
      I have hearing loss in one ear, and notice that my T is much worse some days in the mornings if I exercise the previous day. Question, does the spike in T, give you the sense that the hearing loss is worse? Is there any correlation between the perceived temporary loudness in the T and perceived hearing loss? And then once the T settles down, the hearing loss improves somewhat?
       
    5. Relic Hunter
      Cynical

      Relic Hunter Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/1990
      I avoid naps because they often cause my T to increase. The only way I have found to lower the volume is when I sleep long enough to go into a deep sleep pattern. This does not work 100 percent of the time. I am getting old and find myself often wanting to just take a nap but these are not worth the often increase in T.
       
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    6. This happens to me. I wake every night around 3am with loud t. It's really odd.q
       
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    7. lamasheen

      lamasheen Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2014
      Is it the T that is actually waking you up? Or something else?
       
    8. No i always wake during the night. ..but having loud t during is new for me.
       
    9. Mr. Cartman
      Artistic

      Mr. Cartman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      My T is also at a spike in the morning. I have never woken up during the night because of my T though, as I sleep pretty hard to say it at least :oldman:
       
    10. Kathi
      Balanced

      Kathi Member Benefactor

      Location:
      NJ/USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/30/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      HFHL and stress

      I don't think it's exclusively from ototoxic meds as I wasn't taking anything at the time I got my T. I have age related high frequency hearing loss and I just woke up with it one morning. I have the same thing though--when I wake up my T is louder than normal.

      I feel discouraged reading this thread--it seems like even long time tinnitus sufferers still have the same problems as us newbies. My husband has tinnitus when he takes his hearing aids out but he is so habituated that he can change the focus quickly. I asked him--he never gets it from napping.
       
    11. here2help

      here2help Member

      @Asian, @Leah, @Relic Hunter, @Street Spirit, @lamasheen, @Mr. Cartman, and @Kathi, what you are describing isn’t due to something that happens during sleep. It is really due to waking up. It even has a name, the awakening response. It is a normal physiological process that occurs when a sleep cycle is interrupted, either by awakening from a nap or a night’s sleep, or sometimes when waking up in the middle of the night. When a sleep cycle is interrupted, the brain responds with "He/she is up. All hands on deck" and shoots a lot of adrenaline into your system. When this sort of "Attention kmart shoppers" moment occurs, it is very common for a number of folks to perceive their tinnitus as louder. It is normal physiology, and the effect is temporary.

      Hope this helps!

      here2help
       
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    12. Interesting. Thank you. :) I wondered why it's worse after nap as well.
       
    13. Leah

      Leah Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chardon, Ohio USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Thanks for the explanation. Is too much adrenaline the problem?
       
    14. nogood
      Procrastinating

      nogood Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ototoxicity/infection
      Just woke up and t is loud.. it's been like this ever since it started. ..
       
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      AUTHOR
      Asian

      Asian Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      4 weeks
      Here2help,
      Some have hypothesized it's an adrenaline spike that triggers the tinnitus. Maybe....... although I suspect it may be related to neck or jaw positioning as I can sometimes mitigate by changing my neck position while sleeping and/or when I wake-up.

      It's quieter in the morning upon waking up. But louder in the night upon waking up. So I really doubt it's just the perception thing here. I suspect the amount of sleep has to to a lot on the volume when you get up.

      A shower (or a comparable sound of that intensity) is the only thing that fully masks my T...and by fully I mean not a hint of tinnitus perception.

      Its a brain thing, not simply a perception thing. I threw the perception theory out the window a long time ago. If you HEAR it louder, then it IS louder.
       
    16. Engineer
      Creative

      Engineer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/20/15
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely acoustic hearing loss
      After wearing WNGs during the night, I found this went away completely. I'm not offering an explanation why, just my own personal experience. Before using WNGs I often woke up with the T blaring and had difficulty getting back to sleep. After I started using them this problem went away completely. It was a huge relief for me.
       
    17. Robert44

      Robert44 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New York
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud concert
      This used to happen to me.. waking up in the middle of the night with loud T. I would say the last few months that it doesn't happen anymore. Don't know why.....
       
    18. Mario martz
      Creative

      Mario martz Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2016
      This happens to me very often, i woke up in the middle of the night, with super loud t, then i started to think, and do breathing excersice and fall asleep again.

      other thing that happens to me, is that..
      sometimes i woke up and there is not T, this has happend to me at least 2 times, usually on sunday...
      and one time i was t free for 1 long hour, i didnt even want to move lol.
       
    19. Path Maker

      Path Maker Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic

      @Engineer What are WNGs, please?
       
    20. GregCA
      Jaded

      GregCA Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis
      White Noise Generators
       
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    21. jross7

      jross7 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      NE Pa.
      Tinnitus Since:
      4/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      @engineerDo you use them all day and night too ? Is is a sound machine or a hearing aid type? Thanks tons!
       
    22. Engineer
      Creative

      Engineer Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/20/15
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely acoustic hearing loss
      Later reply sorry. When doing Trt
      You wear them as much as possible To aid habituation. They are like hearing aids in form, but generate white noise to decrease your reaction to your T over time. I wear them infrequently now, they helped me to habituated.
       
    23. SilverSpiral
      Sad

      SilverSpiral Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ACOUSTIC TRAUMA
      Weapons of Nuclear Gestruction
       
    24. Canador

      Canador Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown

      I once heard an explanation of this. It came from a totally different field of study.

      It said that when animals go to sleep, the brain turns up its volume to listen for predators. (If a person has tinnitus, it's going to turn that up too.)

      Here's a good example: Is there anyone here who's old enough to remember the days when millions of people bought clock radios to use as a morning alarm? Before bed, you'd set the volume of your radio, so your favorite station would wake you pleasantly in the morning. The only problem was the volume. What had seemed pleasant the night before, sounded like 300 decibels in the morning. So everyone had to get in the habit of setting the radio to barely audible the night before. Even decades ago, everyone was smart enough to see that the radio wasn't louder in the morning; their heads were.
       
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    25. RaZaH
      Dancing

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      My t is utterly catastrophic when I wake up , a wall of high frequencies. Absolutely insane, would last for a few days it it did not back off in 30 to 60 minutes.
       
    26. RaZaH
      Dancing

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Maybe its an evolutionary thing , you might wake up because of hearing a predator and need full alert ?
       
    27. Canador

      Canador Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown

      Yes...

      We think we're totally asleep, but our hearing is watching our back.

      It's cranked up and listening intently for the footfall of a tiger.
       
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    28. snow47
      Cold

      snow47 Member

      Location:
      Iran
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      I think pressure to jaw. I don't know.
      This happens to me. I wake nights with loud t.
       

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