Sound Therapy Called "Beyond Tinnitus"

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by calin, Aug 18, 2012.

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    1. calin
      Inspired

      calin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Oct 2011
      Found this by accident! What do you think?


      $399.99 - 699.99 Subscriptions

      http://www.beyondtinnitus.com/

      Get Tinnitus Relief in 3 Easy Steps...


      Tinnitus Matching

      Our Tinnitus Matching Program allows you to use our patent pending interface to define the specific frequency and loudness of your tinnitus as well as which ear hears it louder.

      Sound Therapy

      Using your tinnitus sound frequency and loudness, we generate customized sound therapy files that will target the specific areas of your brain that cause the perception of tinnitus.

      Music Therapy

      Our program generates customized and patent pending music therapy files that combine your favorite music with the sound therapy file. This allows you to listen to your favorite music while the sound therapy file is working in the background to reduce the activity of the brain cells that produce tinnitus.


      Tinnitus Sound Therapy - Explained by an Ear...
       
    2. ouch

      ouch Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/16/2013
      Does anyone know anything about this company? I'd like to give it a try but I don't find much about it. Anyone try it? Thoughts?
       
    3. stantheman

      stantheman Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/25/11
      Yes, I did. A waste of $300. Sound therapy offered through your computer. You have to be pretty computer savvy in order to get it working. Sadly, I'm not. I needed some help locally. I am currently undergoing Neuromonics therapy and counseling through the University of Iowa. I needed face to face interaction with a professional. Did not get this with "Beyond Tinnitus".
       
    4. sworthi245
      Balanced

      sworthi245 Member

      Location:
      United States, Northwest Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/02/12
      I did find the website and read about the therapy. I did not purchase anything from the company.

      What I found most interesting was the research from the founder, Dr. Alfred Tomatis. You can read about him on the website. He believed that the middle ear could be exercised by listening to classical music. The complexity of the music gives the middle ear a work out, and is supposed to help improve hearing overall.

      I downloaded Mozart Symphony 40 onto my phone earlier in my T and listened. It seemed to help, as I believe I have improved from my original state. The only bad problem with listening to Mozart is that all I could envision while listening to the music was classic Bugs Bunny cartoons... So much for sophistication. :rolleyes:

      I say start with Mozart, which is available on YouTube for free at the link below.

      Mozart - Symphony No. 40 in G minor, K. 550...


      It is quite spectacular to listen to, around 30 minutes for the full version.
       
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    5. mick

      mick Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2012
      Stan,

      Keep us updated on how Neuromonics is working for you.

      Just curious, what kind of music did you use with Beyond Tinnitus? Was it anything like the music on the Neuromonics device?

      mick
       
    6. jazz
      No Mood

      jazz Member Benefactor

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      eardrum rupture from virus; barotrauma from ETD
      I believe Beyond Tinnitus lets you bring your own music. They like mp3 files. From what I'm reading about compressed music, however, I now believe it's best to use old fashioned CDs. CDs have the full spectrum of sounds, whereas Internet music files are always compressed. Even if you don't notice the missing sounds, your ears might--from a therapeutic standpoint, that is!
       
    7. stantheman

      stantheman Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/25/11
      Mick - I have made improvements with insomnia and depresssion. Still have some anxiety. Cannot say the improvements are all due to neuromonics since I also see a psychologist and physician for meds. Working together I have improved.

      The music is New Age stuff - boring.
       
    8. mick

      mick Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2012
      Stan,

      So you used new age stuff with both Beyond Tinnitus, and new age track on the Neuromonics device? The reason I'm asking is that I experimented with making my own notched music, but used music I liked and added some white noise to it. I found though that this notched music made my T worse. When I tried the Neuromonics device I liked the new age as well as baroque tracks, and just was wondering if the type of music might make a difference in the effectiveness.

      mick
       
    9. stantheman

      stantheman Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/25/11
      Mick - I downloaded classical music from iTunes to use with Beyond Tinnitus. I really do not think classical or the New Age music makes any difference at least for me.
       
    10. erik
      Breezy

      erik Manager Staff Benefactor

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      I have not used it but know of a few others who have. I remember them saying it was complicated to use (not as user friendly as it could be) and not much better than other offerings such as Audio Notch.
       
    11. jes
      Familiar

      jes Member Benefactor

      Location:
      copenhagen denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2012
      hay i have just bought beyond tinnitus can somebody help me with the pc i am not so trained
       
    12. Markku
      Inspired

      Markku Director Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      @jes,

      What problems are you having?

      erik said before you that according to what he remembers others telling it's not very user friendly.

      stantheman also said that one needs to be quite computer savvy to get it working...

      One would think that the company behind Beyond Tinnitus would help you with how to use it, especially considering the hefty price. Maybe ask them?
       
    13. jes
      Familiar

      jes Member Benefactor

      Location:
      copenhagen denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2012
      they are difficult to contact i think i get the Money back
       
    14. tokyotony
      Busy

      tokyotony Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2014
      I believe Beyond Tinnitus is a scam or has closed shop. There has been no response to my emails (and that is included in the basic package). I've also tried calling their Headquarters number and get a recording that the number is no longer a "working number". I tried their Enginneering number which is a Google Voice number and it goes to a recording.

      The software is buggy and I've been using computers for 30 years. Some of their instructions don't make sense.

      Very, very disappointed that I purchased this program. I would not suggest anyone purchase it at this point.
       
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    15. Joe S
      Mellow

      Joe S Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      I am week one into Beyond Tinnitus.

      1. They gave me good support. No bugs within the software now.
      2. They responded to every question I had.
      3. Beyond Tinntus works on the EXACT same concept a Neumonics but is much cheaper.
      4. It was $399 and I got phone support/remote support

      So, IF Neumonics works, then Beyond Tinnitus will work. It is not a scam.

      If Beyond Tinnitus DOES work, I will be its biggest supporter. If not, I will say it's a waste. However, it is not a scam. Ginkgo is a scam!
       
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    16. jazz
      No Mood

      jazz Member Benefactor

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      eardrum rupture from virus; barotrauma from ETD
      Thank you for this information!:) Yes, please keep up updated regularly with your progress. If it works for your, others will want to try it.

      Did they give you an approximate time period for the therapy to work? With sound therapies, it usually takes many months--but that's fine as long as you get a good result.

      What else did they tell you to expect? Some sound therapies, for example, may temporary increase your tinnitus but it should go back to baseline and, eventually lower.

      I am glad they are giving you good tech support. This has been a weak area for this company.
       
    17. Joe S
      Mellow

      Joe S Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Yes, 6 months. Listen to sounds 2-4 hours per day.

      You match your tinnitus (using their software) and it creates a "sound therapy" file. I don't combine it with music, but their software does allow for that.

      The concept of brain plasticity does make sense as a treatment. The brain can learn to change its perception of the ringing.

      Any sound therapy that uses brain plasticity will take many months to work. It's like recovering from a stroke and your brain has to "relearn" what it has lost.

      Like I said, IF Neumonics works then Beyond Tinnitus should work to REDUCE the perception of tinnitus
       
    18. Joe S
      Mellow

      Joe S Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Ok, at this point my tinnitus is starting to lower somewhat. I listen 4+ hours per day with earphones, at a very low volume. Now, at times, the therpay sounds will be done playing a I don't notice they are finished playing.

      It is still too early to evaluate the product, but I am creating a new therpay file with lower pitch now. I listen to this therpay file a lot!

      Not ready to "bless" this product, but good, something is happening.
       
    19. dluep1
      Doubtful

      dluep1 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2000
      wondering about this myself I went to UCI. and they recommend hearing aids. on the way out they gave me a pamphlet about beyond tinnitus. glad to hear you are getting some help out of it. I have tried calling and emailing them and no response, their Facebook page has not been updated for around a year. I am hesitant to drop $400 bucks and get no support.
       
    20. Atlantis

      Atlantis Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2014
      If a company doesn't respond to emails and don't update their online channels, why would you give your money to them.

      Forget about it...

      I don't even need to say that if this treatment was effective, we would all be in the know...
       
    21. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      I would just try Mozart Sonata, as it's been proven in studies to work.

      It's this one in particular that seems to work. Listen for 1 hour a day, for one month. Afterwards, listen to Beethoven's Für Elise sonata for 1 hour a day, for one month.

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23025336

      Mozart - Sonata for Two Pianos in D, K. 448...


      Beethoven - Für Elise (60 Minutes Version)
       
    22. Nucleo

      Nucleo Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2011
      But then neuromonics doesn't work.
       
    23. Huck48

      Huck48 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      O7/2011
      If you choose Beyond Tinnitus I don't recommend paying the extra for their so called extra help. If you ask a three part question they take their time to answer and usually only answer one part ignoring the rest. Very user unfriendly. After your subscription they refuse to communicate with you at all.
       
    24. Alue

      Alue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Is it similar to this:

      Tinnitus music therapy-A do it yourself guide


      I haven't tried it, but came across it the other day.
       
    25. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      East Coast USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1998
    26. Alue

      Alue Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
    27. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      East Coast USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      1998
      Yes, I think so.

      I haven't actually attempted this with any diligence. In my case, my hearing on the left drops a lot at 12-14 khz, but I am still able to hear those frequencies; I can hear up into the 16-17 range at least. Sounds up in those ranges drive me bloody bonkers, though, so the idea of subjecting myself to them at louder volumes for 2 hours a day is... not super attractive. Like, if my tinnitus gets a bit better but I stick a screwdriver through my eye socket as a result of the treatment it's probably not a net gain for my quality of life.

      I also can't really say with any certainty that my ringing is all in the 12-14 range; some of it is actually significantly lower than that. When I try to pitch-match the most bothersome sounds, I always end up deciding it's 14/14.5 khz, but, if I can't actually hear external noise at 20 khz, then maybe some of it is a lot higher than 14 and I just can't match it.
       
    28. erniej
      Assassinator

      erniej Member

      Location:
      Massachusetts
      Tinnitus Since:
      1991
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not so sure now...
      I tried notch therapy. It worked great for 1 1/2 days and them came back with a vengance with both ears ringing. Don't spend any money for it. There are free websites.
      http://www.notchtherapy.com/
      https://tinnitusnotch.com/
      It's really hard to find the proper frequency pitch accuratly.
       

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