South Korean Clinic Treatment (Dr. Minbo Shim)

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by vaka, Nov 19, 2016.

    1. Rubenslash

      Rubenslash Member

      Location:
      Zurich
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad decisions
      Or your hidden hearing loss, you already mentioned you have difficulties understanding speech with background noise.

      I don't understand why you are still looking for a cause. It's so clear in your case: hearing loss.
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
    2. Rasmus
      Cool

      Rasmus Member

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      around 02/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure maybe to much noise
      because it would be nice to know :) for sure, im not a expert in this i just know there is hearing loss and hidden hearing loss :)
       
    3. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Possibly . What freq is your T ?
       
    4. Rasmus
      Cool

      Rasmus Member

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      around 02/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure maybe to much noise
      I would say i have some T sound around the 15000-16000, but its hard to tell because when i listing to it my T goess down in volum, and i also a few other tunes :/ but i would say my T is in the high Hz area :)
       
    5. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      I cannot for the life of me understand why one dude in Korea has the key to fixing hearing and multibillion companies dont, anyone have any theories ?
       
      • Agree Agree x 3
    6. mcgregor

      mcgregor Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Scotland
      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      may be the Korean dude has just by passed all the mice and rats, and went straight for the glory on human's
       
      • Like Like x 2
    7. Jake007

      Jake007 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Nebraska
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss for long time, chainsaw, infections
      I totally agree with you raza, if one guy in a clinic can do it you'd sure think those big companies would have even further effective treatment. If I ever win the lottery I am taking all of us there and we aren't leaving till we are happy.
       
      • Like Like x 3
    8. spingee
      Wtf

      spingee Member

      We still dont know what he does...
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
    9. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      so, what do you guys think , should we be taking this guy seriously ?
      I have been in contact with him , he says he can help for sure ....who the hell knows?
       
    10. Jake007

      Jake007 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Nebraska
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss for long time, chainsaw, infections
      I take him seriously, haven't had contact with him but everything I've read and watched seems legit to me and I would most definitely go if I had 30 grand.
       
      • Like Like x 1
    11. Jake007

      Jake007 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Nebraska
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss for long time, chainsaw, infections
      Someone on here said ateos threw the kitchen sink at his t. I'm willing to throw the bathtub at mine but I'm not rich.
       
      • Like Like x 2
    12. Bobby B
      Fine

      Bobby B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Large caliber rifles&machine guns, +30 years of loud clubs
      the Korean government is supporting stem cells research quite aggressively as an attempt to pull the country out of recession.

      But I just read a paper from 2015 which says its very hard for the injected cells to even survive for long inside the high potassium environment of the cochlea so who knows ..
       
      • Like Like x 1
    13. Michael Larsen
      Surfing

      Michael Larsen Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      He could just sell his research / treatment to a huge multibillion companies, so he did not need to work any more?
       
      • Like Like x 1
    14. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Why 30 grand ? Its 6 grand per ear.
       
    15. Jake007

      Jake007 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Nebraska
      Tinnitus Since:
      December 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss for long time, chainsaw, infections
      I was thinking of the one ateos went to, thanks for the correction.
       
    16. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      I think they have it but they have to go through the procedure...
       
    17. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Possibly , but I would think they would still promote it , for stock price purposes etc.
      Don't you think we would at least have some sort of press release ?
       
    18. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      I don't think he discovered a new molecule... He's just using public data from research articles. His main use is growth factors check several page before this one
       
    19. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      What is that ? Different from stem cell ?
       
    20. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      Well there are a lot of research article on what helps hearing loss. Plus there are at least 3 companies that aim to start clinical trial next year so it's just a matter of time.

      And I think companies are focused on curing profound and severe hearing loss, by creating new hair cell. I don't think this guy treatment create new hair cell, it most likely repair the ones that are damaged but still alive.
       
      • Like Like x 2
    21. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      Yes I'm no expert but it is like a substance that promote reparation of cells.
      The thing that Liberman wants to use to cure T and H is a growth factors for example. This one will promote the reconnection of the synapses that are disconnected from the cochlea
       
      • Like Like x 2
    22. VRZ78

      VRZ78 Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Viral Infection
      For me it's obvious that the guy studied the latest research papers on hearing loss and as he seems to be a competent doctor he was able to try them himself. There is no way he found his own treatment. Maybe he combined different things I don't know.
      Or he stole the recipes from Heller lab lol
       
      • Like Like x 2
    23. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
    24. Twitch

      Twitch Member

      Location:
      Earth
      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Haha well spotted
       
    25. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
    26. Rasmus
      Cool

      Rasmus Member

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      around 02/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure maybe to much noise
      Well i hope so :D but little hard to believe only time will tell :)
       
    27. Rubenslash

      Rubenslash Member

      Location:
      Zurich
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad decisions
      What make you believe this?

      There are 3 biotech companies starting trials in 2018, perhaps (most likely in my opinion) they already have a better product now than this Korean guy, we don't know.
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
    28. Michael Larsen
      Surfing

      Michael Larsen Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2000
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noice
      I think that they have a better product, but it's just a long time to wait 5 - 7 years for this comes on the market, if we are very lucky.
       
      • Like Like x 2
    29. RaZaH
      Cheeky

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Well, hes already applying his technique , most trials so far have been unsuccessful or possibly successful in 5-10 years
       
    30. Rubenslash

      Rubenslash Member

      Location:
      Zurich
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bad luck and bad decisions
      I am talking about hearing regeneration trials. There is only one ongoing trial (GenVec) and the others will start in 2018. You are referring to trials about a T cure, I am not talking about this.

      And what do you expect? That a large biotech/pharma company starts to deliver regenerative therapies without a clinical trial? They would lose their license to operate in any medical field.
       
Loading...

Share This Page