Stroke Victim Cured of Tinnitus

[Brian32]

The doctor in this article suffered from tinnitus for 40 years before having a stroke which cured him. The stroke did not cause any hearing loss but it did eliminate the ringing in his ears. This appears to be evidence that tinnitus lies in the brain and not the ear.


http://discovermagazine.com/2010/oct/26-ringing-in-the-ears-goes-much-deeper

 

[Erlend]

Yeah, but maybe you could still fix it by fixing the ear?

It's like the triangle of fire. To get fire, you need 1) High temperature 2) Something that can burn and 3) Oxygen

Remove one, and the fire goes away.

Fix the ear, T goes away

Fix the b rain, T goes away (but whatever caused T in the ear is still happening, but the brain is fixed so it doesn't respond, and create T


Just a theory obviously lol

 

[Grace]

The doctor in this article suffered from tinnitus for 40 years before having a stroke which cured him. The stroke did not cause any hearing loss but it did eliminate the ringing in his ears. This appears to be evidence that tinnitus lies in the brain and not the ear.


http://discovermagazine.com/2010/oct/26-ringing-in-the-ears-goes-much-deeper

This is also just proof that chronic T is not impossible to be cured... Something happened in his brain when he had a
Stroke which made the T dissapear... This would have never happened if the brain "memorizes" T....

 

[Grace]

Yeah, but maybe you could still fix it by fixing the ear?

It's like the triangle of fire. To get fire, you need 1) High temperature 2) Something that can burn and 3) Oxygen

Remove one, and the fire goes away.

Fix the ear, T goes away

Fix the b rain, T goes away (but whatever caused T in the ear is still happening, but the brain is fixed so it doesn't respond, and create T


Just a theory obviously lol

great theory!!!!!!

 

[Brian32]

You could be correct and really we have no way of knowing. Personally, I think its damaged cells/nerves in the auditory cortex. It reminds me of an experience I had in college where lightning struck the telephone box outside of my apartment. That surge of energy traveled through my telephone wires and into my computer frying the modem. Now the telephone box outside was damaged and needed to be repaired by the telephone company, but my computer would still not have been able to connect to the internet if I had not replaced the modem.

I honestly think its these damaged cells in the brain which cause this phantom sound. The stroke this guy had most likely finished the damaged cells off.

Yeah, but maybe you could still fix it by fixing the ear?

It's like the triangle of fire. To get fire, you need 1) High temperature 2) Something that can burn and 3) Oxygen

Remove one, and the fire goes away.

Fix the ear, T goes away

Fix the b rain, T goes away (but whatever caused T in the ear is still happening, but the brain is fixed so it doesn't respond, and create T


Just a theory obviously lol

 

[Hudson]

You could be correct and really we have no way of knowing. Personally, I think its damaged cells/nerves in the auditory cortex. It reminds me of an experience I had in college where lightning struck the telephone box outside of my apartment. That surge of energy traveled through my telephone wires and into my computer frying the modem. Now the telephone box outside was damaged and needed to be repaired by the telephone company, but my computer would still not have been able to connect to the internet if I had not replaced the modem.

I honestly think its these damaged cells in the brain which cause this phantom sound. The stroke this guy had most likely finished the damaged cells off.

Yes, but your modem and wires don't have the ability to spontaneously adapt plastic ally to a change in the system. Your brain does.

 

[Brian32]

The brain can adapt after cells die and other cells can perform the function of the cells that died. But what about cells that are damaged but don't die? Could it be malfunctioning cells that cause the sound?

Yes, but your modem and wires don't have the ability to spontaneously adapt plastic ally to a change in the system. Your brain does.

 

[Hudson]

The brain can adapt after cells die and other cells can perform the function of the cells that died. But what about cells that are damaged but don't die? Could it be malfunctioning cells that cause the sound?

It could be. This is a lot of supposition here, without a lot of stuff to back it up. So my opinion is just that, I guess.

 

[carlover]

where do you get these stokes from?

theres a tai massage parlour off my hight st i might try there.

 

[Mark McDill]

I guess you could say he had a stroke of good luck...

Sorry, I just couldn't resist (forgive me, I'm weak).

 

[t-man]

I know a guy who had chronic pain in his right arm. After his stroke, he lost control over the right side of his body. Wouldn't you know, the pain went away.

 

[Shambles]

so ive been eating big macs for 6 straight days..i hope to report back on the efficacy of the treatment any day now

 

[Brian32]

Pfft I got you beat, I had 6 big macs just this morning. Plus two quarter pounders. To be honest though, I considered what would be worse at one point, having to listen to this incessant noise for the rest of my life or only having the use of one side of my face. I almost chose the stroke.

so ive been eating big macs for 6 straight days..i hope to report back on the efficacy of the treatment any day now

 

[WendyS]

Very interesting.

 

[Hudson]

Pfft I got you beat, I had 6 big macs just this morning. Plus two quarter pounders. To be honest though, I considered what would be worse at one point, having to listen to this incessant noise for the rest of my life or only having the use of one side of my face. I almost chose the stroke.

I recently ate 5 Baconators from Wendy's for dinner. My heart gave out shortly thereafter and I woke up 3 days later in the hospital. As I was laying in the bed somewhat disoriented, a beautiful woman riding a flaming Harley Davidson crashed through the wall. She gave me a man card for having passed the test handed down to me by the gods. We made love for several hours straight after that, at which point she peeled away on her Harley Davidson. It was the greatest day of my life.

 

[Champ]

It's almost like it can be fixed or something

 

[Picassocat]

I had a stroke and was cured of my tinnitus for a long time, long enough to attend a concert. That turned out to be a mistake.

During the interlude, I had no tinnitus, but by the end of the concert, it had returned and never went away.

So yes, a stroke can cure you of tinnitus, but you may still remain susceptible to a recurrence.

 

[Nick47]

had a stroke and was cured of my tinnitus for a long time, long enough to attend a concert. That turned out to be a mistake.

During the interlude, I had no tinnitus, but by the end of the concert, it had returned and never went away.

So yes, a stroke can cure you of tinnitus, but you may still remain susceptible to a recurrence.

@Picassocat, did the tinnitus disappear immediately after the stroke, or did it go away after you received treatment for the stroke? Also, do you know which part of the brain was affected by the stroke?

 

[Ken219]

I had a stroke and was cured of my tinnitus for a long time, long enough to attend a concert. That turned out to be a mistake.

During the interlude, I had no tinnitus, but by the end of the concert, it had returned and never went away.

So yes, a stroke can cure you of tinnitus, but you may still remain susceptible to a recurrence.

If you are not joking, why would you expose yourself to loud noise?

 

[ThomasF]

In my view, this suggests that the brain may benefit from some form of reset. However, since strokes are often debilitating, they are not a viable option for treatment. Instead, this may represent a promising new direction for research.

 

[kingsfan]

Some have tried this "resetting" with Psilocybin and other psychedelics.

 

[Joeseph Stope]

Some have tried this "resetting" with Psilocybin and other psychedelics.

I think this is something for the courageous, the emergency unit, and the statisticians.

I do not want to discourage anyone, but does anyone know the success rate per hundred? Specifically, how many cases of chronic tinnitus have been cured permanently? What is the body count? What is the employment rate after treatment?

Any insights would be appreciated.

 

[BBBB]

I think this is something for the courageous, the emergency unit, and the statisticians.

I do not want to discourage anyone, but does anyone know the success rate per hundred? Specifically, how many cases of chronic tinnitus have been cured permanently? What is the body count? What is the employment rate after treatment?

Any insights would be appreciated.

In my opinion, it is risky to try Psilocybin at this point. I used it three times in the past when I was still "healthy," and I believe feeling depressed about your tinnitus could lead to the worst bad trip of your life.

That said, I do believe those who have said it cured or improved their condition. Each of the three times I tried it, I would listen to music loudly on a headset (oh, how I miss my headset or music in general). I discovered something strange—I could mentally "turn off" any instrument I wanted. No drums? Gone. Only the guitar? That was all I heard. It was an utterly surreal experience, but it made me wonder whether it might be possible to influence tinnitus in the same way.

Would I be able to turn off tinnitus too? But then, how would I react if it didn't work? What if it became louder? Could I permanently make it worse? That thought is too scary.

 

[Fields]

Some have tried this "resetting" with Psilocybin and other psychedelics.

I have been trying Psilocybin for more than a year now, gradually increasing the dosage. Recently, I have been taking 20 grams of magic truffles from the strongest strains I could find. I am now wondering if I should increase the dosage further.

So far, I have not experienced any of the typical effects associated with Psilocybin. It mostly just makes me feel tired or gives me a sensation similar to being oddly drunk.

Edit: I have not experienced any negative effects so far.

 

[Sironketchup]

I have been trying Psilocybin for more than a year now, gradually increasing the dosage. Recently, I have been taking 20 grams of magic truffles from the strongest strains I could find. I am now wondering if I should increase the dosage further.

So far, I have not experienced any of the typical effects associated with Psilocybin. It mostly just makes me feel tired or gives me a sensation similar to being oddly drunk.

Edit: I have not experienced any negative effects so far.

I've heard that truffles are very weak compared to real magic mushrooms.

 

[momus]

I never tried truffles, but back in the day we knew a few cow fields that regularly produced potent mushrooms. We could tell if there were mushrooms in the field just by watching the cows. If they were walking around, there was nothing. But if they were lying down with goofy expressions, we knew the field would be golden.

The only issue was estimating the dosage, since each batch was different. One especially memorable batch was prepared for a concert we were planning to attend. We drove the 70 miles to the coliseum and had almost reached the entrance when we suddenly remembered the mushroom juice we had left in the car. We went back, quickly drank it, and about ten steps later, I didn't recognize anything around me. It was an instant trip.

 

[Fields]

I've heard that truffles are very weak compared to real magic mushrooms.

Correct, that's why you need to take higher doses. It also differs per strain and whether you eat them fresh or dried.

Personal tolerance and other factors play a role. Recently, a friend of mine was experiencing quite an intense trip on about 7g or 8g of Valhalla truffles while I was barely experiencing anything.

As @momus correctly points out, effects can also wildly differ per batch.

 

[2noist]

Correct, that's why you need to take higher doses. It also differs per strain and whether you eat them fresh or dried.

Personal tolerance and other factors play a role. Recently, a friend of mine was experiencing quite an intense trip on about 7g or 8g of Valhalla truffles while I was barely experiencing anything.

As @momus correctly points out, effects can also wildly differ per batch.

They really should explore the use of Psilocybin, MDMA, and LSD in combination with bimodal stimulation treatments. What if this makes everything significantly more effective?