The Dentist

Discussion in 'Support' started by coffee_girl, Aug 5, 2018.

    1. coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      I go to the Dentist twice every year for a cleaning and learned that drilling can cause tinnitus spikes, previous to this I never had issues with dentist visits even with tinnitus and have even worn my ear plugs while in the process (never had spikes and my tinnitus did no worsen). Now that I have learned better I was reading some of the posts here about dental work and got a little confused:

      1. Should I do manual teeth cleaning and does it have the same result as the drilling? Do most places offer this?

      2. Are there people out there who don't get spikes after going to the Dentist and going through the "normal" procedures?
       
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    2. john paul
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      john paul Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/11/17
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      You should be fine at the dentist as long as they are not doing any grinding prior to filling a cavity. Cleaning, scaling, polishing tools hardly make any noise.

      I still use my electric toothbrush with no problems also.
       
    3. AUTHOR
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      coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      I don't need any fillings or anything removed, just basic cleaning...they don't do drilling for this right?
       
    4. Tinker Bell

      Tinker Bell Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL from virus
      Are you confusing drilling with ultrasonic cleaning? They do not drill out cavities if you do not have a cavity.
       
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      AUTHOR
      coffee_girl
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      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      Yeah I think i got a little confused there, thanks for pointing it out. I was talking about cleaning.
       
    6. john paul
      English

      john paul Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/11/17
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma
      No, you will be fine, cleaning tools really dont make much noise at all. I went a few months ago and was like oh no please don't clean them or anything, but then when he showed me how quiet they are i was like oh yeah why was i so worried. Its just the grinder they use for doing fillings, thats the loud one.
       
    7. Starthrower
      Wtf

      Starthrower Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      January 2002
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Dental Surgery
      @coffee_girl as fearful as I am of the dreaded dentist...I get my teeth cleaned and checked twice a year. The cleaning never really bothers my tinnitus. It isn't exactly a wonderful experience but necessary and pretty much painless. It is a bit annoying - but this is so important for your dental health.

      Some people prefer the manual like myself and some recommend ultrasonic cleaning.
       
    8. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      Thanks guys! Really appreciate it.
       
    9. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      A number of people on this forum had their tinnitus go into debilitating territory after an ultrasonic cleaning (if you want to read their horror stories, just search this forum). There is no reason to do it, as manual cleaning is just as effective, costs the same, and takes the same amount of time. No dental hygienist will refuse to clean your teeth manually, if you ask them.

      Consider having your teeth cleaned once every 3-4.5 months (to reduce the need to do any dental work in the future), and having a dentist look over your teeth to catch any cavities early on (so that a quiet laser drill could be used, and if that will not be possible, at least the drill will be used for a shorter amount of time).
       
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    10. DT_N_DA_CLUB

      DT_N_DA_CLUB Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2011
      I had a really bad spike from ultrasonic cleaner. For me it wasn't loud until they were cleaning my molars. Other fillings and drilling I had done didn't effect my tinnitus.
       
    11. housemzk

      housemzk Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 18, 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      concussions, wisdom teeth removal, neck, jaw, stress, noise?
      This should be a poll. How many people get a manual cleaning at the dentist vs the ulstrasonic cleaning...

      Since tinnitus I get the manual cleaning. After I told my youngerish dentist I have tinnitus and need the manual cleaning now, he mentioned he has mild tinnitus too and that his dad and uncle both have Meniere's...
       
    12. Tex

      Tex Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Exposure
      Ultrasonic cleaning kills me!!!
       
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    13. Sean

      Sean Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01-01-2011
      Hi Bill... hope you are well. I went to the dentist and they did manual scaling yesterday. Towards the very end she was like let me scrape off the plaque with an ultrasonic cleanser. She did it with a very very long setting for about 2 minutes. Saliva suction was continuously on. I have a tinnitus spike now. Doesn’t make sense, this much noise would cause a tinnitus spike? Makes no sense.
       
    14. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Unfortunately these things cause serious spikes all of the time. Hopefully it will eventually come back to your baseline. Temporary spikes can take longer than three months to go away (the fading usually begins by week 3-6).
       
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    15. Bill Bauer
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      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Turns out that just asking a dentist to look at your teeth when you have your teeth cleaned isn't enough (as I found out the hard way). They need to see an x-ray image in order to catch cavities early...
       
    16. Sean

      Sean Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01-01-2011
      I have had tinnitus for I think 9 -10 years and have had plenty of spikes.
      It still scares me! This really beats me though. How can just a 1-2 minutes of cleaning at a low setting cause a spike?
       
    17. Yoshi
      Wishful

      Yoshi Member

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      June 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Earphones, Bus Braking, Burping (air enters ear canal)
      Ultrasonic cleaning caused me to permanently lose some hearing in both ears without a spike, but this is a pretty rare occurrence. I would highly suggest you ask in advance for a manual cleaning. Ultrasonic cleaners operate at tens of thousands of hertz, at decibels well above the recommended limit of 85 dB, and when they touch your teeth they transmit the noise directly to your cochlea through bone conduction.
       
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    18. Sean

      Sean Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01-01-2011
      Good point. Cleaner was at a very low setting and she had done manual scaling first. Only towards the end for about 2 minutes she used the ultrasonic cleaner.

      I just realized my electronic brush is much louder than the cleaner she was using. I just brushed my teeth and I just can’t imagine the cleaner would have caused a spike since my brush is much louder. I am baffled!

      Very strange you lost your hearing because of this! Did you lose it right away after cleaning?
       
    19. Yoshi
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      Yoshi Member

      Location:
      Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      June 2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Earphones, Bus Braking, Burping (air enters ear canal)
      I realized my hearing was off when I woke up the morning after, got a hearing test a week later and the test showed a 5-10 dB drop in the mid frequencies for both ears, got another test but at a different location that confirmed it wasn't just a fluctuation. Ultrasonic scalers usually have different settings, and the loudness doesn't only depend on the setting, but also how closely the scaler tip is applied to the tooth. The hygienist's choice of setting and application depends on how much calculus there is and for me there was a significant amount (my fault). I use an Oral-B electric toothbrush as well, but the vibrations don't bother me at all and are nowhere close to the intensity of that cleaning session, which sounded like a circular saw in my ear for minutes at a time. Definitely try to avoid the ultrasonic scaler since it's not a medically necessary tool.
       
    20. Michael B
      Supportive

      Michael B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Earbuds
      Had a cavity filled the other day and despite using earplugs my tinnitus reacted badly through the next day. Second day in things were back to normal.
       
    21. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Do you think electric toothbrushes are okay? Don't cause spikes or hearing loss?
       
    22. Tybs

      Tybs Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Fall from stairs
      My electric toothbrush generates a spike almost by default, in an area below my left ear that's usually silent. It does fade within 10 minutes though, so I don't really care much. It can have some influence, but I don't think its anything worth to worry about.
       
    23. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Ear plugs don't help because the impact creating the noise is in your mouth - thus, bone conduction. In fact, using ear plugs can make it (seem?) louder.

      It sounds like NC headphones might be an option, though. Are they?
       
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    24. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      My tinnitus was likely caused by one of those ultrasonic toothbrushes coming into contact with my ear canal for a fraction of a second. Three years ago.
       
    25. Michael B
      Supportive

      Michael B Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Earbuds
      @PeteJ I have noise canceling headphones. Forgot to bring them!
       
    26. Sean

      Sean Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      01-01-2011
      Bill, you had told me about that incident but that was a direct touch inside your ears... but you are right, vibrations can pass to hair cells via jaw bones - who freaking knows!

      I am just pissed at myself because I allowed the hygienist to do the cleaning when I could have simply said no!
       
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    27. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      You might want to stop using your electric brush.
       
    28. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      I stopped using mine.
       
    29. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      Can someone suggest NC headphones - that are good enough for a dental visit so not too expensive? Something under $100 is possible? Do they have to be branded "active?" I came across $67 ones on Amazon, for e.g., but I don't think I can get them before my appointment.

      Is there any chance the dentist has them? I doubt my dentist has them but the ultrasonic cleaning is probably the most common and maybe they give them out for that?
       
    30. PeteJ
      Depressed

      PeteJ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic trauma?
      What else did you do at the dentist?

      Should I only go if I have NC headphones?

      A few people say to use magnesium (and NAC?) after? Do I need these?

      I don't know if I should go now. :(
       

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