The 'Love Hormone' (Oxytocin) May Quiet Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Research News' started by Tim Hogan, Sep 23, 2016.

    1. lapidus

      lapidus Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I wouldn't trust that one. I'm 99% sure it's just tap water like everything on amazon etc that claims to be oxytocin nasal spray for two reasons:
      1. It's sold from a site called "super-nutrition" which rings a warning and indicates that they do not sell stuff that can be considered actual medication but rather nutritional supplements.
      2. The producer behind that brand of oxytocin is called "Smart Publications" and from my brief research they seem to be a alternative/nature medicine web publication that mostly promotes nutritional supplements.

      I call homeopathic bullshit. Contact a doctor instead.

      EDIT: Oh, and I forgot.
      3. "Do not take if you are pregnant or breast-feeding" Well, the main use for oxytocin is to prescribe it to new mothers who are breast-feeding, so that doesn't really add up, does it?
       
      • Agree Agree x 2
    2. Anima

      Anima Member

      Location:
      Illes Balears
      Tinnitus Since:
      Feb 2004
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise trauma/metronidazole+kanamycin
      Thank you very much to you all for your comments and advice.

      You are quite right, it’s better not to run any risk with this stuff till more research is done and never trust certain places online mainly when it comes to medication.

      Best regards.
       
    3. HomeoHebbian
      Question it

      HomeoHebbian Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      Hey oxytocin fans, I'm chiming into this thread a bit late, with apologies if these points have already been raised.

      Oxytocin is a peptide that can be introduced exogenously (from outside your body) but there is a lot of debate as to whether and how it is able to cross the blood-brain barrier when inhaled with nasal sprays. Oxytocin is also synthesized endogenously (from inside your body) by an evolutionarily ancient nucleus in your brainstem called the hypothalamus. The nerve cells that naturally create oxytocin release this chemical during activities associated with intense pair bonding. For example, during orgasm and breastfeeding.

      There was a beautiful study published a few years back in the most prestigious science journal in the land about the actions of oxytocin release in the auditory cortex of mice. When new mothers are listening to the pathetic sounds of their infant pups cries it turns on their oxytocin centers and changes the physiology of their auditory cortex in a long-lasting way.

      This plasticity is achieved by changing the recuitment of GABAergic inhibitory "silencing" neurons. Is this ringing any bells (haha) for people here in the context of tinnitus? Most scientists think that dysregulation of these GABA neurons in the auditory processing centers of the brain is a essential factor (maybe THE essential factor) that creates the perception of the phantom sound.

      http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v520/n7548/full/nature14402.html
       
      • Like Like x 2
      • Informative Informative x 1
    4. lapidus

      lapidus Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      You aren't late. In fact, you were one of the first posters in this thread and you posted that mouse study back then too ;)
       
      • Funny Funny x 1
    5. Fabrikat

      Fabrikat Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1973
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otosclerosis then volume then viral infection
      Then one could expect tinnitus to diminish in humans during these activities. Even slightly. But it doesn't.
       
    6. linearb
      Psychedelic

      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      beliefs are makyo and reality ignores them
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      karma
      My tinnitus was at a ~5 year low for the first month that my new baby was in the house with us and I was getting lots of skin-to-skin contact which is known to release these hormones. Of course, I was also off work for a month which meant less stress and less postural tension on my neck/shoulders/jaw, so it's a little hard to say.

      I've experimented with an oxytocin nasal spray furnished by a somewhat shady Asian company that sells it for Autism control; if it is indeed oxytocin, consuming it in this way does not have any significant effect on my tinnitus, or on my overall psychological state. It makes me feel a little warm and flushed for a few minutes, and makes my sinuses burn slightly, and that's about it.
       
      • Informative Informative x 2
    7. HomeoHebbian
      Question it

      HomeoHebbian Member Benefactor

      Location:
      United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise exposure
      Haha. Oh wow, that is embarrassing. My poor, porous memory...
       
    8. IvanRus

      IvanRus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ototoxicity
      In my opinion this is nonsense.
      Does oxytocin reduce tinnitus?
      In my opinion, oxytocin gives exactly the opposite effect - it increases tinnitus.
      Every time I fall in love with a woman, tinnitus and anxiety intensifies.
      It's terrible - now I even have to avoid such a beautiful feeling as love.
      Tell me, maybe someone else?
       
    9. Silvio Sabo
      Pooptoast

      Silvio Sabo Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Gothenburg, Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise - I think
      You said it your self. "Every time I fall in love with a woman, tinnitus and anxiety intensifies." That would be because of the anxiety and not increase of Oxytocin. Increasing levels of Oxytocin WITHOUT the anxiety is a different thing and could perhaps lower tinnitus.
       
      • Agree Agree x 2
    10. IvanRus

      IvanRus Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      ototoxicity
      Indeed, an experimental study of oxytocin for nasal administration as a tinnitus therapy was conducted.

      The result showed a significant decrease in the noise after applying oxytocin as a nasal spray.

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28983279?log$=activity

      The question is why did not anyone commercialize this treatment, and did not even bring it into clinical practice?

      Apparently, because no one cares about tinnitus, everyone only spits on it.


      This once again highlights the importance of the work of volunteers, community workers and all of us on Tinnitus Talk in uncovering the problem and communicating with the authorities and researchers about the need for speedy treatment of this condition.
       
      • Agree Agree x 4
      • Like Like x 1
    11. Silvio Sabo
      Pooptoast

      Silvio Sabo Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Gothenburg, Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2006
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise - I think
      I'm pretty sure they are doing further investigations. The paper is about 1 year old. If it had been 10 years old it would have been a different story.
       
    12. WaqasVic
      Artistic

      WaqasVic Member

      Location:
      Pakistan
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      My T is way different than all of you , ask me how
      Couldn't agree more.
       
    13. Don Tinny

      Don Tinny Member

      Location:
      Argentina
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017 (worsening)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud concert with ear plugs
      Try convincing a doctor to prescribe that hormone to reduce T. Its almost impossible
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
    14. EDDTEKK

      EDDTEKK Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      In a German discussion board somebody claimed that after taking this nasal drug her tinnitus disappeared for some time. How can we get this oxytocin nasal drug?
      University of Regensburg proposed her to take max 7 puffs in each nose per day.
      I am willing to test this but don’t know how to get it :( in Germany
       
      • Like Like x 1
    15. AliceW

      AliceW Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma - loud noise
      I tried oxytocin nasal spray several days (I bought it on a secure internet website, I live in France) and later, when I delivered my baby, Doctors injected me a very high dose of oxytocin hormone... but it had absolutely no effect on my tinnitus !!! :(
       
      • Informative Informative x 2
    16. EDDTEKK

      EDDTEKK Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
      Hi Alice
      Thank you for your feedback. It seems that for some people there is an effect while for others not. Who knows why...
      I will ask my psychiatrist if he knows some way to buy it or get prescribed.
       
      • Like Like x 2
    17. GlennS

      GlennS Member Podcast Patron Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1992
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      The best way to deliver this treatment is the natural method, by having a significant other.

      I put into my introductory bio that through convergent evolution I stumbled on various coping strategies. It's almost like my body knew what sorts of activities took the edge off and I naturally started doing it more (or at least wanted to do it more) to the point of addiction. Honeymoon hotel-grade marathon makeouts and sex is the way to go, and worthy of its own thread. Of course, the trick is you need to have a willing participant. I know Sting has T and is notorious for being into tantric sex. For all we know that's why he's into it.
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
    18. Flamingo1

      Flamingo1 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Orlando, FL
      Tinnitus Since:
      4-15-2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma
      There's a better chance of Frequency Therapeutics restoring hearing than there is of me finding love. I'm placing my bet on Fx!
       
      • Funny Funny x 5
      • Agree Agree x 1
    19. ChrisBoyMonkey

      ChrisBoyMonkey Member

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      2019
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      • Informative Informative x 3
      • Agree Agree x 1
      • Helpful Helpful x 1
    20. Thuan

      Thuan Member

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection right ear 2018. Sound trauma left ear 2020.
      I've accidentally stumbled upon this on the ClinicalTrials.gov website.

      On PubMed, there was a pilot study, which found out that Oxytocin nasal spray reduced Tinnitus Functional Index by ~20 points in 10 subjects. Link is here.

      There's an ongoing clinical study pilot by NYU Langone Health medical center investigating a high dosage Oxytocin nasal spray with 30 participants. The study ends in January, 2021. Link is here.

      This is more interesting if it can provide some temporary tinnitus relief for all of us who will be waiting for years for other popular treatments/research on tinnitus and regenerative hearing.

      However, as with other hormonal drugs, there are side effects, which might make Oxytocin unsuitable to take for the long term but on the short term, for the really bad tinnitus days, it appears really attractive.

      I haven't don't any extensive research except a search on Tinnitus Talk yields only two threads with nonsensical jokes about the "love hormone" which is not helpful.
       
    21. Kendra

      Kendra Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSNHL/ Acoustic Trauma
      I’ve thought about asking my doctor for oxytocin spray. Not sure they would prescribe it though.
       
    22. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cracow, Poland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      I think it's available online with no prescription.
       
    23. ajc

      ajc Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      Oxytocin nasal sprays online are a scam. Ineffective.

      Oxytocin needs to be refrigerated, and you won't find online shops that deliver it refrigerated (too expensive a shipping method).

      It degrades very quickly without refrigeration.
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • Agree Agree x 1
      • Informative Informative x 1
    24. Capstan

      Capstan Guest

      I had an osteopath prescribe Oxytocin for me. Local compounding pharmacy delivered it on ice. I had the low dosage from the PubMed, not the high dose that NYU is doing.

      It did nothing for me. It didn't even do anything as a love hormone... It wasn't worth the effort trying to get the legit product.

      What @ajc says is accurate -- stay away from buying it online.
       
      • Like Like x 2
      • Informative Informative x 1
    25. Isabella 123
      Curious

      Isabella 123 Member

      Location:
      Chapel Hill NC
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably traumatic noise event
      • Informative Informative x 3
      • Like Like x 1
    26. tommyd87

      tommyd87 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      tmj music
      I predict that this would probably be about as effective as the placebo in the clinical trial about to get started.
       
      • Agree Agree x 1
    27. Isabella 123
      Curious

      Isabella 123 Member

      Location:
      Chapel Hill NC
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably traumatic noise event
      I’m not familiar with the brands but I am a retired postpartum doula and the Rx kind of oxytocin was very effective for the new mothers who used it to increase their milk supply. Maybe it depends on the brand of oxytocin spray that’s used? I certainly don’t think what Amazon sells would be worth anything. What I used with new mothers was a Rx.
       
      • Like Like x 1
      • Informative Informative x 1
    28. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cracow, Poland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      • Informative Informative x 2
      • Like Like x 1
    29. DebInAustralia
      No Mood

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
    30. Mentos

      Mentos Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Cracow, Poland
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2015
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced, loud rock concert
      Now, in a new trial at New York University, 30 patients will be given either oxytocin nasal spray or a placebo to use four times daily for six months. The results are expected by June next year.
       
      • Informative Informative x 2
      • Like Like x 1

Share This Page