Went to the ENT — Kind of Disappointed About the Visit — He Mentioned Tinnitus Retraining Therapy

Discussion in 'Support' started by Maureen777, Jan 18, 2019.

    1. Maureen777

      Maureen777 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Vancouver Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to loud music w earbuds & recent ear irrigation
      I finally had my ENT appointment today, after waiting for almost three months. He was a very nice man, but not extremely helpful. He did give me the name of a place that does Tinnitus Retraining Therapy. I think he said it's kind of expensive. And then I told him about this site, but he said he had never heard of it. He said it's a good thing for me to go on this site though.

      I'm kind of disappointed about the visit, but at least I have an ENT now, so I think I'll go back again in a month, and bring another list of questions with me.
       
    2. Cape crusader
      Cool

      Cape crusader Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/18/18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction ear wax removal
      They no nothing of what we go though unless you find one that suffers as well.
       
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    3. JohnAdams
      Festive

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Vatican
      Tinnitus Since:
      May 1st 2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aspirin Toxicity/Possibly Noise
      You should have told them about ENT Retraining Therapy.
       
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      Maureen777

      Maureen777 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Vancouver Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to loud music w earbuds & recent ear irrigation
      Yes, I should have. Lol
       
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      Maureen777

      Maureen777 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Vancouver Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to loud music w earbuds & recent ear irrigation
      Yes, I think you're right.
       
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    6. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      If you browse this forum more often then not, you probably seen my post about warning new comers to not waste time with ENT's are not useful unless it's to outrule a 8th nerve tumor. Everyone makes the same mistake of having urges to see an ENT can't solve anything. If tinnitus is distressing you it really is better to skip to a mental health therapist then an ENT.

      ENT's and audiologist cannot administer medicine repair a damaged inner ear outside of predisone in an very short term window. If they are smart they'll tell you to take magnesium as it has some benefit to hearing, but once again their are no medicines that directly restore damaged cochlear hair cells and nervous tissue associated with hair cells.

      TRT and hearing aids is pretty much all they are known for, they treat us like a flowchart dismissing our issues with a single mutter of the word "TRT".


      Did they check for hearing loss? ( did the test include listening in background noise/music?
       
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      Maureen777

      Maureen777 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Vancouver Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to loud music w earbuds & recent ear irrigation
      Yes, they did do a hearing test. But no, it didn't include listening in background noise/music. Thanks for all the info. I think I'll buy some magnesium today, guess it can't hurt to try. But not sure what kind and what strength to get.
       
    8. Contrast
      No Mood

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Clown World
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise injury
      Here's some more info that you may find interesting

      Recent research indicates that hearing test used at most audiology clinics and ENTs are extremely inaccurate, they only test for hearing loss within the human voice range, learn more here about hidden hearing loss (hearing loss in background noise)

      http://hyperacusisfocus.org/innerear/





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      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378595516302507


      The whole idea is that the traditional theory of hearing loss isn't wrong, but heavily over simplified and It was never looked into as audiology is a field of dogma.

      It is true hair cells die from noise exposure thus losing the ability to hear specific frequencies, but long before the hair cell dies during from loud noise abuse, certain nervous tissue attached to hair cells called "ribbon synapses" dies first.

      Each hair cell has 10 ribbon synapses, Hair cells lose ribbon synapses and background noise/music becomes difficult to understand but as you read it doesn't show up on their test because they don't look for it.


      A hearing loss model centric to human speech and not how the inner ear actually works is flawed if you ask me.
       
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      Maureen777

      Maureen777 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Vancouver Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Listening to loud music w earbuds & recent ear irrigation
      Thank you very much for all the info. Very interesting indeed!
       
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    10. kfog

      kfog Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      basketball/cardio? Unknown
      My ENT used a fancy camera to look in my ear, scratched his chin and sent me on my way with not even a theory of why I have tinnitus. Not to mention charging me multiple times across a years time for my one visit.
       
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