Why Doesn't the US Military Do More for Tinnitus Research?

Discussion in 'Awareness & Fundraising' started by all to gain, Aug 30, 2019.

    1. all to gain
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      I'm new to the forum and didn't really know where to post this question. it's not about a specific piece of research but a question of why more isn't being done by the US military to find a cure for tinnitus. After all, more is paid out on disability benefits for tinnitus than any other disability. I read somewhere a figure of 2.1 billion a year (although i have seen various figures).

      So just asking the question, why doesn't it do more? Just think if even 25% of 2.1 billion went into researching a cure for tinnitus.

      Thoughts? Anyone know how much the military spends at present on such research?

      Until the US military (and UK military etc) take this more seriously, I think we are going to be a long time waiting for any cure(s).

      Sorry if this isn't the right place for this.
       
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    2. ChrisBoyMonkey

      ChrisBoyMonkey Member Podcast Patron

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      The DoD is funding Dr. Tzounopoulos at the University of Pittsburgh a month other research, but yes they should be doing a lot more, especially with the new neuromodulation technologies like Dr. Dr. Shore's.
       
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    3. dayma
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      I would have to find it but I believe that the DoD spends about 1 billion in medial research a year.
       
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      The United States Department of Veterans Affairs (VA): "In Fiscal Year 2016 (1 Oct 2015 – 30 Sep 2016), net program costs for the department were $273 billion, which includes VBA Actuarial Cost of $106.5 billion for compensation benefits.[2][3] The long-term actuarial accrued liability (total estimated future payments for veterans and their family members) is $2.491 trillion for compensation benefits; $59.6 billion for education benefits; and $4.6 billion for burial benefits.[4]"

      So they spent 106.5 billion on compensation benefits and only (going by you dayma) 1 billion on medical research. Something seems amiss!! That 1 billion will be spread over many different medical research programmes as well, with probably only a minute amount going to tinnitus.
       
    5. Rb86

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      Today I sold my old project car (1950 Cadillac) to a 24-year-old veteran. I mentioned tinnitus and he said he has it too from gun shots. Said he had to sleep with a box fan on for a while, then used brown noise apps, and now it's improved a good bit. Been over a year. Still has it but doesn't hear it all the time.
       
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    6. vttbx

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      DOD was funding a study on D-Methionine which I was following intensely. But the study was stopped in Stage 3 due to lack of funding. This was very disappointing to me. D-Methionine isn't available OTC but I'm close to finding a source for it.

      https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT02903355
       
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    7. Tinniger

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      The question is all the more relevant, since military personnel are usually likely to have a blast trauma. And it is thus one of the rare cases in which the cause of the tinnitus is directly known.
       
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    8. JohnAdams
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      LOL cause much reasons.

      How about this: Everyone make a twitter account and start following me and support my presidential run and when I'm the president I'll take all the money we use to prop up the zionist military and use it to cure diseases, starting with tinnitus.
       
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    9. Ecip

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      I can agree that the warmongering US needs to have its toys taken away from them and that they don't care about their soldiers once they're done using them as pawns, but can we not call tinnitus a disease?
       
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    10. JohnAdams
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      What? When has the US ever been warmongers?
       
    11. Hazel
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      It's a great question. Just wondering, do you have a military background? Or are you familiar with the military or veterans' associations?

      Just asking because we are doing some groundwork to forge connections with US veterans' associations and see whether we can collaborate with them to lobby for better tinnitus treatments and care. @TuxedoCat has been working on this.
       
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    12. Piney

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      I just left the VA psych doc today, nothing new I complained about Tinnitus. I would say meeting with a Director at a large regional VA who knows people in the funding area. I think the hospitals will be useless, their ENT’s and Audiologists are their just to do their jobs and utilize CBT like the rest. Somebody will want to help or at least want to put their name on the awareness, either from their heart or for they’re name and job advancement.
       
    13. Phendran
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      That seems like a great idea. :3

      Thank you.
       
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    14. Rb86

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      all to gain
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      Just seen this. No, I do not have a military background.

      It's all about the funding. As soon as the funding goes up we should start seeing more progress towards a cure. It's not a given though.
       
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      all to gain
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      We must! We must somehow contact those 971, 990 veterans that made claims. We need to get them to help push for a cure. But would they do it if they fear losing their money.
       
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    17. Rb86

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      Would you rather have $1200 or be cured?

      I would turn down a million dollars to be cured.
       
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      all to gain
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      Be cured.
       
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    19. ajc

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      How about you first donate YOURSELF to some tinnitus cause.

      Put your money where your mouth is. Same goes for @all to gain.
       
    20. AUTHOR
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      all to gain
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      Maybe I already do?!
       
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    21. JohnAdams
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      Lol like who? A bunch of crackpots like the BTA that won't even post a clear image of their road map to a cure on their website?
       
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    22. ajc

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    23. JohnAdams
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      Well considering we both gave ourselves hearing damage I think it is safe to say that we are both huge dumbasses.
       
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    24. just1morething
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      Is that a compliment or are you talking about a dumb donkey?
       
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    25. JohnAdams
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      all to gain
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      So I've started contacting politicians and military figures about tinnitus and lack of research funding to find a cure.

      Will I get a reply? Maybe not, and even if I do it might only be a 'we will look into it'.
       
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    27. Rb86

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      I'm confused why you're being aggressive towards me.

      For all you know, we both already donate, but that wouldn't matter. It wouldn't come close to comparing to the amount paid out in disability compensation.

      Please know, I'm not saying a vet is undeserving of that money whatsoever. I'm simply saying that if we collectively applied those monies towards a cure, we'd be doing them and every tinnitus sufferer a much bigger service towards relief.

      If a vet was truly disabled by tinnitus, as in they couldn't hold down a job, I would certainly hope the VA paid real compensation to help with housing, food, etc... not a measly $1200.
       
    28. Rb86

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      Same. Keep it up and thank you.
       
    29. Ken219
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      Since 3M knowingly manufactured and sold defective earplugs to the military, they (3M) should be funding a minimum $100,000,000.00 annually to tinnitus research! If I got tinnitus from their defective earplugs I would have visited some 3M executives.
       
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    30. Rb86

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      I met another vet who has tinnitus today.

      His didn't onset from a particular event that he noted. Said it was from years of helicopters. Doesn't bother him much. Said he just sleeps with a fan on for noise at night.

      More recently he developed CPAP... said it can stem from PTSD... has bad dreams. Anyway, the VA is helping with that.
       
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