And the Band Played on — Musical Hallucinations / Musical Ear Syndrome

Discussion in 'Introduce Yourself' started by Pennant, May 25, 2020.

    1. Pennant

      Pennant Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1981
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection/Noise
      Hello,

      I am new here! And struggling so much! I have had tinnitus since a childhood infection when I was 11 but over the last ten years my hearing has gotten worse, most probably due to loud noise. Over the last ten years my symptoms have worsened and eventually I found it was getting harder to discern some speech. Added to my usual tinnitus sounds I began to hear a loud piercing drill. That was three years ago.

      Eventually the drill stopped only to be replaced by endless music. Yes! I had developed musical ear syndrome. Continuous, unbearable musical hallucinations. I cannot drown out the music with other sounds because my musical hallucinations become louder every time I try. It is as if my musical hallucinations are competing with the outside world for my attention! I am in pain much of the time as well. Concentration on anything is hard, and despite this I am naturally a happy chap : ) Always lively and creative. I don't get down.

      However, after enduring this for more than two years the musical hallucinations are worse than ever now. It is so horrible to listen to (you'd think my brain would choose better instrumentation!) I have been so very tolerant, accepting that this is me from now on.

      But unfortunately I have hit a massive wall. I cannot imagine my life with these musical hallucinations any more. It is simply unbearable and I don't know what to do or where to turn. Anyway, that's me!
       
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    2. Peter61

      Peter61 Member

      Location:
      The Netherlands
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2012
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    3. Bill Bauer
      No Mood

      Bill Bauer Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      February, 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma
       
    4. hans799
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      Location:
      Hungary
      Tinnitus Since:
      Born with it
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Worsened Dec 2016 by headphones
      Are you still being exposed to loud noise? If so, you should stop immediately. Cut out concerts, power tools, loud headphones, etc. Invest in quality earplugs and earmuffs. Hearing damage is cumulative and your ears are already pretty shot. If you're still around loud noise, you're doing yourself a grave disservice and not only are you blocking your own healing, you're making your condition actively worse.
       
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      Pennant

      Pennant Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1981
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection/Noise
      The loud noise was ten years ago, I have avoided it before then and since then. I have always sought to look after my hearing but there was a brief time ten years ago where I should have been more careful. I now live with the consequences of this. I have other hearing issues because of an ear infection and I am due to have an operation later this year - so there's lots happening!
       
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      Pennant

      Pennant Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      1981
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear Infection/Noise
      I am certainly hopeful that treatments and cures may come about. And I am encouraged by the link you kindly sent me. :)
       
    7. GBB

      GBB Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016-2019 (Mild, Cured) 8/2020 (Severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus / Microsuction / Acoustic Trauma
      I have this too - if I listen to music I'll continue to hear something vaguely similar for a bit, like music coming from another room, although right now mine is not constant.
       
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    8. xyz
      Alienated

      xyz Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006 mild T 2019 T worsening H onset
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown / probably noise induced
      This sounds more like Palinacousis. Seems like some with hyperacusis have it.
       
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    9. GBB

      GBB Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016-2019 (Mild, Cured) 8/2020 (Severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus / Microsuction / Acoustic Trauma
      My assumption is the brain is receiving a damaged signal from the ears and tries to do contextual interpretation - if I listen to birds I’ll hear something like birds, for example. It lasted about 30 minutes for me.
       
    10. xyz
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      xyz Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      2006 mild T 2019 T worsening H onset
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown / probably noise induced
      I would like to know what must have been damaged in our ears / brain to generate this strange sensation. I did a bit of research on this last year and some papers said "most always found some lesion on the temporal lobe". So I did MRI as I was scared of brain tumor, but it showed up nothing just increased tinnitus + hyperacusis.
       
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    11. in_LA

      in_LA Member

      Location:
      Los Angeles
      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Do you still have that issue?
       
    12. GBB

      GBB Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016-2019 (Mild, Cured) 8/2020 (Severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus / Microsuction / Acoustic Trauma
      No, thankfully this went away!
       
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    13. in_LA

      in_LA Member

      Location:
      Los Angeles
      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Did it happen to you after an ear infection, or maybe a long loud flight? How long did you have it for?

      This is very similar to my situation. Mine is not constant either. What triggers it, is loudness, like if I go to a fair, it can get pretty loud at 70 dB and when I get home, I swear I hear some chatter but mostly music that sounds similar to what was playing at the fair. It winds down after a few hours, or if I go to sleep, but the ear feels like it can do it again if I don't take a break from loudness or even catchy beats. Also fans and the A/C can sometimes create faint music or chatter, but it's not always the case.

      I'm so confused. I'm sure I have some undiagnosed hearing loss, but it's far from profound, and I'm 42 so it's unlikely for it to be MES (Musical Ear Syndrome). When I do experience these bouts of audio hallucinations, it usually sounds like it's happening outside or another room.

      Sometimes I swear I hear what seems to be a car outside playing loud music with a distorted subwoofer, but you just hear the reverberations and the music is unintelligible.

      Sorry for the questions and tangent, I'm just desperately seeking answers because I won't see my ENT for another 2 weeks.
       
    14. GBB

      GBB Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016-2019 (Mild, Cured) 8/2020 (Severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Virus / Microsuction / Acoustic Trauma
      Happy to provide information. My tinnitus started while taking a nootropic known to induce neuroplasticity, Lion’s Mane, while in a two week period I had a very loud/painful ear cleaning with a vacuum device from an ENT, and a train horn went off very close to me.

      The real audio hallucinations went away after a few months, but I still get my tinnitus ramped up in reaction to certain kinds of noise. For example, this summer when we started running the A/C 24/7, it aggravated my tinnitus and made it much more intrusive - I mention this because if tinnitus gets louder due to sound, that sort of skirts the line of hallucination for me depending on what you think the nature of tinnitus is. But to be clear, I haven’t heard phantom violins or w/e for like 18 months. Same with hearing church bells in the shower, which also happened to me. That’s gone.
       
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    15. in_LA

      in_LA Member

      Location:
      Los Angeles
      Tinnitus Since:
      2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Thanks for these answers, they're immensely valuable.

      More questions.

      What was your trigger? With me, if I'm exposed to a loud environment, it feels like it stays with me, sometimes it has a direction but mostly doesn't. Same with music, I was just listening to 70s music at work because that's what they were blasting, and sure enough music that vaguely resembles 70s music stayed with me for a few hours. Chewing gum did help somewhat. It feels like this is more of a crazier form of an ear worm, mine can sometimes last til the next day but will be fainter, so it seems like loudness and catchiness is key here, for all I know maybe I didn't fully clear my infection.

      I've never really heard specific instruments, the music seems blurred together in a way. Never heard church bells.

      Do you think your tinnitus will slowly go back to how you used to perceive certain sounds?

      I've had that before and it remedied itself, but it took like 7 months for certain loud sounds to stop making my tinnitus more intrusive. Hopefully all of this is a stubborn ear infection. I'm just clueless, silence does not create music for me as far as I've noticed, and believe me, I check often, so I don't think I have musical tinnitus. It feels like an intense ear worm or something like it.
       
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