Cause of Tinnitus and Hyperacusis: Postviral Lesion

Discussion in 'Support' started by __nico__, May 1, 2021.

    1. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      This is just flat out weird. The tinnitus is dissipating, yet everything is a tone lower?

      Are the sound distortion effects lower/worse, or actual sounds "like someone talking" are lower (always or intermittently in little distorted blasts of lower pitch when hearing a real sound)?

      I know. A lot of questions. But it kind of sounds like what happens to people on Carbamazepine which blocks sodium channels and is used for typewriter tinnitus to great success yet a side-effect in like 20% of people is pitch shifting a semitone lower.

      It sounds like the steroids are doing something similar. God only knows how. Maybe with lower inflammation other neurofactors can finally bind to receptors in the nerve (and they were building up because negative feedback, you still had tinnitus so the brain made more of the factors)... and you're in the midst of a re-balance or re-myelination (if there was sheath damage from inflammation that also can repair once the inflammation goes down, and you'd be receiving "new" undegraded signals).

      Prednisone might have some kind of effect on neurosteroid concentration/activity.

      Did you call your specialist up to let them know what's been changing?

      At any rate, when people come off of Carbamazepine, their pitch perception reverse to normal. Hoping the same for you and that once the steroids are done this all fades off and you're left with something inconsequential compared to now.
       
    2. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      __nico__
      No Mood

      __nico__ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      chemo/barotrauma/noise/autoimmune disorder
      Tinnitus, hyperacusis, distortions etc were traded off for every single real sound being a tone lower. However, this has again corrected itself over the course of 24 hours, though my dysacusis (but weirdly not my tinnitus) is back.
       
    3. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      Trying to follow your comment. Dysacusis is back, but not tinnitus or hyperacusis? Does the dysacusis seem less than before?

      From what you are saying it seems like you are getting better, is that true?
       
    4. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      __nico__
      No Mood

      __nico__ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      chemo/barotrauma/noise/autoimmune disorder
      Dysacusis is still there. I literally don't care about the tinnitus at all. The hyperacusis, if it were moderate, I could survive.

      The loss of music due to dysacusis is why I'm here. I would trade it for the worst tinnitus in the world and believe me I've lived with freeway volume tinnitus for years.

      To have that level of tinnitus almost disappear without getting music back is the worst insult ever.
       
    5. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      Maybe give it time? If tinnitus can improve, maybe so can the rest.
       
    6. Óscar PP
      Psychedelic

      Óscar PP Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Nov 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Coronavirus
      Try Ketamine and Psilocybin before doing anything drastic.
       
    7. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      Sounds exactly like Carbamazepine and auditory sodium channel blockade (and depletion).

      Getting enough salt? I know it seems ridiculous but it could easily cause impedance of nerve function.

      For the dysacusis, it might have nothing to do with inflammation and could just be increased firing rates or bad synapsing. If Xanax helps that, I'd say more likely the former.

      Which, also, means K channel modulators should help you once they come out (one is getting close).
       
    8. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      __nico__
      No Mood

      __nico__ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      chemo/barotrauma/noise/autoimmune disorder
      Each time I take Prednisone the pitch shift madness starts again. Maybe you're right.
       
    9. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      @__nico__, how's the battle? Did you get to be on some antivirals?

      This might be a good time to add in some Ginkgo biloba or any other vasodilators while your inflammation is down.
       
    10. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      __nico__
      No Mood

      __nico__ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      chemo/barotrauma/noise/autoimmune disorder
      Prednisone isn't helping anymore and neither are the various vasodilators.
       
    11. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      Your tinnitus came back? Are you off Prednisone, or currently tapering off Prednisone? Any distortion changes? Any improvement at all?
       
    12. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      __nico__
      No Mood

      __nico__ Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      chemo/barotrauma/noise/autoimmune disorder
      Tapering off currently, tinnitus is back, pitch perception normal, sound tolerance back to 0, distortions the same as they were pre Prednisone.
       
    13. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      Shit. Sorry to hear that. I think the good news is the Prednisone had some effect at least. Maybe a form of anti-inflammatory therapy could help, or even antiviral.

      If I were you, I would really look into LDN at this point as it might be able to help with both.
       
    14. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      So basically no better, no worse?

      No new tinnitus sounds? And the existing tinnitus sounds remain all the same volume?
       
    15. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
    16. DebInAustralia
      No Mood

      DebInAustralia Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Geelong, Victoria
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2013
      Which KV modulator is close to market?
       
    17. Matchbox
      Wishful

      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      Xenon's formulation.
       
Loading...

Share This Page