Dirk De Ridder Explores Ketamine and HD Transcranial Infraslow Pink Noise Stimulation (HD-tIPNS)

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    1. kingsfan
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      Yea I will post updates. I think it's too soon to report anything. I haven't noticed any significant changes yet.
       
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    2. jay777

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      Let's hope he is honest, because there is no money to be made here.
       
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    3. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      At least one person I am aware of on this forum tried a Ketamine infusion protocol with no impact on tinnitus.

      My own experiences with NMDARs post tinnitus is that they universally seem to cause short term spikes.

      Ketamine therapy is becoming increasingly available to the point that there are clinics in some states that do everything through the mail now, you just pay your fee and have a Zoom doctor guide your session.

      I am vaguely interested in this; on the other hand, a single session costs the same as like three grams of pure Ketamine does on the street, so....
      This is definitely not true, Ketamine is being seen as a goldmine by various mental health providers that are somewhere between "alt med" and "conventional". Some are well intentioned, others less so, but the upshot is that if you go to a clinic for a trivial dose of Ketamine it costs hundreds of dollars, vastly exceeding the price of simple therapy at the same clinic, and yet the costs to the provider are not that much higher (some additional insurance, and the trivial costs they pay for Ketamine and injectable supplies).

      This is absolutely being pushed for financial reasons. The marketing is way ahead of the science, ex: https://ketamd.com/
       
    4. Gb3

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      What does that mean?
       
    5. kingsfan
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      I'm pretty sure the price is high because you have to pay for the anesthesiologist which are never cheap.
       
    6. jay777

      jay777 Member

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      You must be in the United States, $500 for a band aid.
       
    7. jay777

      jay777 Member

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      It's an old horse tranquilizer, patent expired, so cheap as chips, plus toxic to urinary tract and liver, so not sustainable at high dose or long periods.
       
    8. linearb
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      linearb Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

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      Nah, you don't need an anesthesiologist for this, and 100% don't with the sublingual stuff.

      $200 for an office visit in the US is not that far outside of normal. People with good insurance often are less aware of this.

      I have to buy private insurance for our family which costs $1880 a month, plus another $9000 in deductible before any coverage kicks in (which is then 100% for basically everything).

      If you do the math there it means we're spending $31,560 a year post tax for family health insurance. This is average for the state. The state median income is $60,000 pre tax, so most people have to get plans through the exchanges which are government supplemented, which means, great, my tax money is subsidizing the insurance industry. (I have no problem whatsoever with my tax money helping pay healthcare costs for low income families; I dislike that 40% of it just goes into corporate pockets at Blue Cross).
      The doses being used are claimed to not cause bladder damage.

      Many of the formulations being attempted in the US use proprietary delivery mechanisms of one kind or another to provide a period of patent protection, but that's not the main thing driving the costs.
       
    9. EDDTEKK

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    10. Mentos

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    11. EDDTEKK

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      Yes, he has tinnitus himself. As far I know this guy spent a lot of money in funding. He is a millionaire living in New Zealand.

      But we need more humans like him. It’s obviously not enough.
       
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    12. JK888
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      JK888 Member

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      This is exactly how Psilocybin with mirror therapy works for phantom limb pain.
       
    13. JK888
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      JK888 Member

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      Psilocybin would be safer.
       
    14. JK888
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      JK888 Member

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      I think it would work regardless. The people with nerve pain from an amputation had severe trauma, and using psychedelics is effective for that. They are using psychedelics to reinterpret the signals from damaged nerves.
       
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