I Don't Believe 20% of People Have Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Support' started by MuffinMan, Sep 28, 2018.

    1. MuffinMan
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      MuffinMan Member

      Location:
      Beirut, Lebanon
      Tinnitus Since:
      29/8/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown, started the moment I woke up from a nightmare.
      That stat makes no sense to me, everytime I mention my tinnitus I have to explain what it is, it seems no one knows about it except those few I know who have it.

      If it’s true that 20% of population have tinnitus like ENTs and some stats claim, shouldn’t its name be way more known among people?
       
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    2. JohnAdams
      Starving

      JohnAdams Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      here
      Tinnitus Since:
      it started.
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      hearing loss
      Maybe that many can hear a tiny tiny sound in complete silence but I'm sure most of them are nothing like us here.
       
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    3. Bam

      Bam Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/stress
      If 20% of the world was like us, it would be f***ing bedlam. It would however ‘unlock’ the cure me thinks.
       
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    4. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      20% is too high in my opinion.

      The more official estimates are around 10% but it could be raised slightly higher in the future.

      But a lot of it depends on the question. You can ask have you ever heard tinnitus and capture anyone who has ever been clubbing, or you can ask have you had tinnitus for more than 3 days that captures it beyond noise exposure. And also many things in between that will give different estimates.
       
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    5. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      MuffinMan
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      MuffinMan Member

      Location:
      Beirut, Lebanon
      Tinnitus Since:
      29/8/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown, started the moment I woke up from a nightmare.
      Two doctors told me it’s between 15-20%.

      I don’t buy it; If this was true then all ENTs would become millionaires, because the first reaction would be rushing to them.

      Also most people look at me as if it’s something alien when I talk about it.
       
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    6. reggie green
      Balanced

      reggie green Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/08/2001
      Will tinnitus become more of a national problem?
       
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    7. Red
      Crappy

      Red Member

      Location:
      Northeast USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Exposure (Headphones)
      The data is curious because it depends on the phrasing of the questions.

      What questions were asked to get there?

      Do they experience tinnitus all the time?

      Can they hear it only in quiet rooms?
       
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    8. PDodge
      Cowboy

      PDodge Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Woods of Alberta
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bear ate my Cochlea
      Yes, I know at least 5 people with tinnitus, enough of it that they mentioned it to me without me telling them about mine
       
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    9. onjig

      onjig Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      long time
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      who knows
      What ~ you have this too ?????????????? And others ~ as well ~ others have this problem ```

      I thought I was the only one ~ maybe I am ~ and you guys are leading me on ``` I have to think about this ```








      onjig
       
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    10. coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      That's because most people think it's normal and they don't care about it enough to be bothered by it, I had T since i was a child and i always thought it was normal to have it...it wasn't until i went to a concert that totally unleashed my T that i understood the noise had a name. Lots of people have T they just don't realize they have it, and most just go about their normal days without caring about it. I only started caring when the noise was very noticeable and bothered me a lot.


      When i talked about it with my brother or my friends...i found out 90% of my gamer buddies have it, and my brother has it too...he just told me to learn to live with it like everyone else...very annoying but that's what brothers will say (n)
       
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    11. Luman
      Artistic

      Luman Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Brooklyn
      Tinnitus Since:
      07/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Intermittent Tinnitus probably noise induced
      Same here, I know an ENT, two therapists, an MRI technician, and a dental hygienist, all of whom have tinnitus. They did not tell me they had it until I brought it up. All of them are habituated.
       
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    12. PDodge
      Cowboy

      PDodge Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Woods of Alberta
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bear ate my Cochlea
      "I'll take one habituation to go please, no I would not like a receipt" 2 of my coworkers have it loud I had to repeat myself
       
    13. Contrast

      Contrast Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Retrovile
      Tinnitus Since:
      late 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      injury from noxious noise
      I'm surprised most people I talked to do know about tinnitus and have some only have it completely silence.
      I'm in the USA fyi

      back in 2012-2016 I had super quiet tinnitus I could only hear with my ear plugs in dead silence.
       
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    14. Red
      Crappy

      Red Member

      Location:
      Northeast USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Exposure (Headphones)
      Habituation is easier the milder tinnitus is. And although it is said otherwise, I truly believe that some are inclined to easier ear damage once it becomes present. These people aren't so concerned about spikes because if they were, they'd live life at least slightly abnormally.

      Spiking is a huge part of the upset with tinnitus. Not only do you have this buzzing but you feel inclined to live life differently if you don't want to make it worse. Is there a form of tinnitus that doesn't spike and remains stable, you got to wonder?
       
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    15. PDodge
      Cowboy

      PDodge Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Woods of Alberta
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bear ate my Cochlea
      Honestly, if my T didn't fluctuate so wildly I would have made peace a while ago, but when it's so up and down it's hard not to get upset over and over.
       
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    16. coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      Also, the fact that Tinnitus is SO vastly different from one individual to another, with such a disparity in causes and effects...that it is difficult to isolate. Often T is coupled with existing conditions which may or may not exacerbate the problem...it could present itself as side effects to medication, depression, common colds, various nerve problems, head traumas...there are so many variables as to why it exists...it is hard to diagnose. Tinnitus is still mysterious...but its effects are very real.
       
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    17. streeter1985
      Studious

      streeter1985 Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Central Europe
      Tinnitus Since:
      08/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Hearing loss (stress + virus activation)
      When I had my hyperbaric oxygen therapy I was there with around 10-12 other people who had hearing loss. The people were between maybe 25-75. The old people in most cases nearly lost their hearing completely in one ear. But the funny thing was, that at the first therapy unit we talked about the conditions and the young people said "I have T and hearing loss" while the old people said they only have hearing loss and the next day when we met again for the therapy they talked to me and said they hear something but they can live with it (tiny noise). Dont know why they didnt mention it the day before.

      So what I thought was that they already had T and only began to talk about it because the younger generation clearly said they have T. Like breaking a wall. I thought that was some kind of lack in the acceptance of T in the society...So I am very careful with statistics. Maybe they thought they would be weird or not as strong as the youth etc. who knows. The problem with T is that most people bring it only in connection with a mental disorder.

      I also have troubles to talk to my family about T. My father said when my T appeared he also has T but it sounds like crickets and he likes that...but he cant hear his T all the time....so maybe they say something to make you feel better or that you accept it etc.
       
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    18. dpdx
      Disappointed

      dpdx Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Murica
      Tinnitus Since:
      Onset:09/23/2017 Worsened: 1/17/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic Trauma, worsened by caloric test/VEMP test 90db nhL
      I just found out one of my friends has T (loud noise exposure) bilateral tinnitus her's is mild. Her husband has severe t (war veteran)
       
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    19. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      MuffinMan
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      MuffinMan Member

      Location:
      Beirut, Lebanon
      Tinnitus Since:
      29/8/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown, started the moment I woke up from a nightmare.
      I am a gamer too, even tho i never played with earphones, i am starting to wonder if there’s a connection between T and gaming - i noticed a lot of gamers here hmm.
       
    20. PDodge
      Cowboy

      PDodge Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Woods of Alberta
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Bear ate my Cochlea
      Maybe it's all the underlying stress and competitiveness. I never used headphones for gaming/music either
       
    21. Steve
      Creative

      Steve Member Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      Sheffield, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Gaming online often makes mine worse. I believe that (for me) it's the neck stress, around C1 and C2 where I carry a lot of tension. Same thing I believe is at play in driving for any longer distances, which also makes mine worse.
       
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    22. Rainbowsheep
      Cheerful

      Rainbowsheep Member

      Location:
      Denmark
      Tinnitus Since:
      2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, I suppose
      The stats I have read says between 15 - 20% but that only 3% of those are bothered by their T in such a way that it damages their quality of life. So I suppose the reason why the stats seems to high is that it is only a small amount of People with T who is actually bothered or harmed by it :)
       
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    23. RingerBell

      RingerBell Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Tinnitus rates around 10% seem to be often quoted for the whole population. Studies covering certain subgroups like elderly people and military personnel often seem to report higher rates, even high as 20%.

      It would be interesting to know what is the limiting value for percentage of people that can develop tinnitus, but that´s probably one of the things researchers are trying to find out.
       
    24. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      MuffinMan
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      MuffinMan Member

      Location:
      Beirut, Lebanon
      Tinnitus Since:
      29/8/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown, started the moment I woke up from a nightmare.

      But the videos you find on youtube say otherwise, like this french video “c’est quoi l’acouphène” and they show you that “15% of canadian population suffer from T”.... this is so misleading.
      What you are saying makes more sense.
       
    25. AUTHOR
      AUTHOR
      MuffinMan
      Alienated

      MuffinMan Member

      Location:
      Beirut, Lebanon
      Tinnitus Since:
      29/8/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown, started the moment I woke up from a nightmare.
      One of the EST i visited was like “there are at least 1 million out of 4 million <my country population> suffering from T.

      Honestly I don’t buy it, he was just saying that to make feel better probably.
       
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    26. Bam

      Bam Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Neck/stress
      Frankly that is about as absurd as him telling a cripple, ‘don’t worry there’s a million cripples like you knocking about round here.’.....When really they just a have sore back every now and then.
       
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    27. Wolfears

      Wolfears Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Jan 20/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely accoustic trauma
      There are lot of garden variety tinnitus "sufferers" who who all come out of the woodwork when the subject gets brought up.

      But then it usually becomes clear that theirs is not intrusive, and they are not bothered by it whatsoever.

      I remember when I mentioned having tinnitus to one of my coworkers and he was very excited to tell me he has one too...it appears about once a week for few hours and then goes away.

      Sadly this is why the real sufferers are not being taken seriously...people don't realize that there are other levels, while the tinnitus propaganda machine just keeps painting roses and unicorns.
       
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    28. coffee_girl
      Innocent

      coffee_girl Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      All my life, but got worse 2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced / Concert
      That's strange, i don't see a lot off military people here
       
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    29. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Absolutely Wolf.

      “I do wish the ‘HTDs’ would just keep quiet, rather than give the real sufferers the benefit of their inane advice!”

      (HTD’s - Hobbycraft Tinnitus Dabblers)
       
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    30. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      .....at least he didn’t tell you to
      “choose happiness and go out and enjoy the sunshine!”
       
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