I Invented a Sound That Knocked Out My Tinnitus

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by R. David Case, Dec 27, 2018.

    1. JohnAdams
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      What do you think about PRP injections?
       
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      R. David Case

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      Don't know much about that, explain.
       
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      R. David Case

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      It is a test group with Brian Douglas (moderator of Tinnitus Sufferers) and 3 others from European tinnitus groups that are moderators for them, just a bunch of good people trying to get help to everyone and quantify who this will work on. We want to predict who should try the therapy and who it does not work on. On average 50% of those that have tried Tinnitus Mix have been helped, we want to raise that to a higher %.
       
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    4. JohnAdams
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      They take your blood and spin out the platelets into a concentrate and inject it around wounds and it accelerates and enhances the healing process in certain tissues.
       
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      Oohh ok. Yes well I know this will get mud thrown at me but... the earth at one time had much more pressure and oxygen and this caused blood PLASMA to carry oxygen also, this was a super healing effect on all creatures. They now build hyperbaric chambers that are high pressure and higher oxygen for healing wounds. Some hospitals have them and can heal wounds much faster. So yes that does sound like it would work.
       
    6. just1morething
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      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      PRP injections were offered to me for my neck but they were all cash...about $7000 from what I remember and there were no guarantees. Insurance companies consider PRP and stem cell injections experimental so they will not cover them normally. I had dexamethasone injections done into my left ear that were covered as well as a more IT injections done at Shea ear clinic that were also covered. That was 6-7 years ago. Dr.'s like money like everyone else (they say they have to eat too - joke)
       
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    7. JohnAdams
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      Well, not exactly, PRP has very little to no RBC's which are the oxygen carriers. My question to you is about the growth factors which is what PRP contains.
       
    8. RaZaH
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      So, 14 pages later... anyone here using this sound?
       
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      So they did not workYI take it?
       
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      R. David Case

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      Yes there are, but here I have no idea who is trying it unless they post. In the control test group I can see who is and see results etc.
       
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      R. David Case

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      well the idea is to increase oxygen delivery , correct?
       
    12. JohnAdams
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      No, oxygen is carried by RBC's, PRP filters most of those out. The idea is to increase growth factors that are secreted by platelets.
       
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      R. David Case

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      OK, so are you saying they are helping tinnitus? A guy just posted he tried it.
       
    14. JohnAdams
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      No I was just seeing what you think.

      Why do you think tinnitus even happens in the first place??
       
    15. just1morething
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      Well I don't think it did much and was short lived if it did. It made my dizzy for a minute or so and you weren't supposed to swallow for awhile. Probably why the new formulations are gel like. Quite frankly I think Shea did it for the insurance money they received.
       
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    16. just1morething
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      Tried it a bit without headphones. Kinda scratchy screechy sound. Maybe puting it on YouTube would be a good idea?
       
    17. Lane

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      I have a home mHBOT unit, and my understanding is that HBOT gets around some of the limitations of the body only having access to oxygen via RBCs. For example, lyme bacteria tend to hide out in joints, cartilage, teeth, etc., where's there's normally minimal blood flow. This keeps them away from the oxygen in blood that can be deadly to them, and that they want to avoid.

      When a person goes into an HBOT chamber, fairly concentrated oxygen is diffused throughout the body, and can get into nooks and crannies that are normally inaccessible to it, because there's little to no circulating blood. This makes it perilous for infections like Lyme, and likely for many other infections as well. -- I personally think modern medicine/science is in its infancy when it comes to understanding the full picture of chronic infections. -- BTW, the woman I bought my mHBOT unit from said that roughly 1/3 of the calls she receives are from people with Lyme.

      Then there's the whole aspect of HBOT being extremely beneficial for brain and nerve healing. Though my regular mHBOT sessions (last 3-4 months) have had relatively minimal impact on my tinnitus, it has had a MAJOR impact on my ability to sleep, to keep myself calm, and ability to deal with tinnitus. The ability of HBOT to significantly reduce inflammation was likely responsible for some of the benefits.

      About 2 months after my onset of tinnitus, I was doing my first HBOT chamber, and after about 30 minutes, was able to relax in a way I had thought I'd never be able to again. It really was a transformative development, and was a major catalyst for me deciding to get my own chamber. I've not regretted for a moment that $7,000 investment I made to have daily access to it.

      @R. David Case -- Thanks for all your posting and updating. Much appreciated!
       
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    18. gorzakus

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      I'm trying it with the Koss headphones, check my earlier posts.
      Weren't you trying it as well?
      Will see in a week or two if it works, if not my sons get a nice pair of these amazing Koss headphones.
       
    19. gorzakus

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      You have your own chamber? That's great, where do you live? :popcorndrink:
       
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    20. dayma
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      Lol. I was thinking the same thing. I tried a few sessions for the hell of it.
       
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    21. Julien87
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      I use it to keep the birds away from my cherry trees.
       
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    22. 85dB T
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      I tried it. I found the sounds interesting.

      Some sounds were similar to tinnitus and some contrasted tinnitus.

      After listening my tinnitus was the same. If anything it stressed my ears out. Who needs excessive noise.
       
    23. jay777

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      Did you try it with the said headphones and for 3 weeks?
       
    24. 85dB T
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      Three weeks? I don't think so. Three minutes is too much.

      Headphones are headphones... but these have titanium... so that's something to consider, right? ...

      But I did sleep well the other night. However this was before listening three minutes.
       
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    25. RaZaH
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      I have tried it, slept with it twice, done nothing for my tinnitus so far, in fact it's pretty bad these days.

      Just wondering if anyone else is insane enough to try this.
       
    26. RaZaH
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      @R. David Case, I had a look at the posts on Tinnitus Sufferers, 3 comments and then admins closed them.

      How did this come about? Also, no trace of a discussion about testing on a large group of people.

      I went looking as I was interested in hearing from people that have gone the full 3 weeks, rather than the 3 min tests on this site.
       
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    27. dayma
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      Yes, I am messing with it. I am not sure listening to this is any more nuts than half the OTC and other supplements that people put in their bodies to try to remedy their tinnitus . :)
       
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    28. RaZaH
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    29. 85dB T
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      Same here, my tinnitus is unusually bad today.

      Woke up and thought to myself, this is ridiculous (kind of a "Groundhog Day" experience, the movie).
       
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    30. gorzakus

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      I have been trying it for 2 days in a row now at night and one during the day (sleeping) with the Koss headphones with an average of 6 hours a night.
      I use it with my iPad on volume 3. The sound is quite bearable actually, it's harder for me to sleep in total silence. It's just not easy with the headphones on.

      And I have to be honest: last two days were very quiet and today I'm making a very silent start.
       
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