Impact of Benzodiazepines on TRT (Tinnitus Retraining Therapy) Brain Plasticity?

Discussion in 'Support' started by GaryTH, Sep 23, 2020.

    1. GaryTH
      Panicky

      GaryTH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise exposure, stress, NSAIDS, eabuds, shingles vaccine
      Dr. Jastreboff, inventor of Tinnitus Retraining Therapy states in his book and in this YouTube video presentation (fast forward to 6:46) that patients who take benzodiazepines are not good candidates for TRT because these drugs decrease brain plasticity, which is an essential element to the success of the therapy.

      Pawel Jastreboff on Tinnitus Retraining...


      He states that this phenomenon has been "very well proven", however, I cannot find and scientific studies that confirm this. It is also unclear if patients who have previously used benzodiazepines have permanently decreased their brain plasticity or if it is a temporary state while the patient is currently on the drugs.

      Has anyone had success after TRT while taking benzodiazepines or after having taken them for a prolonged period of time?
       
    2. ajc

      ajc Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2002; spike 2009; worse 2017-18
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music - noise damage
      You could email Jastreboff and ask for his sources. Then share with us what he said. He's a loser who kept tinnitus research back for decades.
       
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    3. Jack V

      Jack V Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      1/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      PLEASE STOP EDITING MY POSTS!
      I too was curious about that.
       
    4. Pitseleh

      Pitseleh Member

      Location:
      France
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      I can't answer for TRT but I can for hypnosis.

      You can sometimes read that benzos would limit the benefit of the hypnotic state and would even prevent the brain from going into a trance.
      I've been using benzos daily for 3 years, no issue with hypnosis.

      Hypnosis is not TRT but still, I thought I could give this piece of info here.
       
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    5. Jack Straw
      Balanced

      Jack Straw Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      1990s
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Infection, Acoustic Trauma
      @Contrast any valid claims to this statement regarding plasticity and benzos?

      This study says it goes both ways with plasticity:

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4243505/

      This articles suggests, but doesn't conclude, that it can effect plasticity:
      http://www.remedypublications.com/o...-development-and-adaptation-processes-291.pdf

      I see nothing that shows it is "very well proven" though. Such a strong statement for something that doesn't have much research.

      @GaryTH off topic, but I see you said the shingle vaccine caused your tinnitus. Can you go into detail about that?
       
    6. GBB

      GBB Member

      Location:
      NYC
      Tinnitus Since:
      2016-2019 (Mild, Cured) 8/2020 (Severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Microsuction / Additional Acoustic Trauma in Close Proximity
      The guy is a blow hard and made it up just like every other aspect of the theory he conjured into existence. There was a scientific vacuum and he took advantage by providing a plausible solution to everyone except tinnitus sufferers - no one wants to deal with our intractable problems especially when they are invisible - he made a hand wavey way for medical practitioners to feel good by codifying treatments but it doesn’t hold up to real scrutiny.
       
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      GaryTH
      Panicky

      GaryTH Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      noise exposure, stress, NSAIDS, eabuds, shingles vaccine
      I don't know if the shingles vaccine was the cause, as I had many other factors coinciding (stress and Airpods sound exposure). The Shingrix vaccine is the newer shingles vaccine, which is supposedly safer because it doesn't use a live virus (which in the past had been shown to cause tinnitus in some people). However, I received the first dose of the two dose vaccine 2 weeks before my tinnitus onset. I never went back for the second shot, which is supposed to be taken 2-6 months later.
       

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