New to the Madness

[Chad Harmon]

Hello. I was diagnosed with depression 25 years ago and have had little to no luck with medication. Just over five years ago tinnitus began and has gotten progressively worse throughout the years and now it seems months. Between the depression and the tinnitus I feel I'm living in complete madness.

I've tried all the holistic approaches, all the so called over the counter "medications", been to numerous ENT's and audiologists, have even tried Starkey/Audibel tinnitus masking hearing aids. Nothing is working to relieve the symptoms and stress even a bit. I'm currently not able to work and have a difficult time socializing.

I'm going to begin TMS treatment for my depression tomorrow, and I've heard in some cases it has helped relieve tinnitus enough to make it manageable. I'm also going to start cognitive training, special to tinnitus, to help retrain my brain.

Am I approaching correctly? Anything I could also do? I'm in a bad place right now and I'm looking for even the smallest glimmer of hope.

Thank you for listening,
-chad.

 

[Fabrikat]

Hi @Chad Harmon! I've read that rTMS has been found to be quite effective in the face of intractable depression. However, the evidence regarding its effectiveness for tinnitus, is still sketchy. It definitely needs to be targeted precisely and people on TT have spoken of having an fMRI prior to magnetic therapy, to localise the exact points in the brain that require treatment. Something to discuss with your therapist.

 

[Bill Bauer]

I'm going to begin TMS treatment for my depression tomorrow, and I've heard in some cases it has helped relieve tinnitus enough to make it manageable.

You might want to find a clinic that specializes in treating tinnitus.

Also check out the attached pdf file. It shows the rTMS settings that were found to be effective for treating tinnitus. If you can't find an rTMS facility that specializes in treating T, at least show this paper to technicians at your facility and ask them to use the same settings...

 

[Bill Bauer]

In case you live on the East Coast of Canada, here is a clinic in Montreal that specializes in using rTMS to treat T:
http://www.monacouphene.ca/en/

 

[Vincent R]

Hello. I was diagnosed with depression 25 years ago and have had little to no luck with medication. Just over five years ago tinnitus began and has gotten progressively worse throughout the years and now it seems months. Between the depression and the tinnitus I feel I'm living in complete madness.

I've tried all the holistic approaches, all the so called over the counter "medications", been to numerous ENT's and audiologists, have even tried Starkey/Audibel tinnitus masking hearing aids. Nothing is working to relieve the symptoms and stress even a bit. I'm currently not able to work and have a difficult time socializing.

I'm going to begin TMS treatment for my depression tomorrow, and I've heard in some cases it has helped relieve tinnitus enough to make it manageable. I'm also going to start cognitive training, special to tinnitus, to help retrain my brain.

Am I approaching correctly? Anything I could also do? I'm in a bad place right now and I'm looking for even the smallest glimmer of hope.

Thank you for listening,
-chad.

When holistic approaches don't work, one way forward is to increase the dosage:

https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...deal-with-tinnitus-suffering.8165/#post-96760

(The post is too wordy and a bit poorly edited, but the info in itself holds up.)

 

[Kolisar]

Hello @Chad Harmon , and welcome.

Hello. I was diagnosed with depression 25 years ago and have had little to no luck with medication. .... Between the depression and the tinnitus I feel I'm living in complete madness.

You have come to the right place. Most of us (if not all) have been there. Depression and tinnitus are frequent companions. As you read posts on this forum you will find that many (if not most) tinnitus sufferers also experience depression and anxiety. You are not alone, and hopefully that fact brings you some comfort.

Am I approaching correctly? Anything I could also do?

I know nothing about TMS. For your depression I am assuming you have tried cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), or psychodynamic therapy. I have had success with the later and know people who have had success with the former.

I'm in a bad place right now and I'm looking for even the smallest glimmer of hope.

Again, that is common. tT is important to try and maintain a positive attitude. I know it is difficult, especially for those of us who suffer from depression as well, but it does help with coping with tinnitus.

@billie48 wrote his success story demonstrating how positivity helped him habituate.
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/thread...w-i-recovered-from-tinnitus-hyperacusis.3148/

@Michael Leigh wrote the following, excellent post on negativity and tinnitus:
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/tinnitus-and-the-negative-mindset.23705/

And, for what it is worth, you have found a community of people who truly understand what you are going through. This forum is filled with caring, compassionate, and sympathetic people who are always willing to give their support to a fellow tinnitus sufferer. People are on this forum practically 24 hours a day and 7 days per week. As miserable as tinnitus can be, you are here now and you have found people who will provide support. You do not have to fight this alone, we are here and we will help.

 

[vermillion]

In case you live on the East Coast of Canada, here is a clinic in Montreal that specializes in using rTMS to treat T:
http://www.monacouphene.ca/en/

This clinic performs an intensive tinnitus treatment program with among others rTMS assisted with QEEG? Bill are you aware of something similar in Europe? rTMS guided with EEG or fMRI?

 

[Bill Bauer]

This clinic performs an intensive tinnitus treatment program with among others rTMS assisted with QEEG? Bill are you aware of something similar in Europe? rTMS guided with EEG or fMRI?

Sorry, this is the only clinic like that that I am aware of. Perhaps if you contact them, they will be able to point you to similar clinics in Europe...

 

[Chad Harmon]

Wow! Thank you all for being so supportive. I believe I've come to the right place and hopefully will make friends along the way to share stories. Thank you for making me comfortable. Everyone seems open, caring and compassionate.
-chad

 

[Fabrikat]

This clinic performs an intensive tinnitus treatment program with among others rTMS assisted with QEEG? Bill are you aware of something similar in Europe? rTMS guided with EEG or fMRI?

There probably are clinics that perform this kind of therapy in Europe @vermillion, but I know definitely that there is one in Turkey, that Melike went to. She says it wasn't successful for her, but that it was for some of her friends. It sounded comparatively low in cost compared to others, too.

 

[vermillion]

There probably are clinics that perform this kind of therapy in Europe @vermillion, but I know definitely that there is one in Turkey, that Melike went to. She says it wasn't successful for her, but that it was for some of her friends. It sounded comparatively low in cost compared to others, too.

Thank you. I suppose I have to contact @Melike. Btw in Europe it's always cheaper. USs' health care expenses are insane. I suppose Canada's too.

 

[MBH]

I have a clinic near me but I thought tms was for depression. Have they been doing tms on T for awhile. I guess it hit or miss. I had an MRI. What is the understanding of tms? I thought it did not work for T?

 

[Fabrikat]

I have a clinic near me but I thought tms was for depression. Have they been doing tms on T for awhile. I guess it hit or miss. I had an MRI. What is the understanding of tms? I thought it did not work for T?

At the moment rTMS has proven efficacy in the treatment of depression. Not so however, for tinnitus. The jury is still out, but it has not stopped some clinics from performing the treatment on willing individuals.

 

[MBH]

TY for getting back to me, I'll look into it. I live in the US. But I'm surprised the medical professionals have not looked at it more in-depth or try to enhance on it, due to I think T is more of the brain for everyone.