Restored Hearing's Sound Relief Tinnitus Sound Therapy

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    1. calin
      Inspired

      calin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Oct 2011
      Someone may be interested in this. The site has cool pictures! There is an instant free trial!

      https://restoredhearing.com/

       
    2. erik
      Breezy

      erik Manager Staff Benefactor

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      Another sound therapy but who knows maybe this one works! They have a free trial at their website http://www.restoredhearing.com

       
    3. erik
      Breezy

      erik Manager Staff Benefactor

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      The trial, beginning in September, will be conducted at the University of Edinburgh where
      one of its directors, Eimear O’Carroll, is currently a postgraduate physics student.
      Using physics to solve problems with hearing, Restored Hearing is keen to get scientific
      feedback on its sound therapy. Director Eimear O’Carroll said “We already have permanent
      tinnitus sufferers who receive benefit from using our therapy every day. With this new
      clinical trial we aim to find out what common characteristics these people have and the
      extent of the effectiveness of our sound therapy for them.”
      Individuals (over 18 years of age) who have had tinnitus for between 2 and 15 years are
      eligible for the free trial and there is no geographic restriction.
      Candidates will need regular access to the internet and email in order to take part in the 4-
      week trial and those who are interested are invited to apply via tinnitustrial@gmail.com.


      http://www.ata.org/sites/ata.org/files/pdf/University_of_Edinburgh.pdf
       
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    4. James White
      Anime

      James White Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Toulouse, France
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe loud music. Not sure.
      Thanks, i may be participating in that one but i'm under the 2 years limit, we'll see
       
    5. yonkapin

      yonkapin Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Melbourne, Australia
      Tinnitus Since:
      March 2012
      You guys try the free trial thing on their website, www.restoredhearing.com?

      Gave it a try and didn't have any luck with it o_O
       
    6. James White
      Anime

      James White Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Toulouse, France
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2013
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Maybe loud music. Not sure.

      Same here @yonkapin
       
    7. Leah

      Leah Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chardon, Ohio USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Thanks, going to see I qualify.
       
    8. jazz
      No Mood

      jazz Member Benefactor

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      eardrum rupture from virus; barotrauma from ETD
    9. t-man
      Suicidal

      t-man Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      Sounds like bull.
       
    10. Dan Turner
      Transparent

      Dan Turner Member

      Location:
      Conyers, Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      I'm not sold on Restored Hearing for a number of reasons.
      There is a simplistic...almost too easy..."cure" that a young lass has developed; but in watching or listening to her communicate her thoughts...it's not what I would call the language of Science. It is however, a plug for youthful entrepreneurs at one gathering called "Power of Youth."

      Will Restored Hearing's sound therapy work? I may never know. I did just finish the Study Group for ST this past month as a member of the Control Group (always a control group...never a brideo_O) that spent a few minutes each week answering survey questions in two tiers; submitting and waiting for the pay-off from being a participant.

      The pay-off came in the form of a link to the general page for Restored Hearing and the directions to sign up and then apply for a Rolling term of treatments...the 2nd least expensive. This treatment is FREE....however, the punch line would be using my credit card as part of my application (or other obligation device) which on the International list of things that raise red-flags...this is one.

      Eimear...thank you for allowing me to give you my information up front to qualify for your series of treatments; the number of survey questions in a 1-10 ranking of severity or positive/negative responses; all these things I shared with you.
      Now it's time for ME to share my line of credit overseas where terrible things can and do happen in trying to fix problems on the International flair of problems. I did trust you with my information, my time and honest survey answers...the least you could do is trust me with a FREE month that didn't tacitly compromise my paltry funds.

      In my 12 going on 13 years of dealing with Tinnitus....I've had my share of snake oil salespeople in long white coats. In fact there are more of them than the homeopathic routes that are available. One thing is for certain, the long white coats demand more money....one was $40,000 (usd) for hyperbaric treatments and the other was about $15,000 to sever and section the aural nerve of my right ear. There was NO guarantee on the hyperbaric treatments. There was a guarantee on the surgery....I would be stone deaf in the right ear; however.....and a big friggin' however...NO guarantee that the nerve cutting would end the Tinnitus noise.

      In this country....it would be doubtful of a jury of my peers convicting me for the end results that I would cause a long white coat should the surgical procedure have failed as described above.

      So yes...I'm a little put out on the Restored Hearing methods here. I can see how a big crowd of desperation signs on in throngs for a series of tests (or in my case, control group) and then invited to join the RH treatment center....but come on....provide credit card information on the "Free 30 Day Trial" offered to everyone as one would signing on for a Free 30 Day Trial to a general porn site (or so I've been told:greedy:).

      I had the greatest of hopes for Restored Hearing when I first read the news via ATA for volunteers. However, with further study of persons involved, the relatively sudden loss of the Restored Hearing facebook site and the frustration of paralleling this experience with past experiences these long 13 years.....Restored Hearing's stock has taken a sharp decline.
       
    11. adam2525
      Balanced

      adam2525 Member

      Location:
      London, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2001
      Dan,

      I was also in the control group.

      Regarding payment, they accept PayPal. I will sign up for the free month as there is nothing to lose.
      Using PayPal they wont see my credit card details and its easy to cancel the recurring payment through PayPal.

      Adam
       
    12. Dan Turner
      Transparent

      Dan Turner Member

      Location:
      Conyers, Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      I don't mind being wrong...been there many times.<G

      I wish you the best of luck and look forward to hearing good news about the treatment. We appear to both have about the length of time involved from onset, so I feel certain you're attuned to all things that may change anything in audio level or pitch.

      Heck, I was all set with my headphones yesterday, too.<G Good luck and thanks for the note.

      Dan
       
    13. Dan Turner
      Transparent

      Dan Turner Member

      Location:
      Conyers, Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      I found a Young Entrepreneur video of the principal partner for R/H.....I didn't detect a lot of science in her comments for such a simplistic procedure; the video seemed more intent to bleat success as a young entrepreneur....which seems to be the biggest response to a search engine of her name. Entrepreneur first....the basis for her entrepreneurial aspirations via Tinnitus appears to take a far second.

      I did participate in the Study this year....surprise....I was one of the hordes of Control Group members that answered the same survey questions each week. The pay-off was purportedly a 30 day trial of the sound therapy; as long as you signed up with Pay Pal or your credit card information.

      As I wrote to comment to the principal and contact person...."it was completely alright for me to complete the surveys with my answers based upon my experience with Tinnitus and my weekly level; along with my application information to share to R/A....but not so fast when it comes to the 30 day free trial; we need your credit card or pay pal information.

      Since I live in the US....it just didn't seem prudent to palm off my credit card information when trying to fix credit card problems with the US is a chore; but, trying to resolve any potential credit card information problems on an International turf? Negative. Nope. Nyet. Uh uh. Nein and just No. If the response for the study yielded a few hundred or a few thousand applicants...the percentage of those signing in out of desperation or curiosity just has the appearance of a great target marketing tactic.

      Again..the red flag of my participation with all the information that R/A needed only to find out my pay off would be subject to further information....Pay Pal or credit card just lost all the appeal of a hopeful cure. I'm sorry to hear that the folks getting to try out the 30 day free effort didn't find any positive results....so it's starting to look like yet another "T-Cure" going no where.
       
    14. applewine
      Curious

      applewine Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Myofascial Trigger Points
      Did they post the results of the trial? I'm not expecting anything, but I wonder what the results were.
       
    15. RaZaH
      Not amused

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      Tried contacting them through their page, that does not work.?
       
    16. Dan Turner
      Transparent

      Dan Turner Member

      Location:
      Conyers, Georgia
      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      I got a note from Eimear today...which prompted me to come over to T-Talk to catch up on all of the positive results from the test & control group study from last year.

      Conspicuous by its absence is anything under the search for Eimear O'Caroll that says anything at all. I'll search further for Somtus, but I assume .... no news means no good news.
       
    17. RaZaH
      Not amused

      RaZaH Member Benefactor Team Tech

      Location:
      Reykjavík, Iceland
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012/04
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Benzo + loud noise
      This is simply a 70hz sinewave, I cannot for the life of me figure out what that can possibly do for T ?
       
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    18. Steve H
      Creative

      Steve H Director Staff Benefactor Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Unfortunately the trial won't prove efficacy, it's a basic trial only whose data can only be used to see if they should investigate the treatment properly.

      A control group who have zero treatment, versus a group with treatment - intervention alone will give a positive outcome.

      A control group should also have an intervention (placebo) which lets them measure the success of the actual treatment, therefore the use of a control group in this trial is utterly pointless.
       
    19. Steve H
      Creative

      Steve H Director Staff Benefactor Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      I received an e-mail from the trial yesterday. It claims a success (15% reduction) but from what they have printed it appears to be a very poor result indeed.

      On the two charts of the questionnaires used to measure the results, the first shows a 7.6% decrease for those on the treatment, the second shows around a 9% decrease for those on the treatment (which is also pretty close to the reduction of those who got no treatment).

      I know the percentage change math is right, I'm not the best at it but it's pretty basic (I even used an online calculator to double check), so how did they arrive at an average 15% decrease in severity? The average is 8.3% (9 + 7.6 / 2)?

      The control group (who just completed the questionnaire and had no treatment) had an average decrease of about 4%.

      They have a claim on their site now that the therapy has been clinically proven to give 15% reduction after 1 month; I don't see that this has been shown, unless there is something I'm missing. To me this only shows that it's worth considering a proper, placebo controlled, double blind randomised controlled trial to see if this small improvement is significant when properly tested.

      I'm critical of this because of the way it's being used. If they said that it was a first trial, the results seem good so they will progress to a placebo controlled trial, fair enough. The fact is that they stacked the deck to make sure the results were positive and are now marketing it as a proof; it isn't robust enough to be a proof so just doesn't feel right to me.
       
    20. Leo1994
      Suicidal

      Leo1994 Member

      Location:
      Sweden
      Tinnitus Since:
      2005
      I just got this email.

      Hi all,
      Thanks for getting in touch about the tinnitus clinical trial that ran from September last year, I really appreciated your volunteering. The trial has now finished.
      Many of you expressed the wish to be informed of the results so I'm attaching a short summary of the results.
      The trial was positive and the therapy is now available on restoredhearing.com if you wish to try it. If you have any questions please get in touch with me or with info@restoredhearing.com.
      Kind regards, S
      Eimear
      --
      Eimear O' Carroll
      Masters of Physics
      University of Edinburgh
      E: tinnitustrial@gmail.com
       

      Attached Files:

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    21. Viktor Salvatore
      Smug

      Viktor Salvatore Member

      Location:
      Las Vegas, Nevada
      Tinnitus Since:
      7-5-11
      Yep, i got the same email yesterday. They had my information as i signed up to participate in their study, but was turned down as they said they had too many volunteers...that was last year. I was notified by email by the American Tinnitus Association of this study.

      Well, i don't know what to make of this. I would like to hear from others out there that participated in this study or are using the program before i part with funds for this.

      It is very uplifting that another therapy has become available. However so, i've been let down soo much before...that i don't even blink when another comes our way.
       
    22. Steve H
      Creative

      Steve H Director Staff Benefactor Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      @Viktor Salvatore @Leo1994 Threads merged, see above for my take on this research, the results aren't good in my opinion.
       
    23. Viktor Salvatore
      Smug

      Viktor Salvatore Member

      Location:
      Las Vegas, Nevada
      Tinnitus Since:
      7-5-11
      HI Steve H.

      Thanks for the follow up. I read your post and totally agree with you that 15% is not enough. Quite frankly, sound therapies in general are useless and offer no remediation. I have used Sound Cure for several weeks and it only made the noise get louder....not softer as they advertised....and saying that it works for some and not others is just a catch 45 in hopes you'll catch 45 suckers.

      Yep....that is my take on sound therapy. The real way is medicine. This is where the focus should be.

      Thanks again Steve.
       
    24. Steve H
      Creative

      Steve H Director Staff Benefactor Team Trobalt Team Tech Team Awareness Team Research

      Location:
      York, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      2003
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Flu, Noise-induced, Jaw trauma
      Sound therapy is a very difficult thing because we all have different reactions to sounds, built over a lifetime of listening. Take music: My idea of beautiful melody could be as boring as hell to you. Your idea of a soul touching warmth could leave me cold. I could love one sound and that very same sound could be painful for you to listen to.

      I think that some people can benefit from it but not when you have a "one size fits all" approach. I think that it would take the creator of the sound therapy sitting down with each individual and really going through the reactions to lots of different sounds and patterns to get it right. At the price some of these companies charge that seems perfectly feasible to me, but alas it doesn't happen.

      If you tested the 15% of this particular therapy (which is misreported from what I see and should be 8%) against placebo, I wouldn't be surprised if it showed very little positive effect.
       
    25. Danny Boy
      Cheerful

      Danny Boy Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      England
      Tinnitus Since:
      7/2014
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Has anyone tried restored hearing? I'm thinking about subscribing, does it do anything?
       
    26. amandine

      amandine Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      july 2014
    27. Leah

      Leah Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chardon, Ohio USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Popped on my Twitter that Restored hearing has been released to public.
      Anyone know about this company and program?
       
    28. amandine

      amandine Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      july 2014
      @Leah

      Please read the thread!! If you go back and have a read through you will find all answers as will @Danny Boy
       
    29. Leah

      Leah Member Benefactor

      Location:
      Chardon, Ohio USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      2007
      Thanks
       
    30. ady

      ady Member

      I wasted a lot of money on this "treatment". I stuck to it with no results.

      Do not recommend!
       

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