SIU Awarded $942,500 Grant from Government to Investigate GABA and Tinnitus

Wow - thanks Erik! Some interesting facts this article gave.

 

It's been 3 years since this post came out.
So what was the outcome of the research done by SIU (Southern Illinois University) school of medicine?

 

Nothing, like in all other grants for t, they just take the money, and give some piece of paper at the end that says nothing.

Most stupid thing people are thinking and saying here on tt that we have so many things for t now in 2015.
What do we have? TRT and Benzos, wooow, we had it 50 years ago, so NOTHING.

 

We have sf0034, am-101 and 102, and otonomy actively working on treatments. Now these may not be the cure we are looking for but they show signs of possibly being able to help, much more than benzos. Along with that more importantly is the knowledge about the condition that was unknown before, as researches actually trying to learn more about the condition and companies are using this research to trial drugs specifically for tinnitus. I doubt all that was going on 50 years ago.

 

All of that is nice, sf34, am101, 3 months ago u would write AUT63 at the first place i suppose.
But does it change fact that i wrote, that we have same as we had 50 years ago?!

I am not talking about what would we MAYBE have in future.

 

Isn't TRT from the nineties? CBT Is also relatively new. There are also stuff like Neuromonics, Vagus Nerve Stimulation, Biofeedback... What I'm trying to say is, there are more methods, and more stuff being developed. It's not my intention to start a discussion about this or that method, for every detractor and bad experience there seems to be someone who is happy with the results. I guess what matters is that there are more options, and maybe better methods in the future. We also have to count the natural progression of the field as people learn (current therapies may be improved as the field learn from its experiences) and the part serendipity plays in science (there are people in this forum who swear that an epilepsy drug helped them, who knows, maybe tomorrow we learn there is some other medication that can be used on T, maybe a pharmaceutical company developing a drug for a completely unrelated field finds out it works for T - Viagra and Penicillin come to mind as "happy accidents" that tend to happen more often than not)

I have some research experience, not in the field of medicine, but still... If you look short term (10 years) things always seem to be moving too slow, but compare, I mean, really compare, the diseases and treatments we had 50 years ago and what we got now. It's no coincidence that people are living longer and healthier.

Science is frustrating, a lot of time is spent on wrong paths, but there is no way of knowing right from wrong if we don't try it.

Personally, as a patient, I stopped trying to look for the next "what might be", as I think it will only cause frustration.

Best,

 

This stuff either has no peer-reviewed data showing it works, or doesn't even aim to lessen the symptoms (TRT and CBT).

 

All I'm saying is that there has been progress. Yes we still don't have anything yet, but we are a heck of a lot closer. 50 years ago I doubt they had a clue that T was related to the brain at all, now we have drugs being tested that are targeting certain parts of the brain that could possibly bring relief. Thats a pretty big difference in the grand scheme of things.

 

In this moment nov.2015 there is no even single drug trial for chronic t. (all ppl here on TT are, or will be chronic in few months).
As we now, any new drug from phase I to market is process of at least 8 to 10 years.

So, what do we have at the moment, just speculations about bright future. (For those who did not learn AUT63 lesson).

I would like more than everything that we have something now, or at least in 5 years, but the sad fact is that we don't have.

 

Who knows, maybe one of the drugs being developed for acute T will still have an effect on chronic T. Obviously it would be a lot less, but I bet anyone on here would happily take even a small reduction if given the chance. I understand your argument, but I think it is healthy to be cautiously optimistic. I'm not saying live your life only hoping for a cure, but try to be positive. I myself have a very hard time with this, but I certainly feel better during the day when I have at least a little hope that I can live a normal life someday. Then other days when I have no hope for my future I am miserable. You never know when the next breakthrough in the medical field will be.

 

I understand u, same as I... Fail of AUT63, was devastating feeling, now everything looks so far away.
Hope your optimism is gonna have right, and that some kind of medical relief is gonna be possible in near future.

Best,

 

Screw medication. It takes too long to get to market. Hope for a surgery or something like that because it will be out like a year or 2 after it's invented.

 

I just don't see how any surgery would be able to help, but I guess thats why I'm not a wealthy medical researcher. Although I do find that one post about getting through the blood brain barrier to deliver brain medications more effectively very interesting.

 

I feel ya, I've been having a hard time lately so I guess I just want to see more positive posts around here. But the truth is the truth and we just don't know how any of this is going to unfold.
Cheers

 

Its True that for the moment there is nothing for chronic tinnitus.
But my question to the TT community is wether there is something reliable to take to avoid tinnitus worsening?

 

It doesn't really involve taking any medication, but as most would agree earplugs are the best thing we have so far.

 

We have a lot more "band aid" (read: money taking) approaches but still far far away from anything PROVEN to help

 

The only new Info I've found.

Clinical trials supported by the Tinnitus Research Consortium: Lessons learned, the Southern Illinois University experience

Abstract
The Tinnitus Research Consortium funded three clinical trials investigating treatments for chronic bothersome tinnitus at Southern Illinois University School of Medicine. The trials were designed to measure the subjective changes in tinnitus distress using standardized questionnaires and objective changes in tinnitus loudness using psychophysical matching procedures. The results of the first two trials have been published and are summarized here. The first trial investigated the effect of gabapentin on the loudness and annoyance of tinnitus in adults with chronic bothersome tinnitus with and without a history of acoustic trauma. A small but significant number of subjects reported decreased tinnitus annoyance that corresponded with a decrease in objective measures of tinnitus loudness during active drug treatment with a washout effect during placebo treatment. The second trial compared the effect of tinnitus retraining therapy (TRT) on adults with normal to near-normal hearing and chronic bothersome tinnitus to treatment with general counseling without acoustic enrichment. Significant improvements in tinnitus severity, but not in objective psychometric measures of tinnitus loudness, occurred in both treatment groups, however a greater effect was observed in the TRT group compared with the control group. The third trial is nearing completion and investigates the long-term results of tinnitus retraining therapy on chronic bothersome tinnitus in adults with hearing loss. Significant lessons and observations on conducting tinnitus clinical trials were learned from these three trials. The challenges of recruiting and retaining study participants is discussed. More importantly, the reliability and stability of the Tinnitus Handicap Inventory (THI) over long intervals is presented. The implications of this variability for the design and interpretation of future tinnitus studies is discussed.

Link: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25983218

 

All in all another mil down the drain!

 

Well, the results of the two completed SIU trials seem to bolster two things that I personally believe are true:

1. Gabapentin can reduce tinnitus in some people. Did for me when I took it for shingles. Unfortunately, the side effects weren't worth it, at least not with the massive doses I was taking. But I may, with my doctor's guidance, try a lower dose and see if its effective.
More here: https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/gabapentin-neurontin.3162/page-4#post-140722

2. TRT (or, in my opinion, any sound therapy including Neuromonics) is more effective when coupled with psychological counseling (which, again my opinion, should be cognitive behavioral therapy). And counseling is most beneficial when paired with sound therapy. It certainly was for me. I did Neuromonics coupled with CBT for about a year. My doctors have agreed that among the tinnitus patients they have seen, the ones that fare best are those that combine these two treatments.

I recognize these studies don't lead to the cure or novel new treatment we all keep hoping for. But it does show that there are some things out there worth trying.