The Current Year Is 2018

Discussion in 'Support' started by threefirefour, Apr 7, 2018.

    1. fishbone
      Shitfaced

      fishbone Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1988
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud noise and very bad sickness
      If I have made an impact in just one person's life, then I have achieved my goal. I come here to help people and support people and it is great knowing that I am making a difference......
       
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    2. Liam_Cairns

      Liam_Cairns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Originally loud Music and was worsened by Micro-suction
      As I have said several times, tinnitus is easier when you are already old and have lived somewhat of a life. If I only had 20 years left I could habituate aswell. But me and many others have much more time ahead of us. You will never understand what it is like to be young with tinnitus. So don't act like you understand, because you really dont and never will. So just stop and think before you post on threads like this.

      I understand what you mean about moving on with your life, but you see tinnitus through a completely different lense to us. Moving on is hard when your life has barely begun. Most of you are retired and have time to emotionally process tinnitus, whereas a lot of us youngsters dont.
       
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    3. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      TRT is practiced at my NHS hospital. Although treatments for tinnitus will vary throughout the UK, there is usually some form of treatment available for a patient which is given completely free. If treatment isn't available at a person's local hospital and they are able to travel, then a patient can be referred to another hospital. I mean no disrespect with the following comments, but I suggest you follow my advice in my previous post as you are looking at this whole process quite negatively.

      Michael
       
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      threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      It's sad but that's how it is. TRT is an obsolete model. The fact it's still around is awful.
       
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      threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      I have a legit question. Would you continue to blatantly shill for TRT when a treatment comes out?
       
    6. Liam_Cairns

      Liam_Cairns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Originally loud Music and was worsened by Micro-suction
      I mean there is little to no actual scientific peer reviewed journal articles that actually back up TRT, im not a massive fan of CBT, but it at the very least has a lot of evidence supporting its use. So what she said is right sadly, its an outdated model.
       
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    7. fishbone
      Shitfaced

      fishbone Member Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1988
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      loud noise and very bad sickness
      As usual I have to chime in and comment on comments that are pure rubbish. I got my tinnitus as a teen and I lived through it all and that's why I can come here and help people. I been in your shoes and KNOW what you people go through. Also, It did not take me 20-30 years to habituate. I was a teen that had tinnitus and brutal hyperacusis.

      Only difference is that now,I don't have hyperacusis but my tinnitus is WAY louder and intense and I am older and more mature.

      So I fully know how it feels and I had the same issues as all youngsters had......

      PS- as a 20 year old, I already had the hearing loss of a 40-50 year old. So I fully understand what pressures teens go through.....

      PSS- Also, you have an advantage over me. You have this site and people like ME coming here and trying to help you and advise you. I never had a mentor as a teen, no one told me what @Michael Leigh posts on this site. If i had this site and all the warnings that @Michael Leigh or even @Bill Bauer puts out. I'd not have the intrusive and destructive tinnitus I have today. Count yourself very lucky that people like myself and other vets (people that have good knowledge and experience with tinnitus) exists and we come here to support this board...

      If i had this board, my volume would probably be half as loud and much less intensity...
       
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    8. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I take a dislike to you referring me as a shill for TRT. Please put your question to me more politely and I know you can, then I may consider answering you.

      Michael
       
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      threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      The one big paper on TRT suggests that it's effective, but less effective than a WNG, and it's so bad that "part TRT" (half of TRT sessions) are more effective. It's hilariously outdated.
       
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    10. Liam_Cairns

      Liam_Cairns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Originally loud Music and was worsened by Micro-suction
      In that case I apologise and take back what I said. I am sorry I shouldn't have assumed.
       
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      threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      If you don't want to be called a TRT shill, then don't shill for it.
       
    12. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I will continue to advise people on TRT as an when I feel it is necessary and if you don't like it that is your affair. In future, if you ask me a question and it is disrespectful then I will not answer you.

      Michael
       
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    13. Tinker Bell

      Tinker Bell Member Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      SSHL from virus
      I have seen a dozen different ENTs, ear specialists and audiologists yet not one recommended or provided TRT. In fact, two leading ear specialists told me TRT was a poor excuse for a treatment. I saw doctors at highly regarded teaching hospitals in the U.S. who were knowledgeable about current research and studies. If they do not recommend TRT, then who is?
       
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    14. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Liam, now that you have a better understanding of fishbone’s life story, what do you think?
       
    15. Liam_Cairns

      Liam_Cairns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Originally loud Music and was worsened by Micro-suction
      I think I shouldn't assume in future tbh. Especially if im ever going to make it as a Psych. I still disagree with a lot of what fishbone says, but at the same time I do agree with some of what he says on habituation and he is right about the fact at least I have access to this info and how helpful it could be at preventing further increases. I know what I said sounded quite aggressive but I genuinely believe that fishbone has good intentions.
       
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    16. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Intriguing stuff:
      Psychiatrist - Psychoanalyst - Psychologist - Psychopath......which is it.....?
       
    17. jay777

      jay777 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      benzo/ headphones
      So the head of my NHS tinnitus clinic is lying to me? TRT is available?
       
    18. Liam_Cairns

      Liam_Cairns Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Originally loud Music and was worsened by Micro-suction
      Psycopath 100%, nah but actually I hope to one day become a clinical Psychologist. Give my life some purpose by helping others. Why do you ask?
       
    19. Jazzer

      Jazzer Member Benefactor Ambassador Hall of Fame Advocate

      Location:
      UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      1/1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      @Liam_Cairns

      Though I’ve been a jazz musician and a retailer all my life, my hobby has been reading psychology.
      It was absolutely born out of necessity.
      In a nutshell:
      Mentally sick mother, no bonding, rubbish drug therapy from idiotic psychiatrist, good psychoanalytic experiences etc....
      but my in-depth reading was what made sense of my life.
      Psychology is the Bisso- no question about it.
      Good luck to you buddy.
      Jazzer x
       
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    20. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      It is up to you what you want to believe, I am only telling you certain truths. I will not divulge the hospital that I attend but I assure you, TRT is practiced there and it's the full treatment not a scaled down version of it. Counselling and white noise generators are prescribed.

      Michael
       
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    21. jay777

      jay777 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      benzo/ headphones
      Why will you not tell me the hospital?
       
    22. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      It's something I do not do nothing personal...

      You have been offered CBT which is a good treatment so I advise you to try it.
       
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      threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
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    24. jay777

      jay777 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      benzo/ headphones
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    25. Zug
      Woot

      Zug Member Benefactor

      I wonder if those who are complaining have made a donation to ATA, TRI, even TinnitusTalk?

      I don't see many people with the "Benefactor" badge. Why is that?

      Complaining is easy.

      Do your part first, than at least you can have some credibility when you feel like venting. ;)
       
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    26. jay777

      jay777 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      benzo/ headphones
      Why would someone hold back info on a hospital where I may get TRT?
       
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    27. advocate21

      advocate21 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      06/2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Maybe he is afraid someone will dig up his real identity if he divulges the hospital he attends...
       
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      threefirefour
      Peeping tom

      threefirefour Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      California
      Tinnitus Since:
      5/15/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      140dB B R U H moment
      Not an argument.
       
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    29. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I have tried to help you by answering questions and giving you advice. Try not to make negative thinking take a hold as it can stop you from habitating. Please do not follow or listen to the negative advice by some members of this forum CBT, TRT and other tinnitus treatments work but they won't if you convince yourself they will not. One assured way of achieving this is by listening to negative thinking people and there are quite a few here. If you put those people to one-side listen to positive thinking people such as @fishbone @glynis @Samantha R @Ed209 @billie48 and there are many more you have the chance of making steady improvement.

      Michael
       
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    30. Zug
      Woot

      Zug Member Benefactor

      Not an argument. A call to action. ;)
       
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