Tinnitus Down to 1/10 — Eating 8 Bananas a Day

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by DavidTyl, Feb 21, 2021.

    1. Ronald_Repo

      Ronald_Repo Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Corona
      Hi there, new here, signed up because I have gotten (mild) tinnitus as an after effect of COVID-19 and am researching it.

      I'd like to share a thing or two about bananas and Potassium:

      The Paleo diet contains about 8000 milligrams of potassium a day. The RDA is about 3500-4700 mg a day. So don't worry about getting too much Potassium while eating bananas, which contain about 400 mg. 8 x 400 mg =3200 mg.

      Also, the big difference between Potassium pills and getting Potassium from food is that Potassium is slowly released from food (+ some B vitamins in the food help its absorption)... while Potassium in OTC supplements is rapidly absorbed.

      Because rapid absorption can cause electrolyte imbalances in the blood, OTC supplements are limited to 100 mg per pill.

      Taking too many of the OTC pills in one time can quite literally kill you by causing grave electrolyte imbalance that causes cardiac arrhythmia and worse. It can stop your heart, which is nearly universally agreed upon to be a bad thing.

      You can get slow-K, a slowly releasing Potassium pill, as a doctor's prescription. Swallow those whole, if you bite them the Potassium is released much more rapidly, and that's not a good thing.

      In all, getting your Potassium from bananas is highly preferable to pills.

      Also, Potassium (and thus, bananas) helps against COVID-19, because COVID-19 interferes with Aldosterone signalling, hence sneakily creating a Potassium deficit, so you will not just be helping your tinnitus (if it works), but also be protected to some extent to the Potassium-depleting effect of the virus.

      I can vouch for this personally; I got COVID-19 in March 2020, and at some point I had to eat bananas and take Potassium pills (Slow-K) just to stop the chest pain from coming back, every day for weeks on end. It's a life-safer.

      I have gotten the Long COVID-19 out of most of my body, but now that I've finally moved up to the point of detoxing my brain, it is giving me a bit of tinnitus.

      Still, not as annoying as the chest pain, brain fog, prickling sensations, kidney pain, kidney stones, spleen infarction, and about 30-40 other symptoms I've had in the past 14 months.

      If I may have a suggestion to improve on the banana diet: try to mix in some eggs (boiled, fried, etc). Eggs contain choline, which is a precursor of acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter. Eggs have gotten a bad rap years ago because there's cholesterol in it; what they have failed to mention is that eggs also contain all the micronutrients to properly process that cholesterol. (I think we can safely say that billions of years of evolution has made sure that the chicken only puts sane stuff in those eggs, and the +/- 150 years of modern medicine still has a lot of catching up to do.)

      Eggs + bananas will probably help a subset of tinnitus sufferers. It's not going to help everyone. Worth a try if you're going crazy.

      Or bananas, obviously. Hope this helps.
       
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    2. Ben Winders
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      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      I think I speak for everyone when I say that it's great to have you hear. What a great first post. I think mine was something like "I hate this sh*t" :D

      So please keep updating how you get along. How many bananas per day you are eating? How many eggs? What are they doing to help you?
       
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    3. twa
      Busy

      twa Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017- mild /Sept. 2020-moderate
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      meds/acoustic trauma
      I agree, great post! I appreciate when someone has knowledge in an area and can convey it in a clear manner. Your banana posts are the best though.
       
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    4. twa
      Busy

      twa Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      2017- mild /Sept. 2020-moderate
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      meds/acoustic trauma
      Hey, @Ben Winders, we need a banana update!
       
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    5. Sentinel
      No Mood

      Sentinel Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      Late November/Early December 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Really epic hobbies
      Guys there may be more to this. I've been eating more bananas recently as snacks and haven't changed anything else and noticed a slight down tick in my tinnitus.

      I'm only having one or two per day but if you're at the grocery store, grab some. It might help.
       
    6. Ben Winders
      Pensive

      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      Banana update:

      I'm about to hit an important phase: I'm currently in the process of tapering from my lifeline Deanxit. I'll be flying the banana rocket to nowhere without side helper wheels, if you will. Let's see if Chiquita does what Deanxit was doing so well, or better: how much of it was Deanxit, how much was Chiquita.

      I seem drunk with so much rambling, but I assure you, I'm only overdosing on bananas, not anything else.
       
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    7. Robster
      Irritated

      Robster Member

      Location:
      South Gloucestershire, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      January 2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Acoustic trauma - MRI
      What the heck, I'm going to give the banana binge a go. Don't think I can do eight a day though!
       
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    8. Ben Winders
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      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      Take it from a banana pro (me): mix it up a bit with smoothies... I start every day with 5 bananas smashed to mush in a smoothie. I don't eat bread anymore in the morning.
       
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    9. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

      Location:
      Toronto, Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      How is your coming off Deanxit going?
       
    10. Ben Winders
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      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      So far so good — I have now stopped completely. I took a half Deanxit 2 days ago, that was the last one.

      I don't notice a pump in severity but also not sure how long it takes for Deanxit to leave my system entirely.

      I'll keep updating.
       
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    11. Cher2

      Cher2 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      3/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      unknown
      Are you still going strong with the 8 bananas a day?
       
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    12. Ben Winders
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      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      I am - but not sure it's actually helping the tinnitus, or that it will help anyone else. (I guess I'd have to quit to really check)

      On the positive side, I was expecting more of a downfall after quitting Deanxit but I'm happy to say that I'm holding my ground.

      Obviously every time my drone noise pops up I move closer to the edge again... that's a different beast. Still haven't figured that one out. It comes on after car rides, even 1 minute long car rides (I was just testing, I don't really take my car for stuff that is 1 minute away > SAVE THE PLANET). When I sleep in a quiet room, it also "starts itself up" in the middle of the night (not right away > very strange).
       
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    13. nocticolor
      No Mood

      nocticolor Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Funny, I’ve recently acquired that drone noise and I’ve realized it only happens when there’s silence, too. If I’m in a quiet room or wearing earplugs, it starts up. Can’t sleep with any background noise as that makes my other noises act up and I feel like my ears need that break at night.
       
    14. Ben Winders
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      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      Any idea what caused you to get the drone noise?

      Keep in mind that the background noise I put on at night is at VERY LOW volume on a MacBook that I put on the floor... I can barely hear the white noise, but even the low volume seems enough to keep the brain / ear busy and not start up the drone.

      Does your drone also stop when someone talks to you or you shake your head in a "no" movement?
       
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    15. nocticolor
      No Mood

      nocticolor Member

      Location:
      Germany
      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      No idea, unfortunately. I’ve been doing pretty okay for the most part but upsettingly enough, have been getting new noises for the past two weeks.

      Luckily my drone seems to go away during the day for now. I tested it out tonight after your post and when the drone wasn’t as intense it seemed to go away when I shook my head, but as it reached its max volume I could hear it even when shaking my head. Have yet to test out what happens when someone talks to me.
       
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    16. Chinmoku

      Chinmoku Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2018
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Started with a cold, possibly worsened by medication/noise
      I don't know about this banana effect, 8 bananas is a lot of sugar. If it is the Potassium, could we try supplementation instead? Could it be something else?

      But I wanted really to ask you about the Deanxit. It is not available in the UK but I could talk to a neurologist to get it mailed. However, it has been banned in a few countries, it has a scary list of side effects and I wonder whether I should try it or not. What is the idea? Is it possible you take it only for a few weeks, it lowers your tinnitus, you stop, and the tinnitus stays low? I know this is the best case scenario but was this the idea of the doctor who prescribed it to you? For how long would he prescribe it? Thanks in advance.
       
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    17. Chris S.

      Chris S. Member

      Location:
      United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      February 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Exposure to loud sound; Pfizer vaccine
      Stay away from Deanxit - I've tried it in the past with bad side effects.

      Sorry if I sound like spoiling the banana fun - I like bananas a lot and have been eating 5-7 of them a day for months and months in a row. They never did anything to help lower my tinnitus levels.
       
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    18. Exit

      Exit Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      Hey Ben,

      Was it only Deanxit that helped temporarily?
      No banana effect?

      Fun fact; doctors were treating Coeliac children in England with a banana diet long before they new what gluten intolerance was.

      Too bad it couldn’t solve our stupid problems....
       
    19. Ben Winders
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      Ben Winders Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      acoustic
      Which side effects would those be? Only thing they warned me about was twitching of the mouth, but that doesn't happen to everyone and it occurs primarily at high doses.

      That said: Deanxit makes you think less / focus less on the tinnitus. It's like you are climbing up Mountain Everest and Deanxit is your Sherpa. No need to worry about the luggage. Now - I recently stopped Deanxit and obviously this feels like the Sherpa suddenly realized he forgot to turn off the stove at his home and handing you back your luggage at 6000 meters (19600 feet). Very heavy burden to bear again.

      So Deanxit is really only a temporary patch although there are people that are on it for life.
       
    20. Chris S.

      Chris S. Member

      Location:
      United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      February 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Exposure to loud sound; Pfizer vaccine
      I had inability to sleep, nervousness, awful heartburn, etc. The heartburn, in particular, I remember as being "off the charts". I couldn't take Deanxit for more than a week. There are many newer alternatives, but many of them, I am afraid (including Deanxit itself), have other side effects.

      Many drugs in this class are temporary patches, indeed. After some time, they begin to lose their usefulness (I had extreme TMJ problems for years and was put on a number of them).
       
    21. fuji

      fuji Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      27/1/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown - maybe gaming headphones
      This thread definitely made me laugh. I'm willing to try 8 bananas a day if it helps my tinnitus.

      It seems 3-4 people on this thread have seen somewhat positive effects?

      I got my tinnitus from playing games with headphones on too loud.
       
    22. morgothaod

      morgothaod Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      03/2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear infection
      Update?
       
    23. Exit

      Exit Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      01/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise
      He plays the FREQ game with us. First getting our hopes up, then silence and lots of vague tweets.

      I'm thinking Ben needs to dump a ton of Chiquita stocks before he comes back!
       
    24. Jackie41

      Jackie41 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/16
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Aeroplane/ Bereavement
      I read somewhere that there was a study where they tested tinnitus sufferers with Magnesium, the noise was reduced. So going back to @DavidTyl, there is high levels of Magnesium in bananas, and I wonder if this could be the case. However, I have tried Magnesium supplements for around 3 weeks; they never worked, but the Magnesium out of fruit may work. It is worth a try.
       
    25. Stuart-T
      Thinking

      Stuart-T Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear wax or COVID-19 infection
      Bananas are not that rich in Magnesium. You need 10 bananas on 1 day to equal your RDA for Magnesium.

      The OP recommended 8 bananas eaten well spaced through the day.

      HE DID NOT RECOMMEND POTASSIUM SUPPLEMENTS.
      HE DID NOT RECOMMEND EATING 5 AT BREAKFAST IN A SMOOTHIE OR WHATEVER.

      If you want to test his plan - try as he says. It makes sense - well spaced banana snacks will not bombard the body with Potassium - what you need is an even steady supply.

      There is a possibility - that his experience with bananas and reduced tinnitus is purely co-incidental.

      I wanted him to come off his banana plan and report back on the effect but he never did.
       
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    26. Stuart-T
      Thinking

      Stuart-T Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear wax or COVID-19 infection
      OK, I am trying this banana cure.

      I had 2 large bananas yesterday. 1 in morning, 1 at night and I woke today with lower than expected tinnitus - 1/3 lower.

      Today I will eat 3 bananas - the day after 4 banans. The OP ate 8 bananas as that is how many were available. It may be that fewer will have the same effect so I will build up.

      I will report back.
       
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    27. Blackbird1016

      Blackbird1016 Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Music Festival
      Is your tinnitus noise induced? I hate bananas but am considering this.
       
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    28. Stuart-T
      Thinking

      Stuart-T Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear wax or COVID-19 infection
      No, not noise induced. But it is worth trying whatever the cause.
       
    29. Stuart-T
      Thinking

      Stuart-T Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2022
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ear wax or COVID-19 infection
      Ok looks like I failed to keep going. I ate 5 bananas yesterday and frankly woke with normal tinnitus level - for me. I would think if it was going to work at all, I would notice some reduction two days running. Also as others have pointed out - bananas are probably one of the least healthy fruits due to high fructose, bad carb content. One or maybe two is quite reasonable - but many more than that is not.
       
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