Chiropractor

Discussion in 'Alternative Treatments and Research' started by mike, Feb 5, 2013.

    1. mike

      mike Member

      Location:
      Franklin ohio
      Tinnitus Since:
      1 1/2 months
      I went to a chiropractor yesterday at the VA. They did some x rays. I had to things wrong with my neck. My neck has never hurt. Dont know what they called it. But I will get the terms and post them. We went through what was out of place. He said he has done alot with people that has Tinnitus. I have 4 more appointments with him every week. He grabbed my neck and said he was going to do two adjustments. It felt like everything in my neck just cracked. I dont know if it is going to help out all. He said some people he has dealt with it has done nothing, some has reduce the volume by 50%, some has gotten rid of it 100% according to him. Has anyone out there been to a Chiropractor and did it help or do more damage?
       
    2. Karen
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      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Mike, I've been to three chiropractors over the past couple years. Here's what happened:

      The first one used a special machine for spinal adjustments; he indicated he had helped people with tinnitus, but it did not help me! In fact, it seemed to make my back worse, so I stopped going there. Then, someone recommended a specialized chiropractor who did Atlas orthotic adjustments (upper cervical area). I had two adjustments, and he tried some heat therapy treatments on my ear. The Atlas adjustment corrected my gait, so that I am more balanced now. But it did nothing for my tinnitus.

      Currently, I'm going to a chiropractic neurologist, who does seem to be helping me, so far. He has not done any sort of neck adjustments; his speciality is various eye and muscular exercises to correct brain imbalances. I am still going to him, and I have noticed an improvement in my tinnitus. I'll update at a later date on this.

      Please keep us posted on your progress with the chiropractor. I'll be interested to know if it helps!
       
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      mike

      mike Member

      Location:
      Franklin ohio
      Tinnitus Since:
      1 1/2 months
      Karen,
      I will keep you posted on the whole outcome. This one seems very interesting.He seems like he knows what he is talking about.He know about my case before I had ever seen him. Dont know what will happen. I will just wait and see.
       
    4. calin
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      calin Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      Oct 2011
      I'll be watching!
       
    5. Karen
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      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Thanks, Mike. I hope this chiropractor is able to help you. Will be interested to hear how it goes!
       
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    6. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      Check the neck, what the heck? I also thought mine was possibly cervical related, and I have seen a chiropractor recently. I had quite a few problems with my neck over the years, probably from car accidents, welding, farming etc.
      I was also looking into upper cervical. I thought sure it was helping my T as each adjustment seemingly improved it.
      But in the end I may have been chasing another wild goose. I thought about 20-25 % of T cases was caused by cervical, but am not sure if it helped or not. I read that c1-c3 problems can in some cases cause T. He really loosened up my neck though, as it was possibly stiff from being in front of the computer reading TT. Ha ha.
       
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    7. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      Mike, Karen & others,
      Just thought I would update you on my appointment with a orthopedic doctor (neck & back). We discussed sleep apnea and cortisone injections to the neck . I previously had a epidural to my neck, under live xray, a couple years ago. That didn't have much effect. He said that having a cortisone injection to my upper neck area could possibly help T. (not epidural)

      I had my first cortisone shot to my hand a couple months ago, and it did wonders.(to my hand) Also discussed sleep apnea and how you could "starve" the brain & ears of oxygen. He said that is possible, and to use CPAP. I will update on this later. I think I will stay away from Chiro's for awhile. Hope this info may possibly help some others.
       
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    8. joejunior

      joejunior Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2001
      Steer well clear of chiros
       
    9. Markku
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      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      For the sake of conversation, would you care to elaborate on that statement?
       
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    10. Jason White

      Jason White Member

      Location:
      Los Angeles
      Tinnitus Since:
      2012
      I've been going to a chiropractor for a couple of months. It has done nothing to lower the volume of my tinnitus. My neck and back feel great, though! ;)
       
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    11. mick

      mick Member Benefactor

      Location:
      USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      11/2012
      I've been going to a chiropractor for 4 weeks. I've had some improvement in my tinnitus over that time, but I can't say for sure it is do to the chiropractor. It,s possible, but I've been trying multiple things so its hard to sort out what accounts for the improvement. It might just the habituation process, or my more relaxed attitude toward the ailment as I've had more time to adjust to it.

      My back and neck feel great too! Maybe that's part of it as well because I find the adjustments relaxing.
       
    12. erik
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      erik Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Washington State, USA
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/15/2012 or earlier?
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Most likely hearing loss
      I've been going to Chiro regularly since last June. My T has definitely improved, however, not so sure it was because of the Chiro, but it makes my back feel good so if my back feels good, then so do I and a happy me helps me deal with T. I think T improves regardless of what methods you take, time seems to be the best treatment for T....
       
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    13. Karen
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      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Erik,
      I agree with you. I think time seems to be the best healer!

      I'm still going to my chiropractic neurologist, and it appears to be helping me (I'm pretty sure, anyway!). The doctors there are working with me on my pulsatile tinnitus, calming areas of the brain that may be causing it to misfire, or overfire. The jury is still out, but I certainly haven't gotten worse. So, we'll see...

      But I still think that tinnitus does improve with time, no matter what.
       
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    14. carlover
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      Location:
      London
      Tinnitus Since:
      1986
      Time ? ......26 years .tick tock tick tock tick tock:giggle:
       
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    15. carlover
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      carlover Member Benefactor

      Location:
      London
      Tinnitus Since:
      1986
      Hi Joe ,They have a dubious record for their marketing techniques ill give you that,but without boring you to tears my dear old mum before having just one treatment from one was in shouting out loud in agony from shooting pains down her back and legs (obviously sciatica nerve) all her dr could do was useless strong painkillers .Without his expertise I just dont know how she would have got through it.
       
    16. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      I had steroid injections into my upper cervical area in the facet joints in 3 different places. My head seems quiet now but may be a one day wonder. My fingers are crossed that it helped but will need more days to verify.
       
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    17. Karen
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      Karen Manager Staff Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      First time: Noise 2nd Time: Ototoxic drug
      Just1morething,
      That's great! Keep us posted on your progress. It would be great if this cured your tinnitus. You could be one of our success stories!
       
    18. just1morething
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      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      Day 2 not as good as Day 1 as right side or ear has a fairly loud hiss. Upper neck left facet joints only were injected, so may make sense. Was good last night though. I woke up with hiss early this morning and will have to wait to have my right side done. Will update later. One day of quiet was sure nice.
       
    19. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      Just updating on my right upper neck facet joint injections that I had on Monday. I was sedated with Fentanyl and Versed. I had total quiet for 1/2- 1 hour under sedation. It was nice to have quiet again, albeit a short while. Now I have a sorta steam hiss on Tuesday. I forgot to use my oral appliance for left TMJ disorder and sleep apnea so that could have played a role also for today. More trial and error to figure out how to get my T as quiet as I can.
       
    20. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
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    21. jazz
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      jazz Member Benefactor

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      eardrum rupture from virus; barotrauma from ETD
      Interesting link. The physician listed on the front page, Aaron Filler, looks legitimate. Impressive credentials. (http://www.healthgrades.com/physician/dr-aaron-filler-3jfhw/background-check)

      I wonder why we've never heard of this treatment? Can't find anything on pubmed. But maybe I'm missing something. Does anyone know anything about this therapy?
       
    22. just1morething
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      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      I did call up NerveMed about facial nerve blocks for tinnitus. She said they only work if caused by muscle spasms. I will ask the local doctor about them when he does my cervical nerve block injections.
       
    23. jazz
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      jazz Member Benefactor

      Location:
      US
      Tinnitus Since:
      8/2012
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      eardrum rupture from virus; barotrauma from ETD
      Another option might be Botox. They use that for certain types of tinnitus.

      Sorry to see your tinnitus is not doing well. :( Mine is fine today.
       
    24. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      Thanks Jazz, Mine is better today :) . I may swap lower cervical nerve block injections for facial nerve block injections if they call me back and OK that for my 4-16 app. I think he may do them.
       
    25. just1morething
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      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      I got my first nerve block today . It was to my left cervical, C2-C5 I think. You need to get the nerve block test before the insurance will let you have a Neuro Ablation. I did ask the doctor about the facial nerve block but he said he cannot due that because it is MRI guided and he only has live XRAY. He also said that was a very delicate area close to the brain. He was going to look into a place closer than CA that may do this. He also mentioned that he would look at my brain MRI for possible nerve impingement causing my T.

      I will update when I get more information regarding this.
      They did not use Fentanyl in the IV so I had no temporary T relief this time. I may look into a Fentanyl patch. Fentanyl patch could be dangerous and was just a idea.
       
    26. Markku
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      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      just1morething: how much do the injections cost? Where did you get the idea first for them? Sorry if you've told somewhere earlier, I must've then missed...
       
    27. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      The first 2 upper cervical facet joint injections cost $9000. My insurance kicks in at 2-3K. I got the idea from a orthopedic doctor. My main goal was possible tinnitus relief and less neck pain. The cost is ridiculously high. I do not know the cost for the Nerve Blocks or the Neuro Ablations. I am looking to try a Fentanyl patch today if I can get a prescription for it at my doc app. Fentanyl is what they used in my first IV and gave me temporary T relief.
       
    28. Markku
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      Markku Founder Staff Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame Advocate

      Tinnitus Since:
      04/2010
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Syringing
      I don't understand how some injections could cost $9000. Isn't it an outpatient procedure anyways; no need to stay overnight?

      Well, we just need to hope that possible tinnitus treatments in the future won't be this expensive...
       
    29. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      quoteL.gif The primary care doctor told me that she only used Fentanyl patch for hospice patients. Back to ENT doc, CPAP, and possibly TMJ doc for now. I don't understand the charges either but the insurance will pick them up. It was just a outpatient procedure for about about 1-2 hours total time. Injections only took about 1/2 hour or less. The doctor today said good sleep is very important. I should try to get off of Zolpidem (ambien) for better REM sleep.
       
    30. just1morething
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      just1morething Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      U.S.
      Tinnitus Since:
      2008
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      TMJ disorder, airplane barotrauma, noise exposure.
      04/18/13 10:09am
      quoteL.gif The facial nerve block may still be in trials according to the doc who did my injections to my neck. I gave him the article and he looked it over. He is looking for a closer location that does that type of injection. I will follow up with a required second cervical nerve block before a Neuro Ablation procedure.

      If the facial nerve block is still in trials, it probably would not be covered by insurance. I did use CPAP with humidifier last night and do seem considerably better today. You should definitely use humidifier w/CPAP, otherwise the air is too cold.

      Also, will look back into TMJ disorder. If T is inner ear based, then is a much more difficult thing to control. If the ear is sending errant signals to the brain by a damaged cochlea, I am unsure what the best strategy is. Maybe the seizure drugs are the best option then or possibly hearing aids.

      At this point the intratympanic AM-101 injections don't seem to have worked very well from what I heard. I don't think the dexamethasone injections have a very good track record either. quoteR.gif
       
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