How to Use Pink/White Noise for Treating Reactive Tinnitus?

Discussion in 'Support' started by alex1975, Sep 24, 2019.

    1. Wrfortiscue
      Cowabunga

      Wrfortiscue Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Trauma
      Hey Michael, I’m trying. Been keeping positive as best as I can. I only research because I’m starting to get stabbing pains and baseline is slightly worsening or at least it feels that way. Maybe it’s just my tinnitus changing. I do worry about getting so bad that I can’t work or drive, I have a kid to take care of.

      My tinnitus therapist I think has bailed on me, or at least hasn’t gotten back to me lol.

      Thanks buddy.
       
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    2. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I understand your reasons for wanting to research the stabbing pains you are experiencing. However, by paying so much attention to changes in tinnitus often builds up stress without one realizing it. The result is: stress makes tinnitus worse and tinnitus makes stress worse and this can become a vicious cycle.

      If possible try and do things to help take away some of the focus from the tinnitus and you'll probably find that you start feeling better. It is just a suggestion. It is understandable what you're going through is stressful. Have a talk with your doctor who may prescribe something to help relax you, or try something herbal like St John's Wort. Talk to your doctor before taking it.

      Take care,
      Michael
       
    3. Eleanor89
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      Eleanor89 Member

      Location:
      Barrow in Furness
      Tinnitus Since:
      1995
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Hello @Wrfortiscue, I also use sound generators and have increased usage slowly to two hours per day. This has taken months increasing in minutes per day. I now find them soothing.

      I also have regular counselling.

      My generators are white noise but it doesn’t sound like white noise at all, it’s a very soft sound.

      I’ve been using my generators since September.

      Sending prayers.
       
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    4. David S

      David S Member Benefactor Ambassador

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      10/2013
      There seems to be a big difference between pink noise and white noise. This is a good site to understand which ones are really pink noise:

      https://hyperacusisfocus.org/pink-noise/

      My sound generators only go up to 10 kHz. Do you think that matters?
       
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    5. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      I agree with you David, the link to the site you mention gives a good explanation of the difference between pink and white noise.

      Three weeks ago I was fitted with new Oticon white noise generators. My audiologist explained they come fitted with hearing aids and are known as such. Since I don't have sufficient hearing loss to warrant the use of hearing aids, they were disabled via computer when I was being fitted.

      It surprised me how advanced these new white noise generators are over my previous devices. I was able to choose three sounds from a choice of over ten if memory serves me correctly. Pink and white noise, ocean waves being the third. I also listened to green, red and brown noise.

      The sound generators are Bluetoothed to my phone using the Oticon app. The app has a equaliser allowing Bass, Midrange and Treble to be finely adjusted on all three sounds.

      I have a preference for pink noise as it sounds the smoothest.

      Michael
       
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    6. Athens

      Athens Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      09/27/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown
      Does listening to pink noise through above the ear sound generators beneficial due to having a pleasant, more soothing sound to listen to or does it allegedly create new auditory pathways to the brain? I have read about the new pathways. It is hard for me to understand how listening to pink noise could result in improvement if a person has a lot of internal damage to their auditory system, but it apparently could result in coaxing the brain to turn the volume button down. Hyperacusis is my more challenging issue (I do have tinnitus, primarily in one ear).
       
    7. bobvann
      Badass

      bobvann Member

      Location:
      Inside the vortex
      Tinnitus Since:
      April 2017
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud shit
      Brown noise is even more soothing than pink noise.
       
    8. David S

      David S Member Benefactor Ambassador

      Tinnitus Since:
      10/2013
      @MindOverMatter, what would you say would be the most essential supplements for tinnitus? I remember that I was reading about it in some of your posts but cannot find it now. Hope you can share it again.

      Thanks,
      David
       
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    9. MindOverMatter

      MindOverMatter Member

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004/05
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown (possibly stress related, and later sound induced)
      @David S, my regimen these days, on a regular basis is...

      Morning:
      - A potent B-vitamin complex
      - Bio-Flavonoids
      - Vitamin D3/K2 (I have deficiency)

      Dinner:
      - Liquid Magnesium

      Bedtime:
      - Omega-3 (with a good ratio of EPA / DHA)
      - 15 mg Zinc (remember to add copper - 2 mg)
      - Small dose liquid Melatonin: 0,25-0,5 ml

      If I need pain killers for any reason, I usually use 600 mg PEA (up to twice a day).

      Supplements are tricky, as its hard to monitor what effect it has + everyone is different. For instance, Magnesium, except for the liquid one I use now, spikes me.

      Hope you are doing somewhat better? You will get there, in time.
       
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    10. David S

      David S Member Benefactor Ambassador

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      10/2013
      @MindOverMatter, thanks, Copper seems dangerous but it is essential with the Zinc? Do you have any brand you trust the most? What brand is the liquid Magnesium? How much do you take?

      Feeling a little better but also trying to taper out the benzo (Oxascand aka Oxazepam) to only rely on the SSRI. I started at 30-40 mg benzo and I am now at 10-15 mg a day. I need to come off to see the full effect of the SSRI.
       
    11. MindOverMatter

      MindOverMatter Member

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004/05
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown (possibly stress related, and later sound induced)
      @David S, Copper is said to be essential when supplementing with Zinc.

      I use a brand called Floradix for the Magnesium. Only 10 ml a day. Not sure if this is an international brand though. But check out iHerb or the likes for other brands.

      "A little better" is a small step in the right direction. Good luck with the tapering.
       
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    12. David S

      David S Member Benefactor Ambassador

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      10/2013
    13. MindOverMatter

      MindOverMatter Member

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004/05
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown (possibly stress related, and later sound induced)
      @David S, exactly, that's the one. I take it with dinner - never upset my stomach or spiked me.
       
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    14. David S

      David S Member Benefactor Ambassador

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      10/2013
      @Michael Leigh, @MindOverMatter, @Eleanor89:

      Just a short update. Some minor improvements!

      I can use the sound generator with pink noise set at a low level but till very audible from morning to night.

      I almost stopped all benzos. Just a small dose before bedtime.

      The reactive part is slightly better but sill quite sound sensitive.

      I do not use any protection at home or at the office anymore. Only in the city and in the car.

      Tinnitus is still very bothersome but not so much at a panic level anymore. Almost back to work full time for the last few days.

      Planing to use the sound generators for the foreseeable feature. Just need to figure out the optimal volume setting. Will also add nature sound wile sleeping soon.

      Thanks again for all the support!
       
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    15. Wrfortiscue
      Cowabunga

      Wrfortiscue Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Trauma
      Just keep at it. With time it should get even better. I'm in the process of buying in-ear sound generators.
       
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    16. MindOverMatter

      MindOverMatter Member

      Location:
      Norway
      Tinnitus Since:
      2004/05
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Unknown (possibly stress related, and later sound induced)
      That's great news @David S.

      The only way is forward. It just takes time to find what works out best for you. But you seem to be heading in the right direction - small steps.
       
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    17. Michael Leigh

      Michael Leigh Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Brighton, UK
      Tinnitus Since:
      04/1996
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise induced
      That is splendid news @David S. The advice from @Wrfortiscue is excellent, so keep at it. There are many twists and turns along the path to habituation. Be determined and never give up trying.

      Michael
       
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