Idiot Move: Blasted Myself with Soundbar at Best Buy

Discussion in 'Support' started by kingsfan, Dec 1, 2020.

    1. AUTHOR
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      kingsfan
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      Location:
      Southern California
      Tinnitus Since:
      9-17-20 / 10-20-20 / 3-31-21 / 5-23-21
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      turning everything up to 11
      Very interesting. I have a bottle of Cymbalta in my cabinet from before I even had tinnitus. I remember it being a really rough medication, and I didn't make it past the first few days on it due to the side effects. The only SSRI I've tried since tinnitus is Zoloft which, of course, elevated it.

      If you don't mind me asking, which SSRI are you currently taking?
       
    2. Matchbox
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      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      Amitriptyline. It might be helping. It's honestly hard to tell. Seems to stop working after a while.
       
    3. AUTHOR
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      kingsfan
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      kingsfan Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Southern California
      Tinnitus Since:
      9-17-20 / 10-20-20 / 3-31-21 / 5-23-21
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      turning everything up to 11
      Amitriptyline is a tricyclic, isn't it? I think I recall you mentioning to me before that it helped you. Sorry for making you repeat yourself.
       
    4. BuzzyBee
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      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not Sure
      Do you think you are going to?
       
    5. Matchbox
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      Matchbox Member

      Location:
      BC Canada
      Tinnitus Since:
      August 2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      Depends on if Amitriptyline is in fact helping or worsening. I think I'm trading distortions for sheer ringing on it :(
       
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    6. BuzzyBee
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      Tinnitus Since:
      2016
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not Sure
      Yeah, that happens. A long time ago I tried L-Theanine and traded static for a light tone. I didn't bother trying it again, but I've noticed the same thing with Advil or other drugs. The usual tinnitus will just change to something else.
       
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    7. ZFire
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      Tinnitus Since:
      2011 (mild) & 04/2021 (severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxicity (2012) Unknown-likely noise induce (2021)
      Hi @Lane, how’s the experimentation with different dosages coming along?

      I’m looking to increase my vitamin D intake as I feel like I’m not getting enough, so I’m glad I came across this post. I was wondering if I should start at a lower dose (2000 IUs) and then slowly increase the dosage to 5000 IUs or can I just go straight to 5000 IUs?

      Also with regards to the poopy seeds, are you consuming them by itself or as added component to a meal?
       
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    8. Damocles
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      Damocles Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Tinnitus Since:
      2009
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Otitis
      Hey @ZFire, I'm not that delicious @Lane you were asking, but I'll just say that with almost any drug/supplement, I tend to think it's a good idea to taper up rather than just whack yourself with a high dose (unless it's recommended to you personally by your doctor or something).

      Just a thing I've adopted since 2009, because with tinnitus you learn to tread carefully and become more aware of how things are affecting your body.

      Practically every new supplement I introduce, I take a small amount and don't mix it with any other supplement the first few times, then gradually introduce my regular supplements to rule out any contra-indication.

      Having said that, I'd make an exception in the case of Vitamin D. My blood tests showed I was extremely deficient in it 7 years ago, so my doctor prescribed me a month of high strength 4000IU liquid pellets to take daily. So my regular doctor obviously didn't see any issue with making such a massive leap.

      It's one of the safest supplements out there to be quite frank (but not FRANK :banhappy:).

      Only danger is with overdosing which can lead to hypercalcemia.

      Just to make sure that doesn't happen, I'll tell you that the upper limit advised for adults in the UK is 4000IU daily (so what I was taking with the high strength stuff in 2015).

      Admittedly I sometimes venture outside of the RDA guidelines with some supplements like NAC and Turmeric; but never by much.

      Not sure I'd ever feel comfortable taking 30,000IU of VD3 myself to be honest, but to each their own I guess. When it comes to tinnitus, lack of convention is the norm, because there is nothing conventional about or for it. I mean, some people here were experimenting with Trobalt, enough said.
       
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    9. ZFire
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      ZFire Member Benefactor

      Tinnitus Since:
      2011 (mild) & 04/2021 (severe)
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Ototoxicity (2012) Unknown-likely noise induce (2021)
      Thanks (also Frank), the rates of vitamin D deficiency just in the US... it's something like 50% of people on average. I’m pretty sure I belong in that category as I know for a fact that I don’t get enough sun. So I’ve been trying to figure out what the right dosage is for me to get my D levels back on track. I think I’ll start at 2000 IUs and increase up to 4000 IU.
      I think we are all guilty of doing this especially in the earlier phase of tinnitus and hyperacusis. I’ve done it on multiple occasions too with NAC and CoQ 10.
       
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    10. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      I was on Amitriptyline for nearly 25 years and it was fine----slept like a teenager.

      Then I got this huge tinnitus spike (likely from the Moderna COVID-19 booster) in November. I was having trouble sleeping, so I went back on the Amitriptyline.

      Maybe I'm just a loopy Boomer (59), but I feel like after 5 weeks on the Amitriptyline, my tinnitus got louder, more metallic sounding, and hissier. Also more difficult to mask. I figured it was the deal I made with the tinnitus Devil to get some sleep.

      Then a week ago I woke up to my right ear being full and ringing (which it had not, previously), and I'm freaking out.

      So I'm now trying to back off the Amitriptyline. Weird thing is that I was only up to 15 mg, which is a tiny dose.

      I'm starting to think we can't take any TCAs or SSRIs without risking big tinnitus spikes.
       
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      kingsfan
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      Location:
      Southern California
      Tinnitus Since:
      9-17-20 / 10-20-20 / 3-31-21 / 5-23-21
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      turning everything up to 11
      Tricyclics can do that. Anything that increases serotonin has the potential to increase tinnitus. Same happened to me on only 10 mg of Nortriptyline, but it went back down after discontinuing. I was on it for 3 months. Thinking of starting it again actually. Depression is a bitch.
       
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    12. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      It really is a Sophie's Choice, frankly. I need to sleep, and nothing knocks me out like amitriptyline. However, the extra tinnitus in my right ear, the ear fullness, and the louder volume is freaking me out, so I think I just need to get off it.

      It is ironic that the types of medications that can help us with anxiety and depression are exactly the types of medications that spike tinnitus. Such an insidious disease...
       
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    13. Wrfortiscue
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      Tinnitus Since:
      1999
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Trauma
       
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    14. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      Did you taper off of the drug? If so, what was your schedule (how many weeks, and how much, per week)? I am tapering really slowly from Amitriptyline... I actually use a jewelry scale and go down little by little each week. I seem to be very sensitive to these medications...
       
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      kingsfan
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      Location:
      Southern California
      Tinnitus Since:
      9-17-20 / 10-20-20 / 3-31-21 / 5-23-21
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      turning everything up to 11
      I just went from 20 mg down to 10 mg and eventually stopped. I didn't follow any regimen given to me. I was really on too low of a dose to have to be concerned with tapering.
       
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    16. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      Good to know, thanks. May I ask your age? I'm 59. I just did a session with Dr. Bruce Hubbard and he thinks tinnitus is really a factor of age and loud sounds, if you are a musician (as I am... or was, anyway...).
       
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      kingsfan
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      kingsfan Member Benefactor Hall of Fame

      Location:
      Southern California
      Tinnitus Since:
      9-17-20 / 10-20-20 / 3-31-21 / 5-23-21
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      turning everything up to 11
      I'm 37, musician since age 11.
       
    18. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      Cool. I've been playing guitar for 50 years. Probably a big reason for my current issues. I had 58 pretty good years, at least...
       
    19. Marshall

      Marshall Member

      Location:
      ND
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure/virus/noise trauma/cumulative noise damage
      I was never depressed before this. I simply enjoyed existing. But it’s truly made me a more caring and empathetic person. I’ve learned a lot on this journey of suffering.
       
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    20. Marshall

      Marshall Member

      Location:
      ND
      Tinnitus Since:
      12/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Not sure/virus/noise trauma/cumulative noise damage
      I'm 28 and I guess I loved music way too much. I wish I could go back to the past and tell my younger self to turn it down.
       
    21. GeorgeLG
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      GeorgeLG Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Leaf blower after yrs of rock guitar, constr & comp shooting
      I have been a guitar player for 61 years. Add competitive shooting and construction tools and I am surprised that I lasted as long as I did. There is a bunch of stuff I would tell my younger self. Oh wait, I didn't listen the first time around. If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough.

      George
       
    22. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      Right there with you, brother. I grew up in the 60's and 70's, when ear plugs were primitive, at best---hardly anyone wore them. I had a bunch of times getting blasted from loud amps (often my own) before I bought a pair of Norton Sonic II earplugs, which took off like 8 dB.

      I wish we had the kinds of protection then that we have now.... it might have been a whole different deal for me... but it is what it is.
       
    23. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      Same deal, George. I played loud guitar, shot guns, used loud saws and such, and it took until 59 to get the major spike in tinnitus. I'm paying for all that stuff now, but honestly, did anyone really tell us about future hearing loss, back in the day, like they can now? Hearing protection, alone, has become amazing, over the years.

      Younger folks, today, have a great opportunity to avoid the mistakes that we made, years ago in very different times.
       
    24. GeorgeLG
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      GeorgeLG Member

      Tinnitus Since:
      05/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Leaf blower after yrs of rock guitar, constr & comp shooting
      Actually, I don't remember anyone telling me to protect my ears back then. I tell kids now but so far, nobody has listened to me. They are still invincible.

      George
       
    25. Bruce NH USA

      Bruce NH USA Member Benefactor

      Location:
      New Hampshire, United States
      Tinnitus Since:
      1981; intolerable since 11/2021
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music, then ototoxic drug (Paxil)
      Yeah, I think my mom told me to turn it down a few times. My band was so loud that an old lady heard us from miles away and called the cops on us. They said if we could play a Clapton tune they'd let it go, so we did a bar or two of "Cocaine" and we were cool.

      We thought we were so cool because we were so loud. We were idiots, it turns out, and teenage boys haven't evolved any more than we did over the course of 40 years... so I don't even bother to tell these kids to take care of their ears. By the time they are our age, they'll be able to have their hearing regenerated and hardly give it a thought...
       
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