Ketogenic Diet

Has anyone had any noticeable improvement on this diet?

 

There's a user who has had this diet for a while and he said his T has gotten better

 

Hariz you are talking about this thread, right?
https://www.tinnitustalk.com/threads/my-tinnitus-is-fading-4-each-month.11440/

 

Ketosis is great for all sorts of things to improve your health long term. It is a struggle and very tedious to get your body into ketosis though. My doctor recommended this product to me and I am never looking back! Here's a video link too

Pruvit. Does The Product Cause Ketosis?

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I was on strict keto for more then 6 months (sub 20gram carbs per day)
Did not effect my T at all, and actually made me worse overall.

We are all different in chemistry, keto does not work for everyone.
My body works best on a normal diet.
I know other people that got much much worse overall in their health and 1 almost fatal (she had a heart condition that doctors say was aggrivated by the diet (but yeah hard to prove)
I also know people that love the lifestyle. So, yeah 50/50 I would say

It's not that hard to get your body into ketosis, the problem is if you cheat and put your body out of it you might experience things like the famous "keto flu"

There is no fact that keto lowers T. It's just something you need to try if you want.
For some keto diet works in boosting someones overall health, which might help T.
For some it makes you worse and in turn makes T worse.

 

ketosis is just another fad, to make money for the latest fad proponent.
to get into ketosis, you just don't eat for 12 hours. it does zero for tinnitus.
personally, i have been going back to basics. the ancient Indian and Chinese medicines use chick pea sprouts.
there is enormous research now being done on chick pea sprouts, but to prevent neuro degenerative disorders, cancers, diabetes, blood pressure, cholesterol. for my money, i would rather go on a sprouted chick pea diet, which i KNOW is good for your health, and POSSIBLY might benefit your long term tinnitus. i have only been using sprouts for about a month now, and it is too soon to say, but overall, my tinnitus has been pretty much alright.

 

Who all here are trying this diet out?

 

Yes, it seems that when I try to diet too hard, my T spikes. -- I'm staying away from sugar and junk food which helps but going too extreme makes my head buzz even more.

That's me though. It may work for others. -- Unfortunately, T is like an untamed snake that is incredibly hard to figure out..

 

I'm currently trying the fatogenic diet. Eating sauces, meat, candy and always finishing up with a (diet) coke.
However I'm not getting much results. I plan on switching to the Atkins diet soon, that is eating any food I get my hands on except Atkins himself.

 

ive been on the ketogenic diet for the last 4 months. i can't say if it helps or not for t (probably a little), but it definitely has eliminated my moodiness and mood swings. the insulin rise and fall can be an emotional rollercoaster, so i am happy to avoid that - it's just a steady dose of ketones for my brain. having a stable mood allows me to deal with any occassional spikes much better. and the mental acuity (which is partially a result of having a steady emotional state) is quite amazing, i am so much more productive in life. i recommend trying it if you haven't already - at the very least you will see what carbs do to your brain and what they do when you eliminate them from your diet. it seems to differ from person to person- i have a very high functioning friend who is trying the diet and reports no real change at all.

 

I also tried a strict ketogenic diet for a month. Most days my mmol/L were up in the ranges considered for me to be ketogenic. (I confirmed this with strips) I kick started with a 40 hour fast and then kept carbs to less than 50gm per day.

My thinking was that similar to the positive effects it has for epileptics I might be able to reduce the amount of misfiring neurons in my brain.

Unfortunately it had no effect. I verified this by going into quiet rooms to test my T.

 

I can tell the same for me.

 

Been on Keto diet 2 weeks noticable t improvements. Anyone else tried it? Best decision re t so far. Happy once more. Joy to all this season

 

That's a good news!
What's you daily plan like, what do you eat?

 

Alot of red meat and vegetables. Yougurt, eggs. Its really more Atkins than the Keto high fat diet.

 

There are a few threads on keto here. I've also started a threat on keto dishes some time ago.

 

I think it's 'different strokes for different folks'. Ketogenic diet probably works for some. Various supplements (many different ones) seem to have good press from others. What works for one doesn't seem to work for another....tinnitus has so many different aetiologies, it's not surprising. BUT....it's a condition which probably has spontaneous remissions, too, and the long-term outlook is largely favourable due to habituation.

Unfortunately most of the reports/trials of dietary change or supplements/exclusions from the diet seem to have been done in a fashion which would never be accepted by the scientific community. (No control groups, very small numbers, follow up way too short, no pre-trial definition of outcome measures etc). Any reports have to be taken with a degree of scepticism.

No dietary change/supplement/drug seems to have any effect whatever on my tinnitus, BUT if some modification works for you, then it works for you. It's well worthwhile others trying your method(s), but they should try to do so from a 'neutral position', not expecting improvement or deterioration, in order to avoid what for many will be just another disappointment.

As a longstanding and pretty thin vegetarian who feels utterly wretched when ketotic (pre-op when nil-by-mouth etc), I'm not going to go eating animals, anyway, even if eating red meat was shown to dramatically improve tinnitus. But, at least I don't get spikes with alcohol/medication/caffeine/loud noises etc.

Like others, I look forward to a time when more of the scientific community starts to really look into the problem and sorts us out.

 

interesting article http://www.tinnitusjournal.com/articles/hyperinsulinemia-and-tinnitus-a-historical-cohort.pdf

and video :

Does Medication Help Tinnitus...

 

Firstly, I have been a tinnitus sufferer for over 10 years, I live fairly actively and for quite a few years have not lived a clean eating lifestyle.

Several months ago I decided to try the Keto diet to improve my health, I always felt tired, hungry all the time, no ambition, and poor judgement and moody. My tinnitus was at its peak as it was always persistent in my right ear.

After being on Keto for awhile my tinnitus would come and go and eventually it kind of disappeared.

My diet changed substantially to a high fat, low carb, and moderate protein intake.

By low carb I mean 20 carbs per day. A lot changed in my life and ridding the tinnitus was definitely a major moral booster and the biggest gain. I do believe there is a definite link between diet and tinnitus.

The diet looks very restrictive but once you get into it, it is not that bad, just by eating natural foods compared to processed is a huge improvement. Easy to try maybe this will help others with tinnitus.

 

@andee555 great you have found that a keto diet has helped you feel so much better.

About how long did it take for the tinnitus to fade away? Interested as my son has just started on a keto diet and it would be marvellous if it helped his tinnitus.

I note from your profile that your cause of tinnitus is unknown. May I ask if you had any tests to discount any causes?

 

WoW! I struggle keeping under 150 grams.

 

I did it for 2 months (20 grams a day). It’s not a very sustainable diet and no effect on T.

 

How long were you on keto?

I started keto 3 days back and woke up in middle of night and heard tinnitus very loud.

I want to lose weight as I feel I have to. So, started keto and came across that it could help with tinnitus too.

Did you feel tinnitus was loud in 1st week of Keto?

 

Wow! That is encouraging Andee!

My wife and I just started the Keto diet, however, my T is spiking since my body is missing the fast food, pizza, junk food, etc. -- My T always spikes when I get hungry..

I notice that when I eat bad stuff, I don't really notice my T since I am sort of in a constant Zen moment with snacking if you know what I mean..

I was hesitant to do the Keto diet, however, a documentary really opened my eyes as to how cattle are fed, 99% of all food is processed, and people with cancer and other major health ailments see real results within a month of being on Keto. -- Also, I recently knew a couple guys around 50 years old who dropped dead recently from unexpected heart attacks (I just turned 51).

I'm not expecting my T to subside but if it improves by half as what you say, I'll be a very happy camper and a much healthier one as well.

It's not a diet for the faint of heart. - You have to really commit to it. - However, it's supposed to be a life changer..

Thanks for your insight Andee. -- I will update everyone in a couple weeks...

 

Be careful if you are on benzo withdrawal and have tinnitus due to benzos
You must have plenty carbohydrates & water in your body because if you don't have the chances to get permanent neurological problems are much greater.

Carbohydrates & water protect from glutamate excitotoxicity.

 

Hello again Andee,

Was your tinnitus noise-induced?

 

I never heard of this. I had to look it up. This diet is low carb/high fat? I was surprised about the high fat part. My diet is already fairly low in carbs. I don't know if I want to intentionally add fat to my diet. Also surprising that most fruits should be avoided.

 

@SugarMagnolia Good unsaturated fats...doesn't have to be saturated fats.
Fruits are avoided because of the sugars they contain. The aim is to burn fat as the source of energy instead of glucose.

Last year I cut down on carbs and sugar almost entirely. I don't think it was to the ketogenic level, but it made no difference to my T either way. I still eat a lot less sugar and junk carbs, but not to the extreme.