Mindfulness Is Key to Tinnitus Relief Research Reveals

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    1. toolman

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    2. Contrast
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      Another habituation shilling thread, we want bio-medical research so there is a cure for tinnitus, noise induced pain and muffled hearing - not this crap.
       
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    3. Luman
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      That's a very encouraging report, particularly for those who are bothered greatly by tinnitus and need help until science finds a way to treat it.
       
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    4. Helheim
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      "Just accept it loooooool." No thanks, doesn't help.
       
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    5. GlennS

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      So what do you do to get through the day? I bet we all rely on mindfulness (becoming engaged with a task) without really being aware that that's what we're doing.
       
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    6. Helheim
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      I try not to think about, fail, try to function anyway in any diminished capacity that I can, try to not kill myself before I see if Neuromod works, if it doesn't, I'll just do it. I wasted so much money on a mindfulness course, ugh. After it reaches a certain volume, there's no mindfulness, no "habituation", just suffering. It's basically "get used to it", reworded and it needs to stop being peddled as a treatment.
       
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    7. kelpiemsp
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      The reason people bash mindfulness is because they are ignorant. Science has proved time and time again mindfulness can induce changes in the brain in every bit the same way any medication can... only permanently.

      Just because you can’t do it... doesn’t mean someone else can’t.
       
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    8. Gman
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      Mindfulness is good for everyone, whether they suffer from tinnitus or not.
      Having said that tinnitus needs a real treatment/cure and, luckily, there's real research and development being done.
      Can't wait to try one of those bimodal neuromodulation devices...
       
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    9. Contrast
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      This is a really bad way to start of tinnitus week.
       
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    10. threefirefour
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      What an abysmal waste of resources that could have gone to actual serious tinnitus research. What pisses me off is the fact that this is being passed off as "revolutionary" except it's the same crap we've been doing for the past forever. Literally it contributes absolutely no new insight to even habituation research (which is a damn low bar). It's a shame the tinnitus community will probably eat it up, but any other medical community would either ignore it or attack it. This is now what we should want. Raise the bar a bit.
       
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    11. Helheim
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      Yeah this is the part that really got me. I'm guessing a lot of people don't know/understand/believe that actual progress has been made so they're still wasting money and effort on this crap.
       
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    12. threefirefour
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      When we get a treatment soon, none of this research will be useful, because treatment based approaches will come to completely dominate the tinnitus market. No matter what this is just wasted money.
       
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    13. Contrast
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      Does mindfullness regenerate cochlear synapses, improve hearing and reduce tinnitus?
       
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    14. threefirefour
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      Uh oh, Kaos developed tinnitus. What can we do to help her out?
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    15. Contrast
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      Good Cartoons, and good tinnitus cures I hope.

      They have their underwater cities, but no HL cure. WTF Japan?
       
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    17. Bill Bauer
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      What if we don't, and never do?
       
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    18. threefirefour
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      That's extremely unlikely because pretty much every medical condition will eventually be cured. It's a matter of time. However tinnitus has so much research going for it, and has for a while. Now we've hit the stage where we're seeing results. I think the question now isn't "will neuromod work?", but "how well will it work?".
       
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    19. Bill Bauer
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      What are you basing this on besides wishful thinking?

      Like I said before, IMO whatever doesn't get cured within the next 15 years or so, will never be cured. I doubt a lot will be cured in the next 15 years.
      I am sure it will work for a fraction of the people. This fraction might be 5% (while it makes 3% of the people who try it much worse).
      T also has to do with the human brain - the most complex object in the known universe.
       
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    20. threefirefour
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      Why do you think that anything not cured in 15 years will never be cured? Aside from unwishful thinking.

      The tested "fraction" with papers we have suggest it's anywhere from 60% to 80% at the very least. Even the very conservative papers that used primative Neuromod had around 55%.

      The Human brain is very complex, but contrary to what you hear on tinnitus forums, tinnitus isn't exactly a mystery. Yes we know how it works pretty well. There's just hasn't been a treatment yet so people figure it's the wild west, but it's not.
       
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    21. Bill Bauer
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      Read any newspaper printed after 2015, and you will have your answer. We don't live in a free country, so I can't elaborate.
      The only way to prove the above would be to cure tinnitus. As long as there is no cure, all we can say is that we think we might know something about how it works, but for all we know the true tinnitus mechanism might be completely different.
       
    22. threefirefour
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      Well we can't cure it. We know how but we don't have the technology. The best we can do is manipulate the tinnitus mechanism to eliminate tinnitus temporarily. Which we can reliably do in a medical environment.
       
    23. Contrast
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      WHO'S WE? Humanity?

      You're not part of University of Michigan, or Frequency Therapeutics or Neuromod, you're just a sperg on a tinnitus forum.
       
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    24. Bill Bauer
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      You can also ponder what has been happening to your standard of living and why, and what you think will be happening to it in the future.
       
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    25. threefirefour
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      I wish I could but everytime I do apparently it's "desecrating a corpse".
      Susan Shore, Minnesota team, and Neuromod can though.
       
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    26. PDodge
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      Humans??
       
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    27. Agrajag364

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      Pahaha no.
       
    28. threefirefour
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      The chances are extremely heavily in favor of us being able to have total control of the human genome so... Yeah.
       
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    29. Agrajag364

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      Even total control of the proteome wouldn’t do it.
       
    30. Marko Nakovski
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      I think that habituation can be useful mostly in mild tinnitus cases, or even in moderate tinnitus cases sometimes.

      But when tinnitus level becomes severe I think it's impossible to ignore it and get used to it.
       
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