Now I Also Have Visual Snow, After Images, Blurry Vision, Worsening Eyesight in the Dark...

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    1. Laurie1961
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      Me too.
       
    2. aot
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      Hey, @Orions Pain. VSI is releasing a free treatment on the 7th. According to an email I received when I signed up, 47% percent of participants in their trial experienced some form of relief in their visual symptoms. Hopefully this can help you, even if only a little.

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    3. TheDanishGirl
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      Interesting! What kind of treatment is this??
       
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      Some kind of video treatment, I guess. You're supposed to watch it for 30 or so minutes a day, preferably on a monitor or laptop. I'm not really sure how it works.

      And it's free! So even if it has no effect, at least the only thing wasted is your time.
       
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    5. FGG
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      Thank you for alerting me to this! I miss seeing stars so much (mine is only that terrible at night). Just sent an email. I wonder if we can start a treatment thread about this.
       
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      I'm happy they're working on finding treatment/cure for VS! Perhaps in doing so they'll be able to unlock the mystery of tinnitus as well, at least the brain aspect of it

      Thank you for sharing!
       
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    7. Nothisispatrick

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      Like everyday go get treatment? Or...? Is this all they’re going to do or are they going to come out with more? Just interested to know.
       
    8. TheDanishGirl
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      Oh, I see.

      Visual Snow cure/reflief


      I already know of something similar. like watching the above video, for a little while and then looking away, makes the visual snow gone for a very short while... at least for me it does... Now, my visual snow is really not a problem in itself (the floaters, afterimages ect. is) It's very mild, but maybe somebody else with worse visual snow may find this just a tad useful.

      Now I don't know if the effect will last longer, the longer you watch the video. I only watched it like 20-30 seconds, just to see if it had any effect on visual snow at all.
       
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    9. aot
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      Similar to that, I guess. But I think it's supposed to be a series of animations, as opposed to just TV static.
       
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    10. FGG
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      What size screen did you use? This definitely does not work for me on mobile.
       
    11. TheDanishGirl
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      Visual snow really is tinnitus in the eyes. They are so similar, just different senses really. I hope that visual snow research will also be fruitful for us tinnitus and hyperacusis sufferers. I personally believe it will.
       
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    12. TheDanishGirl
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      A 17 inch laptop screen. I would expect it doesn't work on mobile... way too small a screen.
       
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    13. TheDanishGirl
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      Sure does sound intriguing :)
       
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    14. aot
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      Not sure about hyperacusis, but I'm also fairly certain that anything that helps tinnitus will also help VS. I didn't have VS until my tinnitus worsened, and tinnitus is an official symptom of VS.

      @Hazel said a while ago that the Visual Snow Initiative is going to be interviewed on the Tinnitus Talk Podcast at some point.
       
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    15. FGG
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      So apparently this is an actual trial. They said they reported no worsenings when I asked so I signed up for an actual 21 day trial. This does make me a bit nervous though. I at least hope it doesn't make anything worse.
       
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      @aot @TheDanishGirl would you say your visual snow moves at the same speed as your tinnitus? I hope that makes sense. My main tone isn’t a pure eeeee sound but like sand waterfall hissing sort of sounds that changes pitches but not volume every few seconds and when I look at a blank wall it’s almost as if the snow is moving to match the speed of the tinnitus - or matches the vibration of it.
       
    17. aot
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      I felt the same, and also emailed them about it. Here's a part of the response:

      "Hi John, thank you for writing to the VSI and for your kind words. You are correct, the VIP is a potential resource and not a magic bullet for VSS. In non-scientific trials, we achieved enough success that we decided to make it available worldwide. For some it did nothing. For others, it was life changing. Nobody got worse.

      We understand and appreciate your concern. Anxiety is the proverbial rock and hard place. VSS exacerbates anxiety. Anxiety exacerbates VSS. The idea of the VIP is to reduce one or more symptoms and in doing so, it reduces the anxiety and stress. The effect can then be across the board improvements, not simply because of the symptoms being reduced, but also because of the positive emotional response which reduces anxiety and depression related to VSS. Our suggestion is to wait and hear what others have to say about their experience with the VIP. I am sure there will be positives and negatives on social media. Then you can make your own decision."


      I expect this to be a temporary solution. If this helps your VS, it'll likely go back to baseline after awhile until you do it again, or at least that's how I'm interpreting it. So if it makes things worse, I think that'd also be temporary.

      It's important to manage our expectations here: This is a treatment for a very rare, poorly understood condition, with a less than 50% success rate. Hell, it's free. It probably won't cure anybody. It's probably not enough for total relief, but I think it's very existence is still a good sign. Five steps backwards and then four steps back is still a step forward.

      Granted, that's easy for me to say because my VS is hardly an issue at all unless I'm in dark interiors.

      I hope you get to see your stars again.
       
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    18. aot
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      It's hard to say. I don't see the static very much unless I'm in a dark rooms. Sometimes I see, shadows? Like the shadows of blinds? It's hard to explain. Try to film a tv screen with your phone, it kinda looks like that. It doesn't seem to match my tinnitus, though.
       
    19. FGG
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      Thanks. I think I'm going to wait, too. As bad as it is at night or in the dark, it's super mild in the day and non intrusive. I wouldn't want to risk that getting worse before I read some reports.
       
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      Oh gotcha, yeah mine during the day looks less like static, but more like there's a mild drizzle, like tiny tiny raindrops when it's misty outside. Especially on a flat surface. I have fairly bad after imaging, especially with things like blinds open, or heavy patterns

      I'm not sure what you mean by shadows? I did try to do what you suggested and didn't notice anything!
       
    21. TheDanishGirl
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      I haven't noticed any behavioral pattern between the two, in my case.
       
    22. aot
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably noise induced, worsened due to noise exposur + flu
      I guess it only works with older TVs and/or phones.

      It's like when it's sunny out, and the blinds in windows cast their shadows over something. But it's very faint and I can easily tune it out. I only see the static in dark interiors, and it's so overwhelming that I'm practically blind. Flip on a lightswitch, and it all comes back into focus.

      I don't have any problems with seeing outside at night, though.
       
    23. aot
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      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Probably noise induced, worsened due to noise exposur + flu
      Has anyone had their VS get temporarily worse, and then go back to baseline?

      I work up at 5:00 this morning and my VS was crazy. A bunch of crazy shapes were everywhere, trailing was insane, and of course my tinnitus was louder.
      I made to the bathroom and my vision was thumping in correlation with my heartbeat. I splashed some water on my face and calmed myself down. The visual symptoms went back to baseline, and the tinnitus went down after about 15 minutes.

      I've been super stressed lately. Could that be the cause?
       
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    24. Novachrono

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      02/2022
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      How is the visual snow?
       
    25. Novachrono

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      Has your visual snow gotten better?
       
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