Prednisone Improved My Tinnitus and Hearing 14 Months After Tinnitus Onset

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by Martinf, May 27, 2021.

    1. Martinf
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      Tinnitus Since:
      02/2020
      Cause of Tinnitus:
      Loud music
      Hello all. I've been suffering from high-pitched ringing in ears for 14 months now. During the first months after the onset, I tried a lot of stuff; Ginkgo biloba, Magnesium, vitamins, NAC, Curcumin, diet, sports, meditation etc. I was always monitoring my hearing loss after each treatment, nothing helped my hearing loss nor reduced the ringing.

      Last week I had an acoustic trauma incident so I decided to get on Prednisone. A few hours after my first 40 mg dose the ringing decreased significantly and my hearing seemed to be brighter and sharper. On the second day my tinnitus got so low that I have to focus to hear it in a silent room (before my tinnitus was noticeable even in heavy traffic). I had a new hearing test and it showed a 10 dB improvement in high frequencies. My hearing at 6 kHz is now 20 dB (before it was 30 dB) and 30 dB at 8 kHz (before it was 40 dB).

      How can the Prednisone be effective after all this time? Does this mean that there's still an inflammation in my body that is interfering with my hearing?

      I really hope this improvement is not just temporary. I already feel like a new person.

      Thoughts?
       
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    2. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

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      Wim Hof Breathing Exercises
      I’m glad you are getting relief. I don’t think anyone still fully understands the mechanics behind how Prednisone works beyond reducing inflammation, but I bet there is more to the story than that. From all the accounts I’ve read, it seems like these kinds of improvements are temporary but I wouldn’t rule out some permanent improvements. I posted a little while ago about someone who did a few courses and a longer course of steroids and ultimately cured his tinnitus so who knows what is possible.

      The one thing I have seen on a few occasions now is that once people have had success with Prednisone temporarily (for hearing loss and tinnitus), there is a good chance something like LDN will work for them. I would imagine the anti-inflammatory properties of LDN mimic those of Prednisone while allowing you to stay on it indefinitely.

      I wish you good luck. Keep us posted.
       
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      Martinf
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      Loud music
      Thank you, can you post link to the post here? I couldn't find it.
       
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      Update: second day of tapering Prednisone. Tinnitus is now back unfortunately.
       
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    5. Lukee

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      Sorry to hear this. How long are you on Prednisone for? I have heard for many people once it comes back, it’s much quieter so hopefully this is the case for you. Also, multiple treatments for some people seem to have a cumulative effect. Maybe we are able to heal once the inflammation subsides. I guess the good news could be that somehow reducing inflammation indefinitely could help you.
       
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      Martinf Member

      Tinnitus Since:
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      Loud music
      Can someone explain to me what's going on? When I was on Prednisone, the tinnitus almost vanished to 0 and my hearing got much better. Now it is back to what it was before. If Prednisone can restore my hearing for a few days after 14 months on tinnitus onset, I'm sure something else can too!

      I have actual measurements of my hearing during Prednisone. The audiologist said that my hearing is good and that my hearing loss is very mild and that it won't get worse after I'm done with the Prednisone, but they were wrong, the improvements went away right after I tapered off!
       
    7. Lukee

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      Fasting, LDN and AIP diet are things that can reduce inflammation. Give it a try.
       
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    8. kingsfan
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      turning everything up to 11
      Doesn't Prednisone also act on Serotonin, which can also affect tinnitus?
       
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    9. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

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      Yes, it can. Good call. At that point SSRIs or psychedelics could affect the tinnitus as well.
       
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    10. Exit

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      Have many people here tried old tricyclical ADs and anti-seizure drugs? That’s the 2 things I haven’t tried that I might have to.
       
    11. Matchbox
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      Do you have a source for this? I've never heard of it.
       
    12. Lukee

      Lukee Member Podcast Patron Benefactor Ambassador

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      Hey @Matchbox, I don’t know if it’s written in stone anywhere but there is research that corticosteroids lower serotonin. Physicians that commonly prescribe steroids are aware of this and are likely to consider interaction with other serotonin altering drugs.
       
    13. Matchbox
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      Noise Induced, Prednisone (drones), Barotrauma (distortions)
      So doesn't that imply that something that helps deplete excess serotonin might ACTUALLY help and be what's really happening?
       
    14. Lukee

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      It doesn’t imply that because we can’t be sure if it is exclusive. It may be the mechanism but I highly doubt it’s that simple. I think it’s a combination of things and most likely, more than anything, neuro inflammation. These things are all linked and that’s why SSRIs can help as well. It’s not just the action of serotonin but also anti inflammatory action and now, more and more research points to neuro inflammation.
       
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    15. kingsfan
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      I've been taking Prednisone for the past week (I know I have said it has made me worse in the past, but there have always been extra variables so I'm not sure if it really was the Prednisone ).

      What is interesting is that my tinnitus is more well-behaved today on 35 mg vs the 50 mg I had been taking all week.
       
    16. Lukee

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      That’s strange. Usually it’s the other way around.
       
    17. Wrfortiscue
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      Hey man, how are you doing? Do you still hear the dental drill?

      I have the faint high pitched squeaking/drill that seems to be reacting to noise. I slept last night without masking/no fan, and it was the best sleep I’ve had since the spike from the COVID-19 vaccine. Only had the minor squeak I could barely hear.
       
    18. kingsfan
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      turning everything up to 11
      I've been getting by. I've been on Prednisone since the Venice Beach incidents, so everything hasn't been quite as intrusive. But it will all come back once I'm off of it in a couple of days. The dental drill thing was killing me though. I was doing alright with my tinnitus until that came about. I absolutely cannot sleep without cricket noises. Not with this new sound. Before I could with or without, but usually opted with because it was just more comfortable.
       
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    19. Wrfortiscue
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      That sucks. I hope you find relief. I was getting better, but now worse again. Just trying to ignore it lol.

      Going to a water park right now because why not.
       
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